Heathrow fox Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 38 minutes ago, worth_the_wait said: A few clubs were doing well in the mid 1980's, but attendances were down nationally. Especially so in the Midlands ... you can't exaggerate just how bad it was. The list below shows average league crowds for the 1984-85 season: 1st Division Villa 18289 Forest 16757 City 14530 West Brom 14121 Cov 12791 Stoke 10646 2nd Division Brum 12522 Wolves 8376 3rd Division Derby 10832 (bear in mind Forest's feeble attendances were on the back of a successful 8 year period, when they had finished 1st, 2nd, 5th, 7th, 12th, 5th, 3rd, 9th - won 2 League Cups, and fluked 2 European Cups ) Our home crowds were very poor in the mid 80's, but totally in line with the rest of the Midlands. Those figures would also be helped by the massive away supports of your Evertons,Liverpool,Man U and Even Newcastle.Who bought thousands to Filbo that year,as it was their first game back in division 1.
Yes Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Paninistickers said: Knock-off the scumbags from Melton and Loughborough who turned towards forest, that didn't help either. Nor Pockets of Cov in Hinckley. Always found it grim anyone born and raised in Leicestershire would support Forest/Cov. Don’t know about Hinckley (although Its kind of obvious with Covs position.) but I’m fairly sure support for Forest among younger fans is virtually dead in Melton and Loughborough at least. Edited 21 December 2019 by Yes 3
MattFox Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 Football was on its arse big time in the mid 80’s. Liverpool were only averaging 34,000 in 1985 despite being in the middle of an unprecedented decade of success
sylofox Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 20 minutes ago, Heathrow fox said: Those figures would also be helped by the massive away supports of your Evertons,Liverpool,Man U and Even Newcastle.Who bought thousands to Filbo that year,as it was their first game back in division 1. As every other clubs would have been that season.
srex9 Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 2 hours ago, Babylon said: There is a point there. Our wingers are not quick, any pace comes from the full backs, which leaves us wide open then. Barnes is most definately quick. As is Gray. I agree about Perez though 2
tom27111 Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 1 hour ago, worth_the_wait said: A few clubs were doing well in the mid 1980's, but attendances were down nationally. Especially so in the Midlands ... you can't exaggerate just how bad it was. The list below shows average league crowds for the 1984-85 season: 1st Division Villa 18289 Forest 16757 City 14530 West Brom 14121 Cov 12791 Stoke 10646 2nd Division Brum 12522 Wolves 8376 3rd Division Derby 10832 (bear in mind Forest's feeble attendances were on the back of a successful 8 year period, when they had finished 1st, 2nd, 5th, 7th, 12th, 5th, 3rd, 9th - won 2 League Cups, and fluked 2 European Cups ) Our home crowds were very poor in the mid 80's, but totally in line with the rest of the Midlands. Yet we moan when people say shit things about us
fuchsntf Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 8 hours ago, Hammo said: Love to know how much they pay Lawro for his weekly crap. Ditto Crooks. 8 hours ago, Mike Oxlong said: Both of them deserve five fifths of fvck all 8 hours ago, Corky said: The bloke just phones it in. Waste of money as a pundit. Seems to Keep you all easily entertained.... 3
Heathrow fox Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 5 hours ago, sylofox said: As every other clubs would have been that season. Of course
Babylon Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 5 hours ago, srex9 said: Barnes is most definately quick. As is Gray. I agree about Perez though Gray doesn’t play, and Barnes is hardly a great counter attacker. He ever been involved in a decent counter?
Paninistickers Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 8 hours ago, worth_the_wait said: A few clubs were doing well in the mid 1980's, but attendances were down nationally. Especially so in the Midlands ... you can't exaggerate just how bad it was. The list below shows average league crowds for the 1984-85 season: 1st Division Villa 18289 Forest 16757 City 14530 West Brom 14121 Cov 12791 Stoke 10646 2nd Division Brum 12522 Wolves 8376 3rd Division Derby 10832 (bear in mind Forest's feeble attendances were on the back of a successful 8 year period, when they had finished 1st, 2nd, 5th, 7th, 12th, 5th, 3rd, 9th - won 2 League Cups, and fluked 2 European Cups ) Our home crowds were very poor in the mid 80's, but totally in line with the rest of the Midlands. It's one of the unspoken truths of forest, who.look back on thr80s through sepia glasses, that their support was garbage and Clough regularly slagged off the crowds. (Plus of course, Clough frequently ripped off his own club via inflated transfer fees which he skimmed off the extra and cup final tickets he helped himself to and flogged on the black market) Funny too that they had no firm in the 80s. Nothing. It's silly now but those things were important in the 80s. Yet nowadays they are a tough lot up for trouble now that scene is 30 years out of date!
