srbfox Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, David Guiza said: I know it's utter bollocks week in week out, but can the Beeb seriously not find someone who actually watches the games to do this feature? Lawro has us down to lose 2-0 at the weekend, which is a more than fair guess. However his reasoning was a little confusing:- "Manchester United exposed Manchester City's defensive flaws with their fast counter-attacks that helped them win the derby at the start of December. Can Leicester do the same? Well, United had Marcus Rashford, Anthony Martial and Daniel James running at City - with the Foxes, it is really just Jamie Vardy who does that." I read this earlier and just laughed! Lawro doesn’t have the football knowledge to class him as a professional pundit - the whole protection league done by the Beeb might as well be done by a 12 year old edit: sorry o have probably insult many 12 year olds Edited 20 December 2019 by srbfox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lestajigs Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 3 hours ago, jonah said: Hhmmmm....Sky Sports seem to have forgotten us .... 😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Bear Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 2 hours ago, Yes said: It was outside the top flight but Wolves once averaged 4-5k for a couple years in the 80s. Honestly if you look at the numbers most clubs were struggling in terms of support, including some that you mentioned. Yes the 80s were dark years for Wolves. All the way down to the 4th division and back up again. Attendances were obviously affected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathrow fox Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 5 minutes ago, The Bear said: Yes the 80s were dark years for Wolves. All the way down to the 4th division and back up again. Attendances were obviously affected. Even so 4/5000 in division 4 was unheard of in that period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxile5 Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 Lawrenson is an awful pundit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 5 hours ago, Paninistickers said: Watford, Norwich, QPR, Ipswich were all enjoying the best periods of their history. Forest were too, but averaged a diabolical 18000. Clough regularly used to slag off thier European midweek crowds. We were in a dreadful state. Skint, dreadful stadium, dull Gordon Milne football (he was actually very good but about as popular as Puel) and the ongoing threat of violence. 11,000 in Div 1 and 8,000 in Div2 was the norm. An entire generation was lost. Only 4 or 5 kids IN MY WHOLE SCHOOL YEAR followed City Those halcyon day’s of football in the 1980’s, they’re difficult to describe to the modern football fan, I definitely have rose tinted glasses on when I think back to that time, top flight football under Milne played before 13000 people, but I enjoyed it as a kid growing up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mark 'expert' Lawrenson Posted 20 December 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 20 December 2019 6 minutes ago, foxile5 said: Lawrenson is an awful pundit. I protest at this slur on the best pundit of his generation 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 1 hour ago, David Guiza said: I know it's utter bollocks week in week out, but can the Beeb seriously not find someone who actually watches the games to do this feature? Lawro has us down to lose 2-0 at the weekend, which is a more than fair guess. However his reasoning was a little confusing:- "Manchester United exposed Manchester City's defensive flaws with their fast counter-attacks that helped them win the derby at the start of December. Can Leicester do the same? Well, United had Marcus Rashford, Anthony Martial and Daniel James running at City - with the Foxes, it is really just Jamie Vardy who does that." The bloke just phones it in. Waste of money as a pundit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathrow fox Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 32 minutes ago, Yes said: I wasn’t around then so obviously can’t fully judge but just looking at the numbers for Leeds that wasn’t the case either, they once averaged 13k in div 2 and no more than 17k for a year throughout that period. Don’t get me wrong they’re all higher than us at the time for the most part but it just seems like most clubs had the same issues with attendance in the 80s especially when they dropped into div 2. Take away the 85/86 season and Leeds averaged pretty much around the 19000 mark.Ive checked their history.That and the season before were during the miners strike after all. Im not disputing that crowds were down in the eighties.There are obvious social and economic reasons for that.Just that Leicester’s support wasn’t great,and fans of a certain age who follow your