Jacnah Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 9 hours ago, Ncfc123 said: Hi everyone, Norwich fan here in peace just thought I'd give you a bit of info about James Maddison. Our main journalist has tweeted that the deal now is agreed between our two clubs its just a case now of you moving Mahrez on. Think it's only a matter of time before this move happens as he's always very reliable (our local journo that is, no idea how reliable Mahrez is on Norwich City related transfer news). Maddison has been an absolute revelation here this season. Before the season started Norwich fans were excited about the prospect of him getting more game-time, as he'd only been involved sporadically in the 18 months or so since we signed him from Coventry, and for half a season he was even inexplicably loaned out to Aberdeen by Alex Neil who had started to lose the plot. Scotland was too easy for him to be honest but in the handful of games he had played for us before last season you could see he had ability. He got his chance a bit fortuitously to be fair, due to Pritchard and Hoolahan, our main attacking midfielders, being out injured, and Steven Naismith being a fat Scottish ****. But once he got his chance he grabbed it with both hands, and without him this season we would've almost certainly been in a relegation scrap. He's an attacking midfielder, and when he's played on the wing this season he's been pretty much anonymous, so if you're planning on putting him straight in on the right hand side where Mahrez played then it won't work. Play him as a CAM though and I'm sure he'll be a very good player for you. He likes to come deep to collect the ball and then look to either make a forward pass or drive into the opposition half with pace. You can tell at times he's been frustrated this season because he'll look to clip a ball in behind the defence but our strikers just aren't clever enough to make the right runs. But with a player like Vardy up top I think he'll have a field day. He won't usually try and force the issue. Some people will see that as a bit of a negative perhaps but if he can't see a run on then he'll play it simple and knock it 6 yards to someone close to him. If you can get him in that area though between the opposition midfield and defence then you'll really get the best out of him. Obviously I'm biased but I haven't seen a better player either in the Championship this season or in a Norwich shirt in the 25 plus years I've been watching us at creating something once he's in those positions. He has 15 goals this season and nearly all of them are 20-25 yards shots that he's placed inch perfectly in the top corner. Even if the shot isn't on as long as you have runners getting into the box he's very capable of playing a lovely little ball through or chip over the top to pick them out. As you've probably seen on the highlights videos, he's very skillful. He's got a great ability to keep hold of the ball in tight areas and his set-piece delivery is outstanding. The thing that gives him such ability though is he has a massive amount of confidence. The first game of the season last season, despite the fact he'd made less than half a dozen first team appearances for us before, he was on every corner and free-kick, and you can tell from the interviews he gives that he's a confident lad. Not arrogant in the slightest though. He's been asked about his future several times this season and every time he's said that he's really enjoying being at Norwich and that he's not thinking about his future. I know I've literally just waxed lyrical about him in this post but he is honestly a really impressive young man and all Norwich fans will tell you the same, hence the reason he walked our player of the year. I know obviously its a big step to go from mid-table Championship to an established Premier League side, but I've never seen a player in a Norwich shirt more capable or more prepared to do it. One thing as well to consider when is that he's got 15 goals 11 assists this season, despite playing in, what for most of last season, was a pretty poor side. Numerous times last season he would put chances on a plate for our strikers only for them to mess it up. If he had better players around him, say played for Wolves or Fulham for example, he would've got unbelievable numbers. I think this is a really good move for all parties. All Norwich fans now are resigned to losing him due to our financial situation, and to be honest it wouldn't be fair on him to stop him moving on when he is far too good for the Championship. I think this is the perfect move for him. As much as it would look good on us selling him to a Spurs or Liverpool, he wouldn't get as much game time as I think he would want or need. Whereas Leicester are a well-established Premier League side now, and one that he can not only get plenty of game time with, but hopefully nail down a first team spot and really show what he has to offer. Really wish him all the best, and I'm sure a lot of Norwich fans will have an eye out for your games next season. I hope he signs for you now at least or I've just typed all that out for no reason. I could always copy and paste it onto the Everton forum I guess. PS, you can mock the 6 fingers but this was a long old post and I typed it in about 45 seconds Great post and Thank you - i will never again mock the fingers....but obvs the "Norwich Family" is still fair game though On a serious note as an honest appraisal of the player from a long term Norwich fan, this has made me really excited about the potential. Last season we really lacked a forward playing #10 I really hope this goes through now! 2
