Unpopular Opinions You Hold

[Claridge]

15 hours ago, ozleicester said:

 

 

Oxfam ...

 

Current estimates suggest that as of this year, we need donor governments to invest around $37 billion every year until 2030 to tackle both extreme and chronic hunger.

Let’s start with extreme hunger. We need about $23 billion just this year to meet the needs of people facing starvation and acute malnutrition.

These resources—primarily for cash and food assistance—represent almost half of what is needed to meet the world’s overall humanitarian needs.
 

But world leaders never fully fund what is needed every year. In 2021, they contributed only 46 percent toward the total cost of global humanitarian needs.

So how much more money would it take to address chronic hunger? According to Ceres2030, an initiative led by foundations, universities, and scientists working to find solutions to hunger, donor governments would need to invest an additional $14 billion on average in foreign aid every year until 2030 to end hunger sustainably.
 

 

 

The Oxfam that pretend to be a charity but pay non execs hundreds of thousand for a few days work. Wouldn't believe a word they. 

[MPH]

11 hours ago, filthyfox said:

The most simple way to end poverty is to start mass sterilisation.

 

 

 

im assuming you’re joking?

 

 

some of the best most philanthropic billionaires came from poverty.

 

 

the problem is that some people see those living in Poverty as a problem.

 

 

it doesn’t help that the media portray the average person living in poverty as  some Chav from a housing estate.

[filthyfox]

13 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Utterly and completely wrong.

There is already enough money and food to feed the world.

People Societies reduce the number of children they have produce once they are assisted out of poverty

These are proven facts

Sorry... 5 years in Germany obviously had an effect on me!

[filthyfox]

2 hours ago, MPH said:

 

 

im assuming you’re joking?

 

 

some of the best most philanthropic billionaires came from poverty.

 

 

the problem is that some people see those living in Poverty as a problem.

 

 

it doesn’t help that the media portray the average person living in poverty as  some Chav from a housing estate.

Nope... I'm deadly ****ing serious!

 

I come from a world where on a DAILY basis, I hear "whinge whinge whinge... I need a bigger house cos I've got too many kids"

"Whinge whinge whinge... I'm pregnant and none of my kids can share a bedroom"

 

These issues can EASILY be fixed by either sterilisation or abstinence.

 

And yes, I am FULLY aware that one of those kids may ironically provide the secret to painless sterilisation!

Edited 26 June 2023 by filthyfox

[MPH]

5 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

Nope... I'm deadly ****ing serious!

 

Well, you definitely chose the right thread to post it in…

[grobyfox1990]

11 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

Nope... I'm deadly ****ing serious!

 

I come from a world where on a DAILY basis, I hear "whinge whinge whinge... I need a bigger house cos I've got too many kids"

"Whinge whinge whinge... I'm pregnant and none of my kids can share a bedroom"

 

These issues can EASILY be fixed by either sterilisation or abstinence.

 

And yes, I am FULLY aware that one of those kids may ironically provide the secret to painless sterilisation!

Haha what world are you in?!?! I thought you were going down the road of there’s far too many people in the world to sustainably support already so let’s stop fcking pumping more people into it who are doomed to a lifetime of poverty and misery 

[Heathrow fox]

14 hours ago, filthyfox said:

The most simple way to end poverty is to start mass sterilisation.

 

That’s a theory so flawed I don’t know where to begin.Education and huge investment in infrastructure would be a much better way forward 

[filthyfox]

11 minutes ago, grobyfox1990 said:

Haha what world are you in?!?! I thought you were going down the road of there’s far too many people in the world to sustainably support already so let’s stop fcking pumping more people into it who are doomed to a lifetime of poverty and misery 

The world of social housing.

[Claridge]

Just now, filthyfox said:

The world of social housing.

Me too I’m not sure people have any idea of what some of these people are like. They want everything for nothing and get it. Feel sorry for the hard working decent people in housing association homes, but a lot are vile

[S1DDO]

It should be illegal to ride bikes on the road if there's a cycle path

[Wymsey]

3 minutes ago, S1DDO said:

It should be illegal to ride bikes on the road if there's a cycle path

 

[whoareyaaa]

11 minutes ago, S1DDO said:

It should be illegal to ride bikes on the road if there's a cycle path

 

[Foxdiamond]

32 minutes ago, Claridge said:

Me too I’m not sure people have any idea of what some of these people are like. They want everything for nothing and get it. Feel sorry for the hard working decent people in housing association homes, but a lot are vile

We need more social housing for the hard working people you refer to. Of course some tenants do pay rent and are not spongers

[Nalis]

On 25/06/2023 at 15:05, Zear0 said:

My toes litteraly curl whenever I hear "Don't Stop Me Now".

