Huddersfield Away 1-1 post match

[Guest Col city fan]

As i said before, I'm not surprised. I look at our squad and think it's bang average. I'm sure I wrote in the pre match thread it's about managing expectations.

An away point given how the game went is not too bad. 

But its how we play that worries me. We are a terrible side at keeping possession of the football. If we can't control games in any meaningful way, we'll lose against the good sides.

[Foxy_jim]

Haven't read the whole thread, can't be arsed, so apologies if already mentioned but Shakespeare's comment about telling the players at half time he would take a point is worrying and infuriating. I'm sorry but he should be demanding 3 points against teams like this, after spending the money we have and keeping all our best players bar Drinkwater. It a a cop out and a defensive negative attitude to say during the match 'Oh well we are playing shit again lets take a point' 

 

I'm quite worried by today's performance, we were dominated and looked second best.

[Foxy_jim]

1 minute ago, Col city fan said:

As i said before, I'm not surprised. I look at our squad and think it's bang average. I'm sure I wrote in the pre match thread it's about managing expectations.

An away point given how the game went is not too bad. 

But its how we play that worries me. We are a terrible side at keeping possession of the football. If we can't control games in any meaningful way, we'll lose against the good sides.

Huddersfield are not one of the good sides and yet we were 2nd best all game. We must be the worst passing team in the league, it's pathetic, and again without Mahrez we cannot create anything, it's play through him or hoof it to Vardy.

[Guest Col city fan]

Just now, Foxy_jim said:

Huddersfield are not one of the good sides and yet we were 2nd best all game. We must be the worst passing team in the league, it's pathetic, and again without Mahrez we cannot create anything, it's play through him or hoof it to Vardy.

Yes but we didn't lose is my point. If we were playing one of the better sides in the division today, we'd have been dead and buried by half time.

[Cockyfox]

Been on foxestalk a while but have never really felt the need to create an account but thought I might as well give my thoughts. 

I think whilst the criticism of Shakey is somewhat warranted, it's a bit early to question his position at the moment. If he insists on playing 442 every game I would start to question his position because I think it's clear to everyone that we need a change of system. We are constantly getting overpowered in the midfield and I think 3 in midfield is definitely needed so we will see if Shakey can adapt for Tuesday or next weekend.

Probably an unpopular opinion but think we missed James today despite King having a decent game. James seems to drop deep and collect the ball similar to how Drinkwater did and whilst Ndidi is good at winning the ball back his pass completion leaves a lot to be desired and we struggled to keep possession at all today. We obviously need a creative midfielder so if/when we get Silva and Iborra is back fit one of them has to start as none of our players are creating chances apart from Mahrez who I think gets a lot of harsh criticism on this site. He must have created well over half of our chances in the first 5 games.

As for the strikers, all of them haven't finished very well so far this season. I can remember the criticism of Slimani last week for the chance missed against Chelsea, well Iheanacho missed a very similar chance today and I haven't seen anyone mention it and of course Vardy missed a dead certain open goal so everyone misses at some point. Lets be honest none of our goals have been good finishes. Okazaki has had two tap ins, Vardy has scored 2 penalties, a tap in and a decent header so I think the finishing has to improve. I don't really care who starts up front as long as they take the majority of their chances and it seems like no one is doing that at the minute. 

I can't see us in any trouble of going down however I think a change of formation is a must so over to you Shakey...

 

[Mark]

Didn't see the match today but from the highlights Ndidi looked like he was giving the ball away needlessly at times which is becoming a common theme

[Suzie the Fox]

I think we have to bear in mind that Huddersfield on paper are the worser (is that a word?) side. 

 

However there momentum to the start of the season has been incredible and they were playing us at home on the back of a loss in mid week, so they were totally up for it.  It was always going to be a tuff game! 

 

 

 

 

[HighPeakFox]

1 hour ago, easilee said:

I see where you're coming from, but 3 or 4 'bad days at the office' usually means 'nowhere near Champions League standard'.

 

Are you seriously expecting CL standard? 

[esoog]

2 hours ago, Farrington fox said:

Morgan as good as he has been, is not and never has been a captain. 

And when we lifted the premier league ??

[Cockyfox]

3 minutes ago, Mark said:

Didn't see the match today but from the highlights Ndidi looked like he was giving the ball away needlessly at times which is becoming a common theme

Yeah his pass completion is somewhere in the low 70s and his first touch is very average at times, he also seems slow to press when they have the ball on the edge of our box. Although he is still very young so has a lot of time to develop and I think he could benefit from playing in a 3 man midfield. 

[Webbo]

20 minutes ago, Sublime_Coatsworth said:

Streams were dreadful today for some reason. Did you find a decent one? I managed to find one that way okay for the second half but on SD

Always the same when we're playing one of the smaller teams.

[Suzie the Fox]

4 minutes ago, Mark said:

Didn't see the match today but from the highlights Ndidi looked like he was giving the ball away needlessly at times which is becoming a common theme

Sadly it is. 

