fleckneymike Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Since Puel’s arrival, which existing squad players have improved?
Max Wall Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 10 minutes ago, fleckneymike said: Since Puel’s arrival, which existing squad players have improved? Apparently, Crystal Palace's players have improved no end since he arrived.
StriderHiryu Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Chilwell is the poster boy, he’s come on leaps and bounds. Gray IMO has improved but nowhere near as much. Mendy was the forgotten man so I’d count that as improvement. Vardy also improved despite not scoring as many as last season. His all round game is much better now. But overall as a team as the league table shows we have not improved.
Quorn_fox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 On the flip side, which players have definitely regressed since he arrived? I would say only Ndidi. You could make a case for Vardy (this season) but injury and suspension haven’t helped.
Fox92 Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Chilwell mainly but there's shouts for Mendy who could've easily been shipped out.
deanolegend1989 Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Not sure about improved but in the squad, Vardy, Madders, Gray, Albrighton, Schmicheal, Morgan, Evans and chillwell are all worthy of a place. The rest are either underperforming or not good enough
volpeazzurro Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Some were never going to improve because they were ill bought, unsuitable and low in compatability for the Premiership before Puel even arrived. You can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear and you can't play champagne and oyster football with beer and chips players. Until we've cleared some of our dross out and renewed the squad I think most managers would struggle in fairness, unless Sir Alex feels like coming out of retirement, even then much above halfway would be unrealistic with this lot, too many blue tinted glasses.
Corky Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Chilwell, Amartey, Vardy was very clinical last season but not so much this time.
Stoopid Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Players have to take some responsibility for their own improvement. Attitude is so important. Maddison's ability is obvious, but his brattishness is hampering him. Taking him off at half-time was absolutely the right call. I believe most players will improve under this manager, if they meet him at least half-way. At the moment, that doesn't seem to be happening.
VLC86 Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 3 minutes ago, Stoopid said: Players have to take some responsibility for their own improvement. Attitude is so important. Maddison's ability is obvious, but his brattishness is hampering him. Taking him off at half-time was absolutely the right call. I believe most players will improve under this manager, if they meet him at least half-way. At the moment, that doesn't seem to be happening. Maddisons brattishness? Any evidence to back this up?
ithuriel Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Chilwell and Mendy are the only two that have improved from what I have seen, Amartey has been in and out of the side far too much and has blown hot and cold.
J.Lisemore Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Mendy hasn’t improved. He’s just being given game time.
VLC86 Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 2 minutes ago, J.Lisemore said: Mendy hasn’t improved. He’s just being given game time. And playing next to someone who can tackle for him.
LCCFox96 Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Amartey has definitely improved in the right back role since Puel came in. Unfortunate he got a horror injury just as he was starting to play consistently well. Others include Chilwell, Gray and Mendy. Also think Maguire has got better on the ball but that could easily be accredited to confidence from his time with England as well.
Stoopid Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 7 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: Maddisons brattishness? Any evidence to back this up? His embarrassing dive, his reaction after the Spurs game, his tendency to go missing when things aren't going his way... Just think his England call-up and increased attention of being in the Prem has gone to his head a tiny bit. Still think he can be a great player though.
J.Lisemore Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 2 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: And playing next to someone who can tackle for him. Exactly, If it were my choice I’d ship Mendy out in January, him and Ndidi together is just embarrassing.
VLC86 Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 1 minute ago, Stoopid said: His embarrassing dive, his reaction after the Spurs game, his tendency to go missing when things aren't going his way... Just think his England call-up and increased attention of being in the Prem has gone to his head a tiny bit. Still think he can be a great player though. His dive was stupid and rather than act like a brat he didn’t protest and apologised.
lcfcsnow Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Just Chilwell. Gray certainly hasn’t in any way, he still has no composure, runs into trouble, makes the wrong choice pretty much every time, or the right choice too late.
Stoopid Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 2 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said: His dive was stupid and rather than act like a brat he didn’t protest and apologised. Agreed, and that shows he has some basic decency. Don't think it invalidates my view though. Just think he could be so much better. As could the team in general. Hard to be too critical given recent events. But at some point the team, and not just him, has to take some responsibility for the disappointing level of performance.
UniFox21 Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 8 minutes ago, lcfcsnow said: Just Chilwell. Gray certainly hasn’t in any way, he still has no composure, runs into trouble, makes the wrong choice pretty much every time, or the right choice too late. Disagree, think he's a significantly bigger contribution lately. Seen him run length or half the length of a pitch to make tackles and track back. His decision making is still missing, but he's improved.
foxfanazer Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Chilwell, and massively so. Could probably say Mendy and Amartey have shown improvement also
Xen Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Chilwell (obviously), Mendy, and Amartey (still learning, but looked like he was settling before his injury). Could argue Gray has improved as well. Ndidi definitely seems to have regressed. Morgan's age seems to be catching up with him but he's just about maintaining his usual standard. Schmeichel's distribution seems worse too, although its been poor for a while.
Crinklyfox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 It's a good question but difficult to assess when we have some players out of form, some without the necessary determination and application and some who look like they're not going to achieve the standard required. At present we're not 'clicking' as a team and that can make even the better players look ordinary.
sylofox Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 I'm not sure what people are judging the Mendy improvement against. We've seen nothing of him until this season.
Matt Posted 16 December 2018 Posted 16 December 2018 Chilwell, Mendy, but is that just a natural progression? Obviously Puel has gave them that chance, that platform and you have to credit him for that but is the improvement necessarily down to him? Could be debated till we go round in circles like everything I guess.
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