Captain... Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 8 hours ago, Babylon said: There is a point there. Our wingers are not quick, any pace comes from the full backs, which leaves us wide open then. But he's comparing them to Martial, James and Rashford, not Sterling, Sane, Traore. They do not have express pace. Vardy would have them all on toast. The other thing is the implication is we don't attack in numbers, we get plenty of people forward quickly either on the counter or as part of a high press. We don't just lump balls up to Vardy and hope he does something.
Guest Markyblue Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 58 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: It's one of the unspoken truths of forest, who.look back on thr80s through sepia glasses, that their support was garbage and Clough regularly slagged off the crowds. (Plus of course, Clough frequently ripped off his own club via inflated transfer fees which he skimmed off the extra and cup final tickets he helped himself to and flogged on the black market) Funny too that they had no firm in the 80s. Nothing. It's silly now but those things were important in the 80s. Yet nowadays they are a tough lot up for trouble now that scene is 30 years out of date! I remember taking 3000 odd to a Friday night testimonial for one of their players. Home attendances were pour but we travelled in numbers.
lcfc81 Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 2 hours ago, Babylon said: Gray doesn’t play, and Barnes is hardly a great counter attacker. He ever been involved in a decent counter? I am sure I saw a goal where he ran half the length of the pitch for wba. But you are right, I can't really remember one for us.
Stoopid Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 12 hours ago, Paninistickers said: Embarrassed as I am.to say it but the early to mid 80s we suffered from the tigers effect. Crowd trouble and poor on field performance versus,. literally over the road, boozy good natured atmosphere (at that time, anyway) and weekly wins. Tigers had 500-3000 in the early 70s. 10 years later they were on 13000 a week. That must've hit our crowds Really don't think it was much of a factor. Entirely different crowds - different people. City fans then tended to be almost exclusively urban working-class with a few coming in from the bigger towns in the county. Not great numbers, but (on the whole) young, committed loud and lary. And a decent away following. The Tigers crowd was noticeably more middle-class, older, better-off, rural. (Bit like City fans now, by the way). As I remember it there was actually a bit of antagonism between the two, with Tigers supporters often jeering at City's failures.., Didn't know - or ever hear - of anybody who 'crossed over'.
Guest Markyblue Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 20 minutes ago, Stoopid said: Really don't think it was much of a factor. Entirely different crowds - different people. City fans then tended to be almost exclusively urban working-class with a few coming in from the bigger towns in the county. Not great numbers, but (on the whole) young, committed loud and lary. And a decent away following. The Tigers crowd was noticeably more middle-class, older, better-off, rural. (Bit like City fans now, by the way). As I remember it there was actually a bit of antagonism between the two, with Tigers supporters often jeering at City's failures.., Didn't know - or ever hear - of anybody who 'crossed over'. Spot on. Our support was from Leicester council estates with the fairly decent turn out from coalville melton etc. There was certainly no love lost between us and tigers fans they looked down their noses at us......thankfully times have changed but thats how it was.
Paninistickers Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 50 minutes ago, Markyblue said: I remember taking 3000 odd to a Friday night testimonial for one of their players. Home attendances were pour but we travelled in numbers. Think it was john Robertson's testimonial, long before he had any connection to us as asst manager. I remember us taking 8000 there for the league cup replay. We were briefly a very good second division side under pleat at the time. They were flying under Clough and had too much for us. That game was a rare sell out for them, in the days before their incestuous love with Derby 1
Paninistickers Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 28 minutes ago, Stoopid said: Really don't think it was much of a factor. Entirely different crowds - different people. City fans then tended to be almost exclusively urban working-class with a few coming in from the bigger towns in the county. Not great numbers, but (on the whole) young, committed loud and lary. And a decent away following. The Tigers crowd was noticeably more middle-class, older, better-off, rural. (Bit like City fans now, by the way). As I remember it there was actually a bit of antagonism between the two, with Tigers supporters often jeering at City's failures.., Didn't know - or ever hear - of anybody who 'crossed over'. Tigers fans are not all poshos. I'm convinced we lost a couple of thousand to them. Go to any suburban boozer today in Anstey or Glenfield or Blaby and there'll still be working class middle aged men supporting tigers and droning on about a man's game
