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Finley Parsons

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By Finley Parsons, in General Football and Sport

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I for one am very proud of our city's sporting heritage, it's something that we should celebrate more than we do and Leicester Tigers have contributed to that immensely. The pettiness from sections of both sets of supporters bothers me. I support all of Leicester's sports teams, but it just so happens that I have more of an interest in football and rugby than I do in basketball, hockey, speedway etc. It would be great for the city if all of our teams were at the top challenging for trophies. 

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On 23/04/2020 at 11:37, BenTheFox said:

I for one am very proud of our city's sporting heritage, it's something that we should celebrate more than we do and Leicester Tigers have contributed to that immensely. The pettiness from sections of both sets of supporters bothers me. I support all of Leicester's sports teams, but it just so happens that I have more of an interest in football and rugby than I do in basketball, hockey, speedway etc. It would be great for the city if all of our teams were at the top challenging for trophies. 


Amen mate.

 

Leicester having a decent football is all well and good but being a dominant sports city offers so much more. If your teams are doing well domestically it offers the opportunity for more local jobs and employment, more folks coming to the city and putting money into the local economy, if more people are looking to get into the city in game day or encourages improvements to transport infrastructure.
 

If your teams are regularly competing in European or International competition, then it brings eyes from all over the world to the local area, you have international fans coming in and that brings with it more opportunities.

 

Leicester is a provincial city, it’s important for logistics due to location but otherwise it has no way to compete with the likes of London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool and Bristol. Sports however is one of the few platforms places like Leicester can overachieve and gain a little Continental if not International prestige. 
 

I understand that Tigers fans can be pillocks and be every bootcuts-and-loafers, pint-of-bitter, sneer-at-puffballers rugby archetype rolled into one at times, but ultimately as passive I am about rugby outside international events, I’ll always watch a Tigers game if it’s on and I’ll always hope they win as much as they can. 
 

I’ve honestly always wanted to see a Leicester Sports Co-Operative for all the clubs to support each other and pool resources. I don’t mean Top funding every sports organisation in County bounds, but pooling business, marketing, merchandise expertise, etc., a disaster fund, something to show a united front. For all pundits blather on about ’Geordies loving their football’ and Yorkshireman & Lancastrians being all about their cricket, Leicester have so many sports teams competing at elite level (LCCC have time to catch up) that you wouldn’t otherwise see outside of a major UK city

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Amen mate.

 

Leicester having a decent football is all well and good but being a dominant sports city offers so much more. If your teams are doing well domestically it offers the opportunity for more local jobs and employment, more folks coming to the city and putting money into the local economy, if more people are looking to get into the city in game day or encourages improvements to transport infrastructure.
 

If your teams are regularly competing in European or International competition, then it brings eyes from all over the world to the local area, you have international fans coming in and that brings with it more opportunities.

 

Leicester is a provincial city, it’s important for logistics due to location but otherwise it has no way to compete with the likes of London, Birmingham, Manchester, Liverpool and Bristol. Sports however is one of the few platforms places like Leicester can overachieve and gain a little Continental if not International prestige. 
 

I understand that Tigers fans can be pillocks and be every bootcuts-and-loafers, pint-of-bitter, sneer-at-puffballers rugby archetype rolled into one at times, but ultimately as passive I am about rugby outside international events, I’ll always watch a Tigers game if it’s on and I’ll always hope they win as much as they can. 
 

I’ve honestly always wanted to see a Leicester Sports Co-Operative for all the clubs to support each other and pool resources. I don’t mean Top funding every sports organisation in County bounds, but pooling business, marketing, merchandise expertise, etc., a disaster fund, something to show a united front. For all pundits blather on about ’Geordies loving their football’ and Yorkshireman & Lancastrians being all about their cricket, Leicester have so many sports teams competing at elite level (LCCC have time to catch up) that you wouldn’t otherwise see outside of a major UK city

Let's not forget the Leicester Riders Basketball Club arguably our most successful sporting club. Not that i've seen them play since they left Granby Halls.

 

or perhaps it's the Ladies Hockey Club

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Leicester City Hockey Club is a field hockey club based in Leicester, England. The ladies side has produced a number of international players and is recognised as one of the most successful clubs in England having won six league titles. The ladies team was established in 1894, whilst the men's team was established in 1885.[1]

 

Honours[edit]

Women's England Hockey League

Winners: 1993–94, 2000–01, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2006–07, 2011–12: 6

Women's National Cup

Winners: 1992–93, 2004–05, 2007–08, 2009–10: 4

Women's Super Cup

Winners: 2005–06

EuroHockey Club Champions Trophy

Winners: 2014

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Let's not forget the Leicester Riders Basketball Club arguably our most successful sporting club. Not that i've seen them play since they left Granby Halls.

