Time for Puel to go

[lgfualol]

1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

i find it proper weird he has such pro supporters of him, boring football & he's alienated two legends, there's nothing redeemable about him 

I'm not that pro but I am just sick of us going through managers with the same (rumoured) unhappy players that have had the last 2 managers sacked. 

[Crispin LA]

2 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

I'm not that pro but I am just sick of us going through managers with the same (rumoured) unhappy players that have had the last 2 managers sacked. 

Then the board should have done their homework on Puel, he the same issues at Southampton and Nice, his best day's were over towards the end of his term at Nice. 

[turtmcfly]

44 minutes ago, SuperMike said:

I can tell you're getting frustrated!!

In this forum you are not actually allowed an opinion - even though it is pro-city.

If it is not pro-puel they will rip you to shreds! There are 4 posters on here who are so totally committed to M.Claude (and, yes, one has to admire thier loyalty) that they would still adore him if he played Kasper as centre forward, insisted all six defenders tied their laces together and had ' I love Forest' tatooed on his forehead. The blind faith and adulation has reached ridiculous proportions. Two thirds want him gone. The football is turgid. He is NOT the messiah.

Let it go.

 

And yet there you go, 'having an opinion'.

 

I suggest that the only way an opinion can be 'ripped to shreds' is if it's a pile of horse-turd in the first place. Too many posters seem to think that 3 or 4 illogical reasons to get rid of Puel (or at least reasons based on assumptions they have no idea are true - see first my post at the top of this page) add up to 1 logical one. 

 

As for that silly third sentence... I doubt you can name a single poster who has shown anything close to 'adulation' towards him. The best he's getting is 'we're in transition/the squad ain't all that/who's going to come in and do better' type comments which are about acceptance of the boat we're in, not adulation.

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

i find it proper weird he has such pro supporters of him, boring football & he's alienated two legends, there's nothing redeemable about him 

There is nobody on here who is massively pro him, how many people actually sit here saying he's doing an amazing job? Literally everyone knows there are issues that need solving. I'm not pro, I'm just anti people writing stuff like "alienating two legends".

 

He's bang average so far, drifting towards below average. He's got until the summer to sort it for me, or show progression beyond having the right ideas in terms of what he's trying to do. But that's not going to stop me arguing against a load of old shite when it gets posted. 

 

There are too many people on here who don't like him and just can't see anything from any other perspective at all. He can literally do no right and people grasp at things and have to turn everything into a Puel issue. It's mostly bollocks, it's not needed. The performances are enough for me to understand anyone not wanting him, personally I'd give him to the end of the season for numerous reasons, but I can accept people wanting more form the team. There is just no need to go looking for problems with him and creating them from nothing. 

[winteriscoming]

10 minutes ago, Crispin LA said:

Then the board should have done their homework on Puel, he the same issues at Southampton and Nice, his best day's were over towards the end of his term at Nice. 

You mean his last season at Nice where they finished 4th. Where he finished in the top 4 twice. 

[SuperMike]

18 minutes ago, turtmcfly said:

 

And yet there you go, 'having an opinion'.

 

I suggest that the only way an opinion can be 'ripped to shreds' is if it's a pile of horse-turd in the first place. Too many posters seem to think that 3 or 4 illogical reasons to get rid of Puel (or at least reasons based on assumptions they have no idea are true - see first my post at the top of this page) add up to 1 logical one. 

 

As for that silly third sentence... I doubt you can name a single poster who has shown anything close to 'adulation' towards him. The best he's getting is 'we're in transition/the squad ain't all that/who's going to come in and do better' type comments which are about acceptance of the boat we're in, not adulation.

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[SuperMike]

Boring Boring Boring.

[HighPeakFox]

Ah, the 'boring' trope, wheeled out whenever anyone says something constructive, reasonable and thought out.

[SuperMike]

I'm sorry but I do find this blind faith in Puel, and whatever degradations he loads onto our wonderful club, tedious to the nth degree. So, yes, boring boring boring.

[HighPeakFox]

Again, nobody has 'blind faith'. I, like @Babylon and many others, accept he has faults and things are far from perfect....just right now, we happen not to think that ditching Puel is the right thing to do. You do, and that's fine, I don't have an issue with that. I do have an issue with people choosing to be divisive about it, on either side.

