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2 hours ago, Daggers said:

I find the submarine humour as feeble as the faux online experts in conspiracies, aquatic structural engineering and deep sea recovery.

 

Honestly, it’s OK just not to have an opinion because you aren’t an  expert and stfu.

Says the man you said I have tits even though he’s 10,000 miles away.

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9 hours ago, ajthefox said:

Well yes of course, but you aren't solving migration and what causes it with that are you?

Well no, of course not, although if we took the billions from all of the billionaires around the world and put it toward solving the the issues, we could end poverty which is fair starting point.

The current wealth of billionaires is estimated to be 8 trillion dollars, the cost to end poverty is est 25 billion dollars (edit per year)... the billionaires could end poverty for 250+ years (and lets not forget these self made genii are going to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and just become billionaires again so, no loss there.).


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On 24/06/2023 at 01:23, ozleicester said:

Well no, of course not, although if we took the billions from all of the billionaires around the world and put it toward solving the the issues, we could end poverty which is fair starting point.

The current wealth of billionaires is estimated to be 8 trillion dollars, the cost to end poverty is est 25 billion dollars (edit per year)... the billionaires could end poverty for 250+ years (and lets not forget these self made genii are going to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and just become billionaires again so, no loss there.).


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25 billion to end poverty, whose made that figure up?

Posted
1 hour ago, Claridge said:

25 billion to end poverty, whose made that figure up?

Yeah World Bank gives 790 million people as being in extreme poverty. That's £31 each. That's extreme not "normal (hate to call it that)" poverty. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Claridge said:

25 billion to end poverty, whose made that figure up?

 

11 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Yeah World Bank gives 790 million people as being in extreme poverty. That's £31 each. That's extreme not "normal (hate to call it that)" poverty. 

 

I can't find the picture now, but there was a meme I saw the other day that sums this up.

 

Picture 1 was just some huts in Africa saying "Africa without money"

 

Picture 2 was captioned "Africa with money" It was the same huts, they just had Range Rovers parked outside lol

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3 hours ago, Claridge said:

25 billion to end poverty, whose made that figure up?

 

2 hours ago, Zear0 said:

Yeah World Bank gives 790 million people as being in extreme poverty. That's £31 each. That's extreme not "normal (hate to call it that)" poverty. 

Oxfam ...

 

Current estimates suggest that as of this year, we need donor governments to invest around $37 billion every year until 2030 to tackle both extreme and chronic hunger.

Let’s start with extreme hunger. We need about $23 billion just this year to meet the needs of people facing starvation and acute malnutrition.

These resources—primarily for cash and food assistance—represent almost half of what is needed to meet the world’s overall humanitarian needs.
 

But world leaders never fully fund what is needed every year. In 2021, they contributed only 46 percent toward the total cost of global humanitarian needs.

So how much more money would it take to address chronic hunger? According to Ceres2030, an initiative led by foundations, universities, and scientists working to find solutions to hunger, donor governments would need to invest an additional $14 billion on average in foreign aid every year until 2030 to end hunger sustainably.
 

 


 

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2 hours ago, ozleicester said:

 

 

Oxfam ...

 

Current estimates suggest that as of this year, we need donor governments to invest around $37 billion every year until 2030 to tackle both extreme and chronic hunger.

Let’s start with extreme hunger. We need about $23 billion just this year to meet the needs of people facing starvation and acute malnutrition.

These resources—primarily for cash and food assistance—represent almost half of what is needed to meet the world’s overall humanitarian needs.
 

But world leaders never fully fund what is needed every year. In 2021, they contributed only 46 percent toward the total cost of global humanitarian needs.

So how much more money would it take to address chronic hunger? According to Ceres2030, an initiative led by foundations, universities, and scientists working to find solutions to hunger, donor governments would need to invest an additional $14 billion on average in foreign aid every year until 2030 to end hunger sustainably.
 

 


 


 

im sorry to be a boblet but the 25 billion  you quoted won’t end poverty, it will just feed people.  It’s doesn’t take into account clothing, housing, healthcare needs, ect.it could be argued that food is the cheapest of all the factors mentioned so it’s clear the cost of ending poverty would be existentially higher…

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8 minutes ago, MPH said:


 

im sorry to be a boblet but the 25 billion  you quoted won’t end poverty, it will just feed people.  It’s doesn’t take into account clothing, housing, healthcare needs, ect.it could be argued that food is the cheapest of all the factors mentioned so it’s clear the cost of ending poverty would be existentially higher…

I'm sorry for being a massive pedant here, but I think you're looking for the word "exponentially"?

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58 minutes ago, MPH said:


 

im sorry to be a boblet but the 25 billion  you quoted won’t end poverty, it will just feed people.  It’s doesn’t take into account clothing, housing, healthcare needs, ect.it could be argued that food is the cheapest of all the factors mentioned so it’s clear the cost of ending poverty would be existentially higher…

fair point... i did mention it would do that for 250 years,

Although... given that billionaires have doubled their wealth over the past couple of years and their amazing ability to pull themselves up by the bootstraps they will just create even more wealth which can be used.

Bottom line ... there is enough money to solve poverty we just dont want to.

Who'd thought, stopping people starving would be an unpopular opinion.

https://borgenproject.org/how-much-does-it-cost-to-end-poverty/#:~:text=Jeffrey Sachs%2C as one of,per year for 20 years.

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13 minutes ago, leicsmac said:

I'm sorry for being a massive pedant here, but I think you're looking for the word "exponentially"?


 

yes indeed. Late night typing 🙄

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8 minutes ago, filthyfox said:

The most simple way to end poverty is to start mass sterilisation.

 

Utterly and completely wrong.

There is already enough money and food to feed the world.

People Societies reduce the number of children they have produce once they are assisted out of poverty

These are proven facts

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50 minutes ago, ozleicester said:

Utterly and completely wrong.

There is already enough money and food to feed the world.

People Societies reduce the number of children they have produce once they are assisted out of poverty

These are proven facts

Yeah, the correlation between increased means and population growth slowdown is obvious and well documented.

 

No need for Malthusian solutions when addressing inequality will work in much more humane fashion.

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