Agreed, one of the most overrated and overplayed songs of all time.

 

On 23/06/2023 at 21:53, RonnieTodger said:

Black Mirror is self-indulgent shite

You are in the right thread, I'll give you that.

[Claridge]

41 minutes ago, Foxdiamond said:

We need more social housing for the hard working people you refer to. Of course some tenants do pay rent and are not spongers

We definitely need more, loads of people in housing are great hard working people, elderly or down on their luck.   20 % are complete and utter …..

[Dunge]

2 hours ago, filthyfox said:

Nope... I'm deadly ****ing serious!

 

I come from a world where on a DAILY basis, I hear "whinge whinge whinge... I need a bigger house cos I've got too many kids"

"Whinge whinge whinge... I'm pregnant and none of my kids can share a bedroom"

 

These issues can EASILY be fixed by either sterilisation or abstinence.

 

And yes, I am FULLY aware that one of those kids may ironically provide the secret to painless sterilisation!

Just from a technical perspective, you realise mass sterilisation would be a logistical nightmare? For starters you’d need a totalitarian regime in charge. As for abstinence, you think you can convince people not to have sex? Even the priesthood couldn’t manage that and they preach it.

 

I mention it because (regardless of ethics) you say it’d be the easiest thing. I think it would arguably be the most difficult thing.

[The Bear]

The way to limit family size (IMO) is to cap benefits after a certain amount of children. 

 

Then they can choose to have more kids but they'd have to pay for them themselves. That way you can still choose to have big a family but it'd discourage some of those benefit sharks who just keep having more and more kids then demand huge houses and incomes to support them. 

Edited 26 June 2023 by The Bear

[Tuna]

2 hours ago, S1DDO said:

It should be illegal to ride bikes on the road if there's a cycle path

Good luck with that, you'd need every bike to have a number plate or some identifier.

[Zear0]

27 minutes ago, The Bear said:

The way to limit family size (IMO) is to cap benefits after a certain amount of children. 

 

Then they can choose to have more kids but they'd have to pay for them themselves. That way you can still choose to have big a family but it'd discourage some of those benefit sharks who just keep having more and more kids then demand huge houses and incomes to support them. 

We already do

 

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/jun/01/two-child-limit-on-uk-welfare-benefits-has-failed-to-push-parents-into-jobs

 

[ozleicester]

Again, just for clarity.

There is enough money in the world to end poverty, we choose not to do it.

[leicsmac]

I honestly wasn't aware that we had so many wannabe eugenicists on FT.

 

Honestly, not only does it violate practically every rule of scientific ethics we have, as @Dunge says above it would require a government basically totalitarian in nature to enforce. So where's the utility here when reducing inequality is shown to do the same thing anyway?

 

People gaming the system pisses people off, understandable. But this is a terrible idea both morally and practically.

[leicsmac]

4 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

Again, just for clarity.

There is enough money in the world to end poverty, we choose not to do it.

This is likely true.

 

However, this is a particular matter that would take unified global action because you'd need to shore up every single tax haven. As much as I agree with the idea, I'm not sure how that can practically be done.

[Dahnsouff]

4 hours ago, leicsmac said:

This is likely true.

 

However, this is a particular matter that would take unified global action because you'd need to shore up every single tax haven. As much as I agree with the idea, I'm not sure how that can practically be done.

I would also question that such distribution goes against basic human competitive nature, at least in part and I am not condoning that as we could all do with a being a bit kinder to wider society.

[leicsmac]

5 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

I would also question that such distribution goes against basic human competitive nature, at least in part and I am not condoning that as we could all do with a being a bit kinder to wider society.

For me, having competition and conflict being an integral part of "human nature", as opposed to collaboration, is a matter still up for very serious debate.

 

Perhaps this is a little too Golden Mean Fallacy, but perhaps the solution lies in the middle and depends on situation, and the real skill and test of human nature is knowing when competition is best and when collaboration is.

[Dahnsouff]

9 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

For me, having competition and conflict being an integral part of "human nature", as opposed to collaboration, is a matter still up for very serious debate.

 

Perhaps this is a little too Golden Mean Fallacy, but perhaps the solution lies in the middle and depends on situation, and the real skill and test of human nature is knowing when competition is best and when collaboration is.

Yes, can see this being true, competition as the sole driver is a poor guide and it would be better for society to be the arbiter of success rather than some purely competitive metric. However, human nature has embraced competitive reasoning for thousands of years, so it is hardly a contemporary problem.