 

or perhaps it's the Ladies Hockey Club

via Wiki

Leicester City Hockey Club is a field hockey club based in Leicester, England. The ladies side has produced a number of international players and is recognised as one of the most successful clubs in England having won six league titles. The ladies team was established in 1894, whilst the men's team was established in 1885.[1]

 

Honours[edit]

Women's England Hockey League

Winners: 1993–94, 2000–01, 2004–05, 2005–06, 2006–07, 2011–12: 6

Women's National Cup

Winners: 1992–93, 2004–05, 2007–08, 2009–10: 4

Women's Super Cup

Winners: 2005–06

EuroHockey Club Champions Trophy

Winners: 2014


I was going to mention Riders by name, just broke in to Europe as well. A lot smaller but Leicester Falcons who play out of the old Hinckley United stadium are one of the better Gridiron teams outside London as well. These sports are growing in the UK as well so puts us in good stead. 
 

It’s always been a bit contentious in regards to ‘sport’ but esports has picked up massive grounds in under 30s and it was clever to repurpose the Haymarket Theatre for that, I think I heard that the secondary smaller stadium in the supposed Filbert Way renovation would be used to host it as well. Never been my thing but seems like a great idea to capitalise on that, could inject some money into the City.

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Premiership Rugby: Titles should be stripped for future salary breaches, says review
By Laura Scott & Chris Jones

BBC Sport

13 minutes agoFrom the sectionRugby Union

2019 Premiership champions Saracens were docked 35 points and fined £5.3m for breaching the salary cap in each of the past three seasons
Premiership clubs who breach the salary cap in future should be stripped of titles and face suspensions, according to a damning review of the rules.

Other recommendations, in what would be a radical overhaul of the salary cap regime, include "stronger investigatory powers" and making Premiership Rugby, club executives, players and agents more accountable.

The review, undertaken by former government minister Lord Myners on behalf on Premiership Rugby, came after reigning champions Saracens breached the salary cap in each of the past three seasons.

Premiership Rugby: Grounds being audited for rugby union's restart
The London club were docked 35 points and fined £5.3m for the breaches and then automatically relegated after failing to prove the club would comply this season.

Yet there was no power for Premiership Rugby to remove the titles the club had won when they were operating outside of the salary cap.

In a 55-page review, published today, Lord Myners wrote: "It is important that my recommendations should be viewed as a package of measures which, if taken together, will go a long way to restoring the integrity of the regulations.

"They should not be viewed as a menu of options from which to pick and choose."

In addition to the proposed strengthening of sanctions, he said he has "sympathy" with clubs who said they wanted to end the current system of having two marquee players, whose salaries do not fall within the cap.

"There are some existing areas of the regulations that are obviously not widely supported. Quite a few clubs expressed a desire to end the marquee player system on the grounds that it is inflationary, over complex and unnecessary. I have a great deal of sympathy with this position."

He did not propose seeking an "alternative mechanism" to the salary cap, having found that it will "continue to achieve its objectives" if applied robustly.

Lord Myners was not tasked with commenting on the level of the cap.

A series of additional measures were also considered as part of the review, including disciplinary hearings being heard in public, the publication of player salaries and further restrictions on salaries and image rights payments.

However, Lord Myners said he had been convinced by clubs that "these more draconian measures are not necessary".

He said he would have "no hesitation" in recommending them "if future violations continue to the detriment of the economics and reputation of PRL and the game more broadly".

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52661940

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I'll admit I don't follow too closely but I was of the impression that the Tigers have declined because other clubs are paying higher wages. Partly because of the expense of the ground improvements and partly because other teams have broken the wages cap. Not sure it's fair to blame the board if that's the case.

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On 15/05/2020 at 11:28, Webbo said:

I'll admit I don't follow too closely but I was of the impression that the Tigers have declined because other clubs are paying higher wages. Partly because of the expense of the ground improvements and partly because other teams have broken the wages cap. Not sure it's fair to blame the board if that's the case.

 

It's the board mate. They're wildly unpopular and hugely stuck in the past. There's actually an amazing amount of parallels between Tigers and United at the moment. 

 

You know how United keep pissing money away on shit players, chucking money at average ability with high reputation and making silly managerial appointments that are mostly sentimental to try and appease the fans?

 

Yeah that's Tigers. The second most succesful team in the league are Exeter and they've been "doing a Leicester City" for several straight seasons. Good coach, sensible player recruitment, well organised, well run, round pegs in round holes. Just a really solid well run club. 