Stoopid Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 11 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: Tigers fans are not all poshos. I'm convinced we lost a couple of thousand to them. Go to any suburban boozer today in Anstey or Glenfield or Blaby and there'll still be working class middle aged men supporting tigers and droning on about a man's game Thanks for the invitation - bit I think I'll pass. 1
Popular Post orangecity23 Posted 21 December 2019 Popular Post Posted 21 December 2019 The Guardian has put out their list of 100 best footballers in the world. We have one player in, Vardy, at 48. https://www.theguardian.com/global/ng-interactive/2019/dec/17/the-100-best-male-footballers-in-the-world-2019 No nod for Maddison, Ricardo, Tielemans, Ndidi, Chillwell or Kasper. However, there are places in the list for Harry Kane, Heung Son-Min, Christian Eriksen, Lucas Moura, and, bizarrely, Delle Alli (reason given - been shit this year, but scored a couple over the last few weeks) and Hugo Lloris, a keeper who spent 2019 letting in a shit load of goals, before making a howler so bad he broke his own arm doing it. Classic journalistic Spurs bias. Almost as if the paper is written in London by a load of Spurs supporters. 4 1
Dorkingfox Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 37 minutes ago, Paninistickers said: Tigers fans are not all poshos. I'm convinced we lost a couple of thousand to them. Go to any suburban boozer today in Anstey or Glenfield or Blaby and there'll still be working class middle aged men supporting tigers and droning on about a man's game I do not know what the issue is, they are both Leicester teams, like the cricket and all have been successfull, we should be proud of them all. I still go to Tigers games, always have, especially if I could not get an away ticket for the football. I would always go to the football out of choice, but have seen some great Tigers matches, especially at the away games, you could mingle with the teams after the match, with the home supporters, in the club house, but Gloucester, Bristol and Saracens away was not always pleasant. The match against Exceter today will be a tough one. 1
Dorkingfox Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, orangecity23 said: The Guardian has put out their list of 100 best footballers in the world. We have one player in, Vardy, at 48. https://www.theguardian.com/global/ng-interactive/2019/dec/17/the-100-best-male-footballers-in-the-world-2019 No nod for Maddison, Ricardo, Tielemans, Ndidi, Chillwell or Kasper. However, there are places in the list for Harry Kane, Heung Son-Min, Christian Eriksen, Lucas Moura, and, bizarrely, Delle Alli (reason given - been shit this year, but scored a couple over the last few weeks) and Hugo Lloris, a keeper who spent 2019 letting in a shit load of goals, before making a howler so bad he broke his own arm doing it. Classic journalistic Spurs bias. Almost as if the paper is written in London by a load of Spurs supporters. Yes these lists are total garbage. Edited 21 December 2019 by Dorkingfox 1
Guest Markyblue Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 8 minutes ago, Dorkingfox said: I do not know what the issue is, they are both Leicester teams, like the cricket and all have been successfull, we should be proud of them all. I still go to Tigers games, always have, especially if I could not get an away ticket for the football. I would always go to the football out of choice, but have seen some great Tigers matches, especially at the away games, you could mingle with the teams after the match, with the home supporters, in the club house, but Gloucester, Bristol and Saracens away was not always pleasant. The match against Exceter today will be a tough one. No issue what so ever, i only stated the truth that in the 80s the relationship between city and tigers fans was extremely poor, to state otherwise would be a lie, i also stated that thankfully that has changed, as a Leicester born and bred i want a Leicester team to win at any sport.
st albans fox Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 17 minutes ago, orangecity23 said: The Guardian has put out their list of 100 best footballers in the world. We have one player in, Vardy, at 48. https://www.theguardian.com/global/ng-interactive/2019/dec/17/the-100-best-male-footballers-in-the-world-2019 No nod for Maddison, Ricardo, Tielemans, Ndidi, Chillwell or Kasper. However, there are places in the list for Harry Kane, Heung Son-Min, Christian Eriksen, Lucas Moura, and, bizarrely, Delle Alli (reason given - been shit this year, but scored a couple over the last few weeks) and Hugo Lloris, a keeper who spent 2019 letting in a shit load of goals, before making a howler so bad he broke his own arm doing it. Classic journalistic Spurs bias. Almost as if the paper is written in London by a load of Spurs supporters. Spurs reached the European cup final less than six months ago ........lloris is a World Cup winner from a year ago .... let’s not get overly worked up by irrelevant stuff ......I’m sure the players don’t ........ 2
Heathrow fox Posted 21 December 2019 Posted 21 December 2019 1 hour ago, Paninistickers said: Tigers fans are not all poshos. I'm convinced we lost a couple of thousand to them. Go to any suburban boozer today in Anstey or Glenfield or Blaby and there'll still be working class middle aged men supporting tigers and droning on about a man's game I know exactly the sort you mean.Sadly even they are either dying off or moving away.
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