Man City’s etc won’t let us forget it.Really dosern’t bother me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammo Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 2 minutes ago, Corky said: The bloke just phones it in. Waste of money as a pundit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammo Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 Love to know how much they pay Lawro for his weekly crap. Ditto Crooks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Oxlong Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 26 minutes ago, Hammo said: Love to know how much they pay Lawro for his weekly crap. Ditto Crooks. Both of them deserve five fifths of fvck all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worth_the_wait Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 1 hour ago, Heathrow fox said: Even so 4/5000 in division 4 was unheard of in that period. No, it wasn't. Average attendances in the 4th Division (1980-89) ... 1979-80 Portsmouth 15800 Huddersfield Town 8700 Wigan Athletic 5900 Bradford City 5700 Walsall 5500 Newport County 5100 1980-81 Southend Utd 6100 Doncaster Rovers 5400 Lincoln City 4700 1981-82 Sheffield Utd 14900 Bournemouth 5900 Wigan Athletic 5800 1982-83 Hull City 6900 Port Vale 4800 Bristol City 4700 1983-84 Bristol City 7300 York City 5000 Reading 4500 1984-85 Blackpool 4900 1985-86 Swindon Town 6500 1986-87 Preston North End 8100 Northampton Town 6300 Wolverhampton Wanderers 5800 Swansea City 5200 1987-88 Wolverhampton Wanderers 10000 Burnley 6300 Swansea City 4500 1988-89 Burnley 7100 Scunthorpe Utd 4500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathrow fox Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 1 hour ago, worth_the_wait said: No, it wasn't. Average attendances in the 4th Division (1980-89) ... 1979-80 Portsmouth 15800 Huddersfield Town 8700 Wigan Athletic 5900 Bradford City 5700 Walsall 5500 Newport County 5100 1980-81 Southend Utd 6100 Doncaster Rovers 5400 Lincoln City 4700 1981-82 Sheffield Utd 14900 Bournemouth 5900 Wigan Athletic 5800 1982-83 Hull City 6900 Port Vale 4800 Bristol City 4700 1983-84 Bristol City 7300 York City 5000 Reading 4500 1984-85 Blackpool 4900 1985-86 Swindon Town 6500 1986-87 Preston North End 8100 Northampton Town 6300 Wolverhampton Wanderers 5800 Swansea City 5200 1987-88 Wolverhampton Wanderers 10000 Burnley 6300 Swansea City 4500 1988-89 Burnley 7100 Scunthorpe Utd 4500 Whoops my mistake.I always seemed to remember crowds of one man and his dog.Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 Absolutely mad that Wolves averaged less than Northampton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathrow fox Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 33 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: Absolutely mad that Wolves averaged less than Northampton. They won the league that year.I remember Trevor Morley played for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 3 hours ago, Heathrow fox said: Take away the 85/86 season and Leeds averaged pretty much around the 19000 mark.Ive checked their history.That and the season before were during the miners strike after all. Im not disputing that crowds were down in the eighties.There are obvious social and economic reasons for that.Just that Leicester’s support wasn’t great,and fans of a certain age who follow your Man City’s etc won’t let us forget it.Really dosern’t bother me Embarrassed as I am.to say it but the early to mid 80s we suffered from the tigers effect. Crowd trouble and poor on field performance versus,. literally over the road, boozy good natured atmosphere (at that time, anyway) and weekly wins. Tigers had 500-3000 in the early 70s. 10 years later they were on 13000 a week. That must've hit our crowds 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 39 minutes ago, Ted Maul said: Absolutely mad that Wolves averaged less than Northampton. Loved Northampton's old three sided ground at the cricket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boy Linacre Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 On 19/12/2019 at 19:39, davieG said: Man City fan. Eds: Can't stand Leicester as a club, I still remember how small time they were in the 70's, 80's and 90's with pitifully low crowds and s**t away support. They stabbed Ranieri in the back and they have somehow managed to avoid proper FFP despite overspending their way out of the championship. Their title win is still tainted in my eyes as well, I want to smash them by at least four clear goals. Could there ever be a more Pot calling the kettle black than this quote? This Man City fan seems to have some anger issues to me? I don't remember Man City being particularly "big time" during this period, 4 relegations, 1 season in Div 3. Oh yeah, didn't we win 2 trophies between 1971 and 2000, didn't they win 1?? I like to read a good football book, maybe