KJT Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 He will probably go to Everton as Marco Silva is a huge fan of his, we probably end up with Grealish
Jacnah Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 1 hour ago, Fox92 said: He'll have a few poor games and get slated just like all of our young players do on here. He will - but only by the usual suspects. Most fans, myself included, express anger, frustration and emotion immediately after a game, but most, once we all calm down fully understand that football is not deterministic, players are not machines and a few bad games doesn't make a bad player of bad manager. If he signs though i suggest we get a 'Maddison's not good enough' bingo game going :-)
sylofox Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 2 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: Makes no sense - the 2nd qualification round starts two weeks after the end of the World Cup. By then, most players will have returned from World Cup duty and/or holidays (for quite some time), and with already some training done. And the opposition in that round would've been on the easier side, anyway. At least on paper. Not buying the theory in which we allegedly threw the second half of last season because of the dangers of the Europa League qualification process. Most of our WC players would not be back for qualifying as they will get 3/4 weeks rest. Where did I say we threw the second half of the season. Puel used it to sort our squad out. In real games to see who could cut it in the system he wants.
MC Prussian Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 4 minutes ago, sylofox said: Most of our WC players would not be back for qualifying as they will get 3/4 weeks rest. Where did I say we threw the second half of the season. Puel used it to sort our squad out. In real games to see who could cut it in the system he wants. By that logic, he'd have to throw out three quarters of the squad he had at his disposition, because it clearly didn't work for most part. I'm not saying you claimed us throwing away the second half of the season, that's just the conclusion I come to when people argue about our chances in the Europa League qualification process this late July/early August, saying we didn't want it anyway.
norwichfox Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 19 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: Who knows? Iborra has stated before that he's not too happy at Leicester, so maybe he'll be allowed to go back to Spain, at least on loan. That'd leave Ndidi as our starting CDM and Silva further up front, a diamond 4-1-2-1-2 with a proper left and right midfielder, a system that works very well on the counter. Btw, what is it with Spaniards not liking it at LCFC? Hernandez was a similar case. I guess we don't keep the beaches clean enough or fill shot glasses properly.....
Ian Nacho Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 The local journalist that Norwich fan was referring to.
Jaspa Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 11 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: Not impossible, but currently unlikely. Despite his impressive stats with Norwich, I can't see Maddison being a starter already. And let's not forget he's still out injured until late July and won't be fully fit for matches before fall. He'll still be in competition for the Vardy sidekick spot between Nacho & Shinji. CAM has been a spot we've not had a player for since the Championship days with Gally; the proto-Shiji role Nuge developed and full Okazaki role are more of a deep defensive forward and the creativity has been left to the wings and one of the CDM's(Drinky now Silva). We surely know there's likely to be a change in the style of play now it looks Puel is staying put and his style has been 4-2-3-1 - just like his first game against Everton; Mahrez central as the creater, Gray's pace on the wing, one forward. As mentioned way earlier in the thread the main enticing point of Maddison coming to us is that he'll get gametime and although it could take him a while to get up to speed after his knee scare he should be pushing the starting 11 going off his form at Norwich and the competition he has here, especially if Puel favours going full blooded on his system. Thinking through this just now made me realise how bad we need to offload Ulloa & Slimani pronto, dead weights.
Stinkenzo Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 1 hour ago, Foxxed said: https://www.whoscored.com/Players/113069/History/Jack-Grealish https://www.whoscored.com/Players/137015/History/James-Maddison Maddison has better stats despite playing fewer seasons than Grealish and is a year younger. Maddison looks the better buy to me. Stats shmats. I'd take either for what its worth.
sylofox Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 32 minutes ago, MC Prussian said: Btw, what is it with Spaniards not liking it at LCFC? Hernandez was a similar case. Thats simple Suzie the (stalker) fox 1
Bluetintedspecs Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 I see there are the usual conflicting reports ? The excellent post from the Norwich fan saying their local very ITK reporter has stated it's all but done is very encouraging.The appraisal of the player himself is exciting, then up pop the gits determined to piss on our chips stating he's going Everton! Are any of OUR ITKs able to enlighten us?