 

[Fox85]

1 hour ago, winteriscoming said:

You mean his last season at Nice where they finished 4th. Where he finished in the top 4 twice. 

Legue 1 is a much different kettle of fish to premier league so that's probably like a 12th place finish in the prem.

[Gazza M]

I'm very torn on this subject. Two weeks ago I was very much in the Puel in brigade. I was prepared to give him time thinking that the top half is a formality with the players we have.

Like many people my opinion switched after Palace. Just so clueless. A wake up call for sure. Should be stamping our authority all over a fixture like that. 

 

[foxile5]

The thing that has bothered me the most is the apathy towards the quarter final. 

[m4DD0gg]

Tepid, bland, boring, uninspiring, weak, illogical and naive.

 

All perfect words to sum up Puels tenure as manager.

[Mike Oxlong]

6 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

Tepid, bland, boring, uninspiring, weak, illogical and naive.

 

All perfect words to sum up ......

this post 

[m4DD0gg]

3 minutes ago, Mike Oxlong said:

this post 

[Mike Oxlong]

2 minutes ago, m4DD0gg said:

[foxile5]

Just now, Mike Oxlong said:

Ahhhahahahaha not enough plus ones.

[volpeazzurro]

3 hours ago, The Horse's Mouth said:

i find it proper weird he has such pro supporters of him, boring football & he's alienated two legends, there's nothing redeemable about him 

I can't see anywhere any tangible evidence that anyone has alienated anyone else,  unless people are trying to read anything into something that Vardy said that isn't actually there.

[gurru991]

I like Puels plan for the club, phasing out older players & making the team younger but it is hard to like the kind of football he appears to endorse. I think he would be a better DoF than a manager.

[Crispin LA]

 

4 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

I like Puels plan for the club, phasing out older players & making the team younger but it is hard to like the kind of football he appears to endorse. I think he would be a better DoF than a manager.

I kind of think your right, he would be better suited to the role of DOF as he is would ideal as a systems builder rather than a manager of people which he just can't do. Just need to move Rudkin on! 

[RODNEY FERNIO]

9 minutes ago, gurru991 said:

I like Puels plan for the club, phasing out older players & making the team younger but it is hard to like the kind of football he appears to endorse. I think he would be a better DoF than a manager.

What like his phasing out of Wes Morgan … the oldest player on the books? 

[The Doctor]

1 minute ago, RODNEY FERNIO said:

What like his phasing out of Wes Morgan … the oldest player on the books? 

The guy who's got 6 months left on his contract and been missed while key players were getting new contracts left right and centre?

[RODNEY FERNIO]

1 minute ago, The Doctor said:

The guy who's got 6 months left on his contract and been missed while key players were getting new contracts left right and centre?

He's 35 in January FFS … suppose you are an advocate of the Peter Taylor style of management 

where Matty Elliot got a massive contract until he was 38.

[Raw Dykes]

1 hour ago, SuperMike said:

I'm sorry but I do find this blind faith in Puel, and whatever degradations he loads onto our wonderful club, tedious to the nth degree. So, yes, boring boring boring.

It's not blind faith, though, is it?

 

I get it. The results and performances are not as good as they should be. The style of football is very bland and cautious. It seems to me that Puel struggles to motivate his team.

 

I'm far from his biggest fan. However, I still think the pros outweigh the cons regarding keeping him for now. We're in no real danger of relegation, Puel is doing a very good job at developing the club's young players, our business in the summer transfer window was excellent, a bit of stability goes a long way, and also, there's hardly a glut of good alternatives queueing up to take the job should he leave. I think it's also important to consider the fact that we have a bloated squad with a lot of expensive players who are of no use to us. We can expect to see a better squad once some of these can be shipped out and the wage bill is trimmed down.

 

We're in a period of transition, and we are for once in a position where we can afford to give some time to a manager to work on their project. Granted, I'm sure he's not many people's first choice for being the manager we let stamp their authority on the team, but let's consider the realistic alternatives, and also whether we trust the club to actually sign the ones we'd prefer, if indeed there are any at all. Trust me, we could be doing far worse.

 

I don't think I've seen anyone over-praising Puel or having a blind loyalty to him. I've only seen people acknowledge the things he has got right and realistic fears over what will happen if he is sacked.