NasPb Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 3 minutes ago, lcfc sheff said: any movement with this rumour? Hopefully not. We don't need a potential player. We need someone who has already delivered in a European league that's not Scotland 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 1 hour ago, NasPb said: Hopefully not. We don't need a potential player. We need someone who has already delivered in a European league that's not Scotland We won the league with nobodies and rejects. We then bought proven champions league players who floped. If our scouting, coaching and sports psychology is good enough we won't need to rely on team and competition name to decide if someone is good enough. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewquayFox Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 I say give the lad a chance, we could uncover another gem.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasPb Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 19 minutes ago, Foxxed said: We won the league with nobodies and rejects. We then bought proven champions league players who floped. If our scouting, coaching and sports psychology is good enough we won't need to rely on team and competition name to decide if someone is good enough. I'm not saying we need to buy Champions league talent.. Just players who have done well across Europe and who could really take us to another level. This lad is a potential player. Like gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 13 minutes ago, NasPb said: I'm not saying we need to buy Champions league talent.. Just players who have done well across Europe and who could really take us to another level. This lad is a potential player. Like gray. ..hope he's NOT like Gray! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcfcbisto Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 8 minutes ago, NasPb said: I'm not saying we need to buy Champions league talent.. Just players who have done well across Europe and who could really take us to another level. This lad is a potential player. Like gray. Yeah taking a chance on players with potential is just silly look how bad Vardy Kante, drinkwater and Mahrez turned out, we only won one title and made over 100 million pound in profit selling some of them ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikey54 Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 13 minutes ago, NasPb said: I'm not saying we need to buy Champions league talent.. Just players who have done well across Europe and who could really take us to another level. This lad is a potential player. Like gray. We bought players who had done well across Europe and thought they could take us to another level, but they failed miserably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MC Prussian Posted 10 July 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 10 July 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, NasPb said: I'm not saying we need to buy Champions league talent.. Just players who have done well across Europe and who could really take us to another level. This lad is a potential player. Like gray. So, wait a second... Roberts is 21, has played well for Celtic whilst on loan, played in the Champions League, scored in the Champions League, and he could take us to another level - he‘s highly rated. And English. Don‘t see what the problem is. Some folks are questioning Jahanbakhsh‘s qualities, just because he‘s at an Eredivisie team, FFS. Edited 10 July 2018 by MC Prussian 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 1 hour ago, MC Prussian said: So, wait a second... Roberts is 21, has played well for Celtic whilst on loan, played in the Champions League, scored in the Champions League, and he could take us to another level - he‘s highly rated. And English. I think it stems from fear, people were concerned that we will struggle without Mahrez. Signing a name makes them feel more safe and comfortable. We don't have a great track record of replacing key players down the years, Lennon > Matt Jones, Heskey > Akinbuyi, Kante > Mendy etc 1 hour ago, MC Prussian said: Don‘t see what the problem is. Some folks are questioning Jahanbakhsh‘s qualities, just because he‘s at an Eredivisie team, FFS. Let's be honest a high percentage of players from the Eredivisie have struggled in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrifox Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 6 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: I think it stems from fear, people were concerned that we will struggle without Mahrez. Signing a name makes them feel more safe and comfortable. We don't have a great track record of replacing key players down the years, Lennon > Matt Jones, Heskey > Akinbuyi, Kante > Mendy etc Let's be honest a high percentage of players from the Eredivisie have struggled in the PL. Agree the replacing key players point -add in Lineker> MarkBright 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lineker's Left Foot Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 Newell > Clarke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 (edited) 41 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: I think it stems from fear, people were concerned that we will struggle without Mahrez. Signing a name makes them feel more safe and comfortable. We don't have a great track record of replacing key players down the years, Lennon > Matt Jones, Heskey > Akinbuyi, Kante > Mendy etc Let's be honest a high percentage of players from the Eredivisie have struggled in the PL. We have, on the other hand, a rather great track record of "unearthing gems" and introducing youngsters, people from lower leagues and handing a chance to older players/has-beens that were practically written off at their previous clubs. Huth, Simpson, Fuchs, Vardy, Mahrez, Kanté, Albrighton, James, Wasilewski, Konchesky, De Laet, Drinkwater, Knockaert, Morgan, Nugent, Oakley, Wellens, Hume, Berner, Gallagher, Dyer, King, Howard, Dickov, Scowcroft, Sinclair (well...), Heskey, Taggart, Claridge, Savage, Lennon, Izzet, Nalis, Guppy, Cottee, Marshall, Parker, Iwan Roberts, Elliott, Walsh... look at how they thrived at LCFC. You have to replace players at some stage, and our current regime doesn't strike me as inept as or as ill-equipped as the one