Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Electric Yetis]

29 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

Fair play, you have expressed an opinion that is truly in the spirit of the thread. 

 

My girlfriend is teacher and she leaves the house at 7:00 every morning and gets back at around 18:00 and then has 2/3 hours worth or marking or preparation to do having had a day of being sworn at or even spat at on occasion by students who really don't want to be there. I certainly wouldn't fancy it. The only thing about the job that would appeal to me is the holidays. 

I come from a family of teachers and that rings true.

 

Obviously the holidays are good but we used to go away for a week and after that my Mum would spend the rest of the summer in school putting up displays, preparing lessons and then home making up lesson plans for the forthcoming year. Very little actual break.

 

I'm a lazy bastard but they are the hardest workers I've ever seen. Obviously not every teacher will be like this but from personal experience it's not a role I envy.

[BenTheFox]

4 minutes ago, Rain King said:

I come from a family of teachers and that rings true.

 

Obviously the holidays are good but we used to go away for a week and after that my Mum would spend the rest of the summer in school putting up displays, preparing lessons and then home making up lesson plans for the forthcoming year. Very little actual break.

 

I'm a lazy bastard but they are the hardest workers I've ever seen. Obviously not every teacher will be like this but from personal experience it's not a role I envy.

You're right, even the holidays aren't that straight forward. If you want to go somewhere it's always going to much more expensive and you obviously can't take any time off during term.  

[Footballwipe]

21 minutes ago, BenTheFox said:

You're right, even the holidays aren't that straight forward. If you want to go somewhere it's always going to much more expensive and you obviously can't take any time off during term.  

Or you scramble to get a holiday in the first week of Leicestershire summer holidays when it's still slightly cheaper. Then you're stuffed.

 

The holidays are "great" but not if you have hobbies outside of the holiday window. I am desperate to go to the USA in the autumn to do some College Football, a proper once-in-a-lifetime thing for me, but unless we go in October half term week I'll have to go on my own because my OH has to be back and working. There's also something I really want to go and do in Feb/March next year that doesn't fall within the holiday window - again that's me going alone because it's outside of the holiday window. You get holiday but you are shackled when you take them. All well and good if you're a teacher couple and don't mind missing stuff.

[Charl91]

20 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

Or you scramble to get a holiday in the first week of Leicestershire summer holidays when it's still slightly cheaper. Then you're stuffed.

 

The holidays are "great" but not if you have hobbies outside of the holiday window. I am desperate to go to the USA in the autumn to do some College Football, a proper once-in-a-lifetime thing for me, but unless we go in October half term week I'll have to go on my own because my OH has to be back and working. There's also something I really want to go and do in Feb/March next year that doesn't fall within the holiday window - again that's me going alone because it's outside of the holiday window. You get holiday but you are shackled when you take them. All well and good if you're a teacher couple and don't mind missing stuff.

 

Even something simple like wanting to do the 3 weekend at Download festival. Can't take a Friday off, so I'd have to miss 70% of that day by the time I get there. 

[grobyfox1990]

52 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

Or you scramble to get a holiday in the first week of Leicestershire summer holidays when it's still slightly cheaper. Then you're stuffed.

 

The holidays are "great" but not if you have hobbies outside of the holiday window. I am desperate to go to the USA in the autumn to do some College Football, a proper once-in-a-lifetime thing for me, but unless we go in October half term week I'll have to go on my own because my OH has to be back and working. There's also something I really want to go and do in Feb/March next year that doesn't fall within the holiday window - again that's me going alone because it's outside of the holiday window. You get holiday but you are shackled when you take them. All well and good if you're a teacher couple and don't mind missing stuff.

Obviously teacher holidays are not as picture perfect as everyone makes out but i can't see how your situation is different to many other people in many other professions. I can't take longer than one day off between Jan - April, my wife's busy time (summer and xmas) is exactly when my industry chills, also we often have to take mandatory leave which is assigned to us and we have no choice over. Couples can't take time off at exactly the same time. School teachers can only go away in school holidays. Both these things are very normal.

[grobyfox1990]

3 hours ago, Tommy G said:

 

You can sit and whinge about any situation in life or otherwise, it won’t get you anywhere 

 

 

You are literally describing how someone gets somewhere.