 

(Think yourself lucky you missed the game today, it was not pretty)

[Ric Flair]

7 minutes ago, Mark said:

Didn't see the match today but from the highlights Ndidi looked like he was giving the ball away needlessly at times which is becoming a common theme

He's really struggling this season. We've got to get another body in there without losing our attacking threat, this is why teams have attacking full backs but an exta man in the middle. We can only do that if we go 3-4-1-2 and have Albrighton at RWB and Fuchs or the erratic Chilwell LWB. Simpsons number is up for me if we want to progress. 

[theadmans]

Kingy won us the penalty that got us a point today.

 

.....Just because he is a throw back to League One days doesn't make him a completely useless player.

[esoog]

Problem has been the position occupied by drinky in midfield. Both James and kingy can't play that role the team needs. Little tweak will make all the difference going forward with Silva and Iborra in the mix. 

[st albans fox]

18 minutes ago, Foxy_jim said:

Haven't read the whole thread, can't be arsed, so apologies if already mentioned but Shakespeare's comment about telling the players at half time he would take a point is worrying and infuriating. I'm sorry but he should be demanding 3 points against teams like this, after spending the money we have and keeping all our best players bar Drinkwater. It a a cop out and a defensive negative attitude to say during the match 'Oh well we are playing shit again lets take a point' 

 

I'm quite worried by today's performance, we were dominated and looked second best.

 

Did he ?

 

he said to tanner after the game that given the way the first half had gone he would have taken a point at half time - not necessarily the same thing and doubtful he would have told the players that. 

 

[Nick]

Ndidi And James are bench players right now harsh but true. King is, well I'm not actually sure but let's go with Mascot.

 

Silva and Iborra we're surely brought in to start but I get the feeling that Iborra is not a Shakespeare acquisition as such.

 

Midtable at best for us but I suspect 11-15th.

[Benguin]

2 hours ago, Tuna said:

They're a decent side and in good form too.

I'm not saying they're not but they're are certainly a team where 1 point is not good enough following our start to the season. If we are to be content with 1 point home or away against huddersfield, then we can't expect to do much this season. The performance probably won't define our season but that's not the point.

[Ric Flair]

3 minutes ago, theadmans said:

Kingy won us the penalty that got us a point today.

 

.....Just because he is a throw back to League One days doesn't make him a completely useless player.

But he's not good enough. The fact he's being used quite regularly is horrifying.

[Strokes]

28 minutes ago, Sublime_Coatsworth said:

Streams were dreadful today for some reason. Did you find a decent one? I managed to find one that way okay for the second half but on SD

Yeah mine was ok, dropped out a couple of times but pretty steady.

[Babylon]

2 hours ago, volpeazzurro said:

It's about opinions and that's mine, feel free to disagree , it's your opinion. With the exception of result against a poor Brighton side, if you play the same system and get overrun each time, one against an average newly promoted side and don't learn any lessons, then that smacks of icompetancy for me.  Put into the mix some bizarre substitutions and his after match comments that Huddersfield didn't overrun us in midfield and played a 442 like us! Explain how that is not in touch.

Winning 7 and drawing 3 of all your games against those outside last seasons top 7 isn't anywhere close to incompetent. Let's chuck in wins against Liverpool, Seville and a draw with Athletico Madrid as well for good measure and it shows how ridiculous a statement that is.

 

You are free to your opinion I'm free to say you are clearly wrong and so far results show that also. We are 15th after having one of the hardest starts to the season.

 

Am I happy, no. Is the jury still out on him, yes. Do performances need to improve, yes. But incompetent he has not shown himself to be by any stretch of the imagination.

 

Perhaps he will go on to be, but the record at this moment clearly shows you are wrong. You want to chuck about incompetence then chuck it the way of the people who robbed him of a creative cm until January for starters.

 

I would also hope that goodness knows how many years here warrants him a bit more respect than being called, what was it "dough boy"?!

[Suzie the Fox]

My stream in the 1st half was so pixilated but just about bearable. 2nd half was better but still crappy quality. Its frustrating as hell when i watched the Palace game perfectly in full HD and as i am watching the Spurs game now. 

 

 

[foxtillidrop]

We are very uninspiring at the moment.

 

Honestly think we are paying the price for letting Danny Drinkwater go.

 

Can tell that Shakey isn't in the loop at all with regards to the Silva situation either.

 

Sense that it will be mid-table mediocrity at best this season.

 

After winning the league and participating in the champions league, it would be good if we could dream of reaching those heights again with this squad. Instead, it just feels like a big gigantic come down after a massive high. There is no urgency when we play, no tempo, no desperation, no fizz...just flat, lethargic, sideways passing displays of nothingness. 

 

Get the sense that the key players will gradually want to leave (such as Kasper, Wes, Huth, Vardy, Mahrez).

[Babylon]

5 minutes ago, Benguin said:

I'm not saying they're not but they're are certainly a team where 1 point is not good enough following our start to the season. If we are to be content with 1 point home or away against huddersfield, then we can't expect to do much this season. The performance probably won't define our season but that's not the point.

Win your home games and draw your away games against the group from 6th down and you'll have a good season. There is nothing wrong with the result today, just the poor performance.

[Guest seanfox778]

At least we didn't draw at home to Swansea