4everfox Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 2 hours ago, Fox92 said: Oh great. One example. For every good there's bad. Cambiasso, Ferdinand great. Curtis, Howey not great. The difference being that Curtis and Howey were just crap in general whereas Ferdinand and Cambiasso were once esteemed footballers on a global scale. Not exactly the greatest example to use as a counter argument as I would say Sagna is more of a Cambiasso then a Curtis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Eaton Fox Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 Why don't we just invite him to train with us for a week or two. Check him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MattP Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 1 hour ago, ScouseFox said: this has gotta be a new FT allow, judging a potential new signing on a different player who's played like twice for a different club. what the hell does zabaleta giving away a penalty for west ham have to do with us filling out our squad with an experienced pro for free? deary me. It was an example of a team buying an ageing player up for one last contract, it's perfect. From the side club and same position as well. The fact Man City shipped out almost all their defence should tel us something even without his age and wage he would demand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 1 minute ago, MattP said: It was an example of a team buying an ageing player up for one last contract, it's perfect. From the side club and same position as well. The fact Man City shipped out almost all their defence should tel us something even without his age and wage he would demand. They did spend 50mill on John Stones though so their judgement might not be the best barometer of how good a defender is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DelBoy73 Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 Highly experienced right back who delivered almost always solid quality seasons, on a free contrat ? Even at 36 year old it would be a no-brainer imho, bring the fook him in !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossman Blessed It Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 2 hours ago, DelBoy73 said: Highly experienced right back who delivered almost always solid quality seasons, on a free contrat ? Even at 36 year old it would be a no-brainer imho, bring the fook him in !!! He's 34 - but I agree completely. Problem at City was that Pep wanted him to involve himself in their attacks regularly, which he probably didn't have in the tank. We've got used to a system with a very disciplined right back, so I'm sure he could do a good job for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc_star Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 13 minutes ago, Bossman Blessed It said: He's 34 - but I agree completely. Problem at City was that Pep wanted him to involve himself in their attacks regularly, which he probably didn't have in the tank. We've got used to a system with a very disciplined right back, so I'm sure he could do a good job for us. I'm not sure he's disciplined Our issue is that our RB doesn't join in attacks or support the RW going forward, if Sagna is incapable of that, then he'll add nothing beyond yet another comparitively expensive squad player blocking the way for our dev squad players to break through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vindaloo FOX Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 Sagna will go abroad i feel, can see him ending up in Turkey . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanity Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 20 hours ago, HighPeakFox said: Is ESPN relatively reliable as a source? Forgive me asking, I'm rather scathing of all media reporting now. Yes, they have real journalists working there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vanity Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 I'd definitely sign him. It would not only fill an obvious need, but it would show how serious we are about pushing for top-6 and Europe. I understand why people want someone younger, but we aren't finding anyone younger who is better, or who has the potential to be better this season. Not with the transfer window closed, at any rate. Beggars can't be choosers, and besides, it would be an unexpected coup to pull a player Shakey could trust from day 1 out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotch Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 People who are comparing this to Zabaleta are forgetting one major difference in the two... The Zaba was signed as a starting RB. The go to guy. Plan A. Sagna would be back up. Covering our bases. A "just in case". They are two completely different situations. It really comes down to this... Would you rather Amartey or Sagna at RB? Give me the experienced, former PL winning right back and french international every day of the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buzzell Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 Would be a great signing. He's better than Simpson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 8 hours ago, Fox92 said: Oh great. One example. For every good there's bad. Cambiasso, Ferdinand great. Curtis, Howey not great. Cambiasso came to us having played at the top - like Sagna, at the age of 34. Ferdinand was 37 when he came to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 I think it would be a shrewd signing as cover for a season or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4everfox Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 41 minutes ago, buzzer_b said: Would be a great signing. He's better than Simpson. I don't think he is better than Simpson currently. Simpson is an undervalued and underappreciated player, and I've actually got a bit of a soft spot for the bloke because I was amongst the biggest critics of him signing but he has managed to swerve my opinion about him to the point where I believe he has been unlucky not to get an England call up during his tenure with the club. He proved me wrong and I respect that. Sagna would be good cover though in my opinion, so for that reason I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajthefox Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 I understand why people want to avoid this kind of signing, but aside from the money we would spend on his wages I don't really see too much of a downside. He wouldn't automatically be first choice but there would be the opportunity for him to start games if he looked the better option in training. I'd rather we look long term and try and develop a youngster but I don't think we can really complain that much having Sagna as our back up RB. We could do a lot worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARM1968 Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 Barge pole touch don't with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 His best before date has expired .... If he can't play for Man City then he can't play for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matty98 Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 2 minutes ago, gurru991 said: His best before date has expired .... If he can't play for Man City then he can't play for us Better tell Iheanacho to pack his bags then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 He's probably on a massive wage, not sure but he could be even close to our highest earners, and not sure if he can improve his area of the pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STUHILL Posted 4 September 2017 Share Posted 4 September 2017 33 minutes ago, Wymeswold fox said: He's probably on a massive wage, not sure but he could be even close to our highest earners, and not sure if he can improve his area of the pitch. He's on no wage right now. He'd be lucky to stay in the Prem and get a 60k wage at his age. We need decent cover at RB and he certainly can offer that for a year. A good option IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurru991 Posted 5 September 2017 Share Posted 5 September 2017 3 hours ago, matty98 said: Better tell Iheanacho to pack his bags then completely different circumstances. I think that is fairly obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Guy In The Room Posted 5 September 2017 Share Posted 5 September 2017 I'd like him to sign just so people stop fvcking going on about buying another right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 On 04/09/2017 at 13:36, inckley fox said: Sidelining a 22 year-old (in Amartey) and a bunch of teenagers (Johnson and Knight) is fine, if they're not good enough or not ready, but when the current incumbent in the right back role is 30, and your squad is one of the oldest in the division, you should really be looking at opportunities to nurture a replacement. It depends whether our long-term strategy is to have a veteran line-up that needs major surgery year-in year-out, or a squad through which youth can graduate, and which evolves over time. Is this signing and that really incompatible? Not sure what sort of player Darnell Johnson is but having an attacking fullback like sagna to tutor could work well - that was essentially the point of Powell (tutor mattock) and to a lesser extent Edworthy (for gilbert and morrison) when we were in league one after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inckley fox Posted 6 September 2017 Share Posted 6 September 2017 24 minutes ago, The Doctor said: Is this signing and that really incompatible? Not sure what sort of player Darnell Johnson is but having an attacking fullback like sagna to tutor could work well - that was essentially the point of Powell (tutor mattock) and to a lesser extent Edworthy (for gilbert and morrison) when we were in league one after all. That's a very good point, but I think the difference this time is that we already have a league-winning full back to tutor him. Plus if we have faith that, say, Johnson or Amartey can grow into the role, I'd argue that - without a loan in the offing - game-time is at some point going to be necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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