 

Pretty sure all these footballers we're watching in the world cup didn't lazily and idly sit back and think 'well that's my life shovelling sh1t in the favela for 2p a day thats life what can i do about it thats my lot i cant whinge!!' - they incessantly worked, argued and fought to change their lives for the better

[Tommy G]

Just now, grobyfox1990 said:

You are literally describing how someone gets somewhere.

 

Pretty sure all these footballers we're watching in the world cup didn't lazily and idly sit back and think 'well that's my life shovelling sh1t in the favela for 2p a day thats life what can i do about it thats my lot i cant whinge!!' - they incessantly worked, argued and fought to change their lives for the better

I'm saying don't sit there and whinge get off you're arse and make a change. If I was unhappy as a teacher (about my pay and conditions) I'd choose another pathway - a very sensitive topic clearly but just to put some context on it.  

[grobyfox1990]

1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

I'm saying don't sit there and whinge get off you're arse and make a change. If I was unhappy as a teacher (about my pay and conditions) I'd choose another pathway - a very sensitive topic clearly but just to put some context on it.  

That's what im saying, aren't they getting off their ar5es and making a change by striking?

 

You say choose another pathway but then say ' private sector workers who are seeing a 2% pay increase and can't do anything about it,' - why can't they do anything about it? They can demand a higher payrise if their performance justifies it, or, as you say, choose another pathway. Private sector is booming in lots of industries right now.

 

Also i do agree with 'Must make a mental note not to post anything in the, ironic, unpopular opinions you hold thread, incase it upsets people' - but i would hope you keep posting and ignore those who attack you personally because they can't handle it

[Foxdiamond]

Just now, Tommy G said:

I'm saying don't sit there and whinge get off you're arse and make a change. If I was unhappy as a teacher (about my pay and conditions) I'd choose another pathway - a very sensitive topic clearly but just to put some context on it.  

That is exactly what is happening teachers, nurses, care workers etc are leaving in droves and those that are left are desperate. Good job our forebears did force through changes via industrial action etc. 

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

1 hour ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Obviously teacher holidays are not as picture perfect as everyone makes out but i can't see how your situation is different to many other people in many other professions. I can't take longer than one day off between Jan - April, my wife's busy time (summer and xmas) is exactly when my industry chills, also we often have to take mandatory leave which is assigned to us and we have no choice over. Couples can't take time off at exactly the same time. School teachers can only go away in school holidays. Both these things are very normal.

Nobody who's putting forward the teachers' case is saying that other people don't also have a case for their jobs to be better.

And for those other people to suggest teachers' jobs shouldn't be better because theirs aren't, or that teachers shouldn't complain about the crap they have to deal with because other people have to deal with crap too - could you ask for a better illustration of the effectiveness of 'divide and rule?'

[grobyfox1990]

16 minutes ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said:

Nobody who's putting forward the teachers' case is saying that other people don't also have a case for their jobs to be better.

And for those other people to suggest teachers' jobs shouldn't be better because theirs aren't, or that teachers shouldn't complain about the crap they have to deal with because other people have to deal with crap too - could you ask for a better illustration of the effectiveness of 'divide and rule?'

That's not what i'm saying at all, not sure what you've read in my post, or if you are extrapolating in the hope of me saying something i'm not. I'm quite happy with my terms and conditions in my job, and think if teachers aren't happy with theirs. they should kick off. I certainly would and do not begrudge them doing so.

 

My response was to the original poster, who (it appears to me, i may be wrong) feeling hard done by because his partner can't go with him on holiday twice over the next year at a specific time. Couples not getting leave approved at exactly the same time is hardly worthy of a mention, it's as worthy of a mention as me saying i am hard done by as i had to be in a meeting at 8.45am this morning.

Edited 2 December 2022 by grobyfox1990
removed the jokey lang which could inflame

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

21 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

That's not what i'm saying at all, not sure what you've read in my post, or if you are extrapolating in the hope of me saying something i'm not. I'm quite happy with my terms and conditions in my job, and think if teachers aren't happy with theirs. they should kick off. I certainly would and do not begrudge them doing so.