he should,: Richer Than God: Manchester City, Modern Football and Growing Up - "Collapse when it came at the end of the 1970's was self-inflicted, and then the decades passed, mostly in the gloom and several shades of cock-up..........City, of all clubs, are now, suddenly, the club with the richest owner". Oh yeah there is also a chapter called Abu Dhabi United!! Ditto Billionaires Club - James Montague Talking of FPP: Aston Villa, Birmingham C, Bournemouth, Derby, QPR, Sheff Wed etc. the list goes on. Maybe he also forgot or missed this in Nov: Manchester City have failed in an initial bid to have the Court of Arbitration for Sport (Cas) halt Uefa's investigation into a possible breach of Financial Fair Play (FFP) rules. Maybe he thinks the title is tainted because we did at job on them at the Etihad in Feb 16. Obviously letting his emotions get in the way of the facts!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heathrow fox Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 1 hour ago, Paninistickers said: Embarrassed as I am.to say it but the early to mid 80s we suffered from the tigers effect. Crowd trouble and poor on field performance versus,. literally over the road, boozy good natured atmosphere (at that time, anyway) and weekly wins. Tigers had 500-3000 in the early 70s. 10 years later they were on 13000 a week. That must've hit our crowds Yes good point.Proof we aren’t a one club Town.Ive got their equivalent of of Fossils and Foxes somewhere that shows attendances from the era.They also let them play at the same time didn’t they?Both at home.Or with a slight overlap in kick off times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babylon Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 4 hours ago, Corky said: The bloke just phones it in. Waste of money as a pundit. There is a point there. Our wingers are not quick, any pace comes from the full backs, which leaves us wide open then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 18 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said: Yes good point.Proof we aren’t a one club Town.Ive got their equivalent of of Fossils and Foxes somewhere that shows attendances from the era.They also let them play at the same time didn’t they?Both at home.Or with a slight overlap in kick off times. Yeah, frequently we played on the same day with, as you say, slightly staggered kickoffs. Unbelievable now, looking back. Yet seemed normal then. So there was no crossover. You were either Tigers or City. And at a complete guess our crowds were 3k down on what they should've been (so 11k instead of 14k) Knock-off the scumbags from Melton and Loughborough who turned towards forest, that didn't help either. Nor Pockets of Cov in Hinckley. I'd guess 1980s city fans were very much urban Leicester lads. A very different demographic to today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worth_the_wait Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 A few clubs were doing well in the mid 1980's, but attendances were down nationally. Especially so in the Midlands ... you can't exaggerate just how bad it was. The list below shows average league crowds for the 1984-85 season: 1st Division Villa 18289 Forest 16757 City 14530 West Brom 14121 Cov 12791 Stoke 10646 2nd Division Brum 12522 Wolves 8376 3rd Division Derby 10832 (bear in mind Forest's feeble attendances were on the back of a successful 8 year period, when they had finished 1st, 2nd, 5th, 7th, 12th, 5th, 3rd, 9th - won 2 League Cups, and fluked 2 European Cups ) Our home crowds were very poor in the mid 80's, but totally in line with the rest of the Midlands. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boy Linacre Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: Yeah, frequently we played on the same day with, as you say, slightly staggered kickoffs. Unbelievable now, looking back. Yet seemed normal then. So there was no crossover. You were either Tigers or City. And at a complete guess our crowds were 3k down on what they should've been (so 11k instead of 14k) Knock-off the scumbags from Melton and Loughborough who turned towards forest, that didn't help either. Nor Pockets of Cov in Hinckley. I'd guess 1980s city fans were very much urban Leicester lads. A very different demographic to today I was an urban lad, and loved it at the time. Born and brought up on Matthews between the 60's and the 90's, now I come in from the county and the age to match!! Fit the demographic!! Edited 20 December 2019 by The boy Linacre added a line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan LCFC Posted 20 December 2019 Share Posted 20 December 2019 I'm definitely one of those in here to usually read absolute bollocks spouted about us. Can't speak for everyone but it's funny as **** 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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