in the Nineties. Let's not forget that we tended to be a seller's club for a long period due to monetary constraints (and later, administration). The sportive situation today is completely different, and so are the financial circumstances. And why bringing up Mendy still? Guy's been highly unfortunate with injuries - who knows what could've been if he hadn't clipped his foot against Arsenal... Edited 10 July 2018 by MC Prussian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxpleasure Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 37 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: I think it stems from fear, people were concerned that we will struggle without Mahrez. Signing a name makes them feel more safe and comfortable. We don't have a great track record of replacing key players down the years, Lennon > Matt Jones, Heskey > Akinbuyi, Kante > Mendy etc Let's be honest a high percentage of players from the Eredivisie have struggled in the PL. Agree with some of that but the club made it clear that Mendy was never supposed to be a Kante replacement. Different type of player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 (edited) 45 minutes ago, coolhandfox said: Let's be honest a high percentage of players from the Eredivisie have struggled in the PL. A high percentage? I wouldn't say so, no more than there is with other leagues. Don't get me wrong, there's some guff signings from there, but not a high percentage. For every Van Wolfswinkel or Afonso Alves there's a: Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Toby Alderweireld, Jan Vertonghen, Thomas Vermaelen, Christian Eriksen, Davinson Sanchez, Luis Suarez, Robin Van Persie, Gio Van Bronckhorst, Dirk Kuyt, Arjen Robben, Jaap Stam, Giorgino Wijnaldum, Marc Overmars, Nwanko Kanu, Moussa Dembele, Wilfried Bony, Dusan Tadic, Solomon Kalou, Park Ji Sung or Graziano Pelle. Zlatan and Bergkamp passed through there as well. Edited 10 July 2018 by Miquel The Work Geordie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhYesNdidi Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 7 minutes ago, foxpleasure said: Agree with some of that but the club made it clear that Mendy was never supposed to be a Kante replacement. Different type of player. Why did we play the same way, with the exact same system then? Just with someone not so good replacing Kante (King, Amartey and Mendy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecretPro Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 Welcome, err, Patrick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC FOX Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 People need to realise he’s not going to be Mahrez’s replacement, he’ll just be another option, he’ll probably come in and someone like Barnes will go out on loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolhandfox Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 18 minutes ago, Miquel The Work Geordie said: A high percentage? I wouldn't say so, no more than there is with other leagues. Don't get me wrong, there's some guff signings from there, but not a high percentage. For every Van Wolfswinkel or Afonso Alves there's a: Ruud Van Nistelrooy, Toby Alderweireld, Jan Vertonghen, Thomas Vermaelen, Christian Eriksen, Davinson Sanchez, Luis Suarez, Robin Van Persie, Gio Van Bronckhorst, Dirk Kuyt, Arjen Robben, Jaap Stam, Giorgino Wijnaldum, Marc Overmars, Nwanko Kanu, Moussa Dembele, Wilfried Bony, Dusan Tadic, Solomon Kalou, Park Ji Sung or Graziano Pelle. Zlatan and Bergkamp passed through there as well. Now list the bad ones.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miquel The Work Geordie Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 Just now, coolhandfox said: Now list the bad ones.... I haven't said there aren't bad ones – I've said there's been some guff - I just think that saying a high percentage of transfers from that division have struggled is hyperbolic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxxed Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 4 hours ago, NasPb said: I'm not saying we need to buy Champions league talent.. Just players who have done well across Europe and who could really take us to another level. This lad is a potential player. Like gray. How much European football experience did Vardy, Mahrez, Ndidi, Maguire and Ngolo have when we bought them? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldeagle Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 I’m all for buying players with potential and promoting the youth team players but you have to have a balance of more experienced and older players also . Filling a whole squad with young potential is very dangerous in my eyes . Yes the squad could go of like a rocket but it also has the potential to just fizzle out with a puff of smoke like a cheap firework or worse go off in your hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Prussian Posted 10 July 2018 Share Posted 10 July 2018 I haven't said there aren't bad ones – I've said there's been some guff - I just think that saying a high percentage of transfers from that division have struggled is hyperbolic. Depends on what you classify as "high percentage" - if @coolhandfox thinks that something between 5 and 20% is a "high percentage", then that's his subjective point of view. Even though a vast majority of people would probably argue against that kind of logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post urban.spaceman Posted 10 July 2018 Popular Post Share Posted 10 July 2018 50 minutes ago, Foxxed said: How much European football experience did Vardy, Mahrez, Ndidi, Maguire and Ngolo have when we bought them? Mahrez Ndidi and Ngolo literally played in Europe. 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WigstonWanderer Posted 11 July 2018 Share Posted 11 July 2018 So did we sign this lad as part of the Mahrez deal after all or is this a separate thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsey1727 Posted 11 July 2018 Share Posted 11 July 2018 Tbh I wouldn't mode us signing him as man city must have seen something in him to sign him in the first place, I would also like another winger as well and a cb then I would be happy with this window Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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