 

There's an example there for Tigers to learn from but they just keep barging on with what they think is the "Tigers way" with no real success. 

 

It's a bit of a mess. 

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Veainu will be a huge heart breaker for Tigers fans, massively popular and probably the best bit of quality in the squad. 

 

Manu is meh. Frees them up some wage budget for someone that can actually play more than twice a year. 

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2 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

Can see relegation next season

I'm not so sure Borthwick was a highly sought after coach, so was the fitness & conditioning coach. They should be able to coach the players well, also the salary cap will affect other teams too so its to early to say who will be relegated.

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Some cracking ideas in here to generate revenue https://forum.leicestertigers.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=46583&start=15

 

Including a £5 per month inside access TV show that 20,000 people will definitely sign up to, a Last Dance documentary style series and the doozy, a documentary about the Tigers that could make them money whilst using student slave labour to produce it so they get a degree at the end. :blink:

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3 hours ago, RonnieTodger said:

Can see relegation next season

 

I'd wait and see how everyone else is hurt by this to be honest. 

 

You don't even know every club will still exist come time to start the next season. 

 

Rugby is going to be hit like grass roots / lower league football is, only worse really given you can't really play social distanced rugby. 

 

They've already started talking about ring fencing etc again.

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Seems like Jordan Taufua will be the next name to be leaving. He's a bigger loss than Manu or Veianu imho. Tigers have been desperate for decent flanker for a couple of years and this guy is world class. 

 

Pretty mental that a team that was already bottom (technically) have now lost Jonny May, Veianu, Manu and probs Taufua. Borthwick has got a job and a half on here.

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Found this amazing clip by accident. What a try - what a kit!

 

 

Those were the days.

 

Dusty Hare 

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It's the board mate. They're wildly unpopular and hugely stuck in the past. There's actually an amazing amount of parallels between Tigers and United at the moment. 

 

You know how United keep pissing money away on shit players, chucking money at average ability with high reputation and making silly managerial appointments that are mostly sentimental to try and appease the fans?

 

Yeah that's Tigers. The second most succesful team in the league are Exeter and they've been "doing a Leicester City" for several straight seasons. Good coach, sensible player recruitment, well organised, well run, round pegs in round holes. Just a really solid well run club. 

 

There's an example there for Tigers to learn from but they just keep barging on with what they think is the "Tigers way" with no real success. 

 

It's a bit of a mess. 

Leicester Tigers use to  find high Quality Local regional talent,then Cherry Pick National And Flirt with international talent...

Players & Coaches, Wanted to have Leicester Tigers on a Long contract & Short CV...

In somewhat we became boring,only having either Bath,or Wasps has our spoilers,

then Northampton,The old traditional Mosely Abs Sale being irritants, but damn Good ones....

Saracens had  built in the S.African connections,but then things became fishy After 2-3 years Profi Rugby....I

The Great Wasps & Bath came & went,but Leicester since their founding, stayed strong,stabile,and even in the Amateur Days were ran

Mentally-proffesionally.I

Exeter with all due credit,seemed to have based their Club stratagy on ours but still took themselves on another path...:appl:

 

I Don t know about behind the scenes in the Last 15 years,but they never forgot old players or faces,and encouraged  Youngsters

from regional Junior clubs, also  from within. They had the best National Club  training on Thursdays,when that all came together.

I personally owe them,my Short Sporting prowess & career,to their Set up,scouts,coaches, and ex-players(when they were active)

Interfacing also with Leicester City players/coaches...

Unknown to some,Tigers & Foxes, players Plus some other Leicester  sportsman,socialised together,& well aquainted,

often encouraging each other,in downtimes.

The organisation of Leicester Tigers Club ,outside & from within the brand & soul..make no mistake was second to none....!

 

G.Murphys Promotion to coach would have always been the Natural best choice,

but looking now from the outside in, he must have been left standing in the cold,from all Fazits of Club organisation.

The Club failed,!!!most likely also with Cotteril in the Latter years...

 

I Never thought this possible,its hard to fathom,but no joking,this was the best ran & organised Club in Sporting history,

even when taking the off form years  into account...

To start choking like we are, some group or some individual,have ignored the past club ethos,

it seems arrogant Flybys have brushed through our Great corridors then modernised us towards ruin.....

Or the modern UK peep-squeak ASBO Business method of Running then ruining a business, has taken then blown 90+Years

of success, solid ,stable, highly respected tradition  towards an abyss of incompetent infamy of a degenerated  "Normal exsistence".

or worse still permanent history...!!!..:nono:  

 

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