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 4 minutes ago, Bluetintedspecs said: I see there are the usual conflicting reports ? The excellent post from the Norwich fan saying their local very ITK reporter has stated it's all but done is very encouraging.The appraisal of the player himself is exciting, then up pop the gits determined to piss on our chips stating he's going Everton! Are any of OUR ITKs able to enlighten us? Mightyfin was the one who mentioned the deal was done. Generally pretty reliable.
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 1 hour ago, Foxxed said: https://www.whoscored.com/Players/113069/History/Jack-Grealish https://www.whoscored.com/Players/137015/History/James-Maddison Maddison has better stats despite playing fewer seasons than Grealish and is a year younger. Maddison looks the better buy to me. If them stats are true, that means Maddison has contributed to either a goal or assist every 2 days. That’s one hell of a stat. Especially since (no disrespect) it was in a very poor Norwich side last season.
Bluetintedspecs Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 1 minute ago, ROB-THE-BLUE said: Mightyfin was the one who mentioned the deal was done. Generally pretty reliable. Cheers bud, I actually tend to take the 'ITK' business with a pinch of salt and have a, let's wait and see attitude! I do find the prospect of this signing very exciting and may go into full @SheppyFox mode on this one 1
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 10 hours ago, themightyfin said: Not sure but I know Joe Worrell from Forest is one we are taking a very close look at. We have been quoted around £14million I’m told. Making some very broad statements here my friend.
OhYesNdidi Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 47 minutes ago, KJT said: He will probably go to Everton as Marco Silva is a huge fan of his, we probably end up with Grealish It's almost as if he hasn't realised that they signed a number 10 for £45m last summer 1
Babylon Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 26 minutes ago, Ian Nacho said: The local journalist that Norwich fan was referring to. It all started with fins message on here, get repeated on twitter, this bloke sees it and runs with the story.
Babylon Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 Just now, OhYesNdidi said: It's almost as if he hasn't realised that they signed a number 10 for £45m last summer If there is one position Everton are crying out for... it's a no.10
Babylon Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 14 minutes ago, ROB-THE-BLUE said: Mightyfin was the one who mentioned the deal was done. Generally pretty reliable. Could you point out what he's got right? With the greatest of respects to him, I've gone through his posts for the last year or so and seen absolutely nothing. 1
Buce Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 11 minutes ago, Babylon said: Could you point out what he's got right? With the greatest of respects to him, I've gone through his posts for the last year or so and seen absolutely nothing. That seems a wee bit obsessive. 1
Babylon Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Buce said: That seems a wee bit obsessive. Took about a minute.... I'd rather know if these ITK's have a record of being correct than just believing everything they say. Edited 2 June 2018 by Babylon
foxfanazer Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 (edited) A lot of us thought we got the short end of the deal when we got Maguire and Everton got Keane, turned out not be the case. Could be a similar scenario with Maddison and Grealish. Although Maddison does look a proper prospect Edited 2 June 2018 by foxfanazer
ZeGuy Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 I think he's going to do fine if we sign him. Perfect player for Puel and it seems he can take free kicks and corners too. We always lacked in this area.
ROB-THE-BLUE Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 4 minutes ago, ZeGuy said: I think he's going to do fine if we sign him. Perfect player for Puel and it seems he can take free kicks and corners too. We always lacked in this area. Especially now Huth has gone 3
Steve Earle Posted 2 June 2018 Posted 2 June 2018 Looks a terrific prospect. But after two years’ crying out for a decent no. 10, I’m hoping that if we do sign him, we don’t play him there! Why? If we persist with 4231, then any improvement he brings to no10 will be offset by a lesser player replacing Mahrez in one of the wide positions. Perhaps more importantly, it’d mean not starting Nacho, one of our very few potential worldies, and who ended last season on top form playing just behind Vardy. So I hope he’s coming to play in a midfield 3 alongside Wild & Silva, leaving us the option of 2 or 3 up front...
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