 

My response was to the original poster, who (it appears to me, i may be wrong) feeling hard done by because his partner can't go with him on holiday twice over the next year at a specific time. Couples not getting leave approved at exactly the same time is hardly worthy of a mention, it's as worthy of a mention as me saying i am hard done by as i had to be in a meeting at 8.45am this morning.

Fair enough. In the flurry of whataboutery yours looked like more of it. I should probably read stuff more carefully! Soz.

[SemperEadem]

The countless social media posts on ‘the owners’ by the club. Top turns up at a game and its 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 posts falling over themselves. Cult FC

[Parafox]

7 hours ago, Tommy G said:

I'm saying don't sit there and whinge get off you're arse and make a change. If I was unhappy as a teacher (about my pay and conditions) I'd choose another pathway - a very sensitive topic clearly but just to put some context on it.  

This is a joke, surely. So, if you're not happy, jack it in and walk into another job. Simple, huh?

 

All these guys want is "a fair day's pay for a fair day's work", to quote a union statement from many years ago. It's not all about pay. It's also, as others have said, about working conditions, staffing levels, unpaid additional hours worked in your own time. often at home in the case of teachers and many others in the private sector also.

 

Everyone is entitled IN LAW to withdraw their labour in protest and to attempt to improve their working conditions/salaries. 

 

It's views like yours that are actually counter-productive and alienating and encourage the responses that I think you want.

 

Gives you a "thrill" I bet, sitting there in your ivory tower.

Edited 2 December 2022 by Parafox

[Tommy G]

15 minutes ago, Parafox said:

This is a joke, surely. So, if you're not happy, jack it in and walk into another job. Simple, huh?

 

All these guys want is "a fair day's pay for a fair day's work", to quote a union statement from many years ago. It's not all about pay. It's also, as others have said, about working conditions, staffing levels, unpaid additional hours worked in your own time. often at home in the case of teachers and many others in the private sector also.

 

Everyone is entitled IN LAW to withdraw their labour in protest and to attempt to improve their working conditions/salaries. 

 

It's views like yours that are actually counter-productive and alienating and encourage the responses that I think you want.

 

Gives you a "thrill" I bet, sitting there in your ivory tower.

How can you be this animated on a Friday night? Pour a glass of wine and relax, it’s not worth it. Have a great weekend 

[Parafox]

1 minute ago, Tommy G said:

How can you be this animated on a Friday night? Pour a glass of wine and relax, it’s not worth it. Have a great weekend 

Thanks. I can't have a glass of wine as I have to pick my daughter up from her zero hours job at 11pm. 

 

You too. 

[Samilktray]

The talk about Maddison playing/not playing for England this tournament is a bit boring and pointless now 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Pepsi World Cup ads are utter shite.

[Nalis]

4 minutes ago, SouthStandUpperTier said:

Pepsi World Cup ads are utter shite.

Went downhill from 'what are we playing for then?' Pepsiiiiii' in the 00s.

[Wymsey]

Mince pies are foul.

Alongside Sherry.  🚮 

[lcfc278]

11 hours ago, Wymsey said:

Mince pies are foul.

Alongside Sherry.  🚮 

See I don't mind a mince pie but I can't stand Christmas Pudding or Christmas Cake - feel like people are taking the mick when they say they like them. Just have a nice chocolate cake and put some holly on the top of it, much better.

[Mike Oxlong]

16 minutes ago, lcfc278 said:

See I don't mind a mince pie but I can't stand Christmas Pudding or Christmas Cake - feel like people are taking the mick when they say they like them. Just have a nice chocolate cake and put some holly on the top of it, much better.

 

I took your advice and asked her round but she’s replied saying she’s busy that day 

[The Bear]

Plus you want the chocolate cake on top of her, not the other way round. 

[Tommy G]

2 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said:

 

I took your advice and asked her round but she’s replied saying she’s busy that day 

I think age is starting to overtake her these days, still top drawer but I suspect this is a photo from a few years back.

[Mike Oxlong]

5 hours ago, Tommy G said:

I think age is starting to overtake her these days, still top drawer but I suspect this is a photo from a few years back.

I can’t afford to be too fussy these days 😢