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Fulham Fan In Peace - Ranieri and How

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Always felt Jokanovic had a touch of Nige about him; they'd be closer now for sure but they completely ****ed it up in the summer by throwing huge sums of money at any available player. 

 

Claudio did similar at Nantes like he did with us. Sergio Conceicao had saved them the season previous and their form was still solid, started the season well. Then went into some awful 11 men behind the ball tactic. 

 

He was superb at keeping the pressure off during our title winning season and just allowing things to grow. 

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To be honest I’m not sure many of us really know what happened.

As far as I saw it:

1. We had the best central midfielder in the world at the time at doing what he does

2. Mahrez and Vardy had that intuitive understanding of each other’s game

3. We stayed mainly fit

4. We had players just reaching their prime 

5. We were still bouyed at the fact we’d stayed up

6. God loved us

7. Ranners left us alone. The tinker man didn’t do much tinkering.

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Also his in game substitutions were always spot on...

 

Bringing on Ulloa to score against Norwich in the last minute.

The Dyer substitution to make it 3-2 against Villa.

King on at half time away at Watford when we were losing the midfield battle. 

 

All key moments in our season and i’m  sure there are plenty of other examples.

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My honest perception was we continued from the season before with maximum confidence. The first match of the season against Sunderland if you recall was before the change of full backs and was without the newly signed Kante. I was in the posh seats next to two Sunderland scouts who said to me  either you have suddenly turned into Barcelona or we are total garbage. Has it happened there was a bit of truth in both.

Ranieri tweaked but didn’t tinker and kept the fire stoked up. With  Kante that season it was almost cheating and like playing with 12 men. Another factor was because the big teams and most of the others thought it was little old Leicester we won’t change how we play and kept a suicidal high line and that lesson that season was never learnt.

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1 hour ago, TheUltimateWinner said:

The year we won it was a perfect storm, good momentum and squad from Pearsons previous season, good recruitment in the summer from Steve Walsh and good man management and tactics from Ranieri, playing to our strengths and not really changing much behind the scenes.

 

Season after he apparently started changing things, messed with our formation and we didn't really have a settled squad (there was an article about how in one game he spent the week before in training preparing for a match with one system and then on the day of the game changed it). He also binned off a few important staff members. If he wasn't sacked I genuinely believe we would have been relegated, he didn't know how to turn a bad streak around. 

This is spot on. Ranieri was essentially the cherry on top of the cake. His happy go lucky relaxed attitude was the perfect tonic for an already strong backbone. The club already had an amazing set up with professionals covering all aspects of the team, from in depth match analysis to new recovery and conditioning ideas. It was probably comparable to the Big Bang it just so happened that all of the right elements were present to create a miracle. 

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Claudio deserves massive credit for our title win. His tweaks and man management was truly superb.  It was like we brought the best out of each other.

 

The second season was a debacle although I think our recruitment that season was truly dire. A little like it was with Fulham, actually.  We actually played a midfield two of King and Amartey for large swathes of the season which is a combo fit for the championship. I think our appalling recruitment  (which wasn't all Claudio's fault: many of the players were long term targets) coupled with Claudio's tendency to tinker did it. He wanted to change our style (guessing, perhaps correctly, that other teams would find us out and negate us) but didn't have the personnel and without the right personnel that excerbated his worst tendencies as a manager. I can't help but think if our recruitment was better Claudio would have stayed. But I think,  as others say, once a team is in a bad trott his tendency to tinkee gets the better of him.

 

Such a shame. Selfishly I wanted him to come to the KP. I'm sure we would have cheered for him. I'll always love him. For one season we got Claudio at his best. He was the perfect man for the job. But once it went downhill he didn't have the capacity to arrest the slide. 

 

Sorry about you guys. I was rooring for you to stay up.  My brother lived three mins from your stadium for many years so I've always had a soft spot for Fulham. Hope you bounce back soon.

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I’m sad to see Raineri sacked. To sack him as manager of Fulham after 3 months is ridiculous.

 

If any Fulham fan thinks they should be easily staying safe they need a reality check.

 

promotion via the playoffs, a whole new squad, 2 managers this season, with the most recent working largely with what he’s inherited.

 

ranieri was a god for us. Yes many other factors were right. The back room team was spot on, the core of the squad were full of good personalities and grafters, they followed instructions, we also had quite a bit of luck. But you can’t take away that spark ranieri gave us, the tweaks he made were spot on. Vardy had nowhere near the impact on under Pearson and if I remember right was actually largely used as a sub out wide in the great escape season for example?

 

yes Pearson put the team together, but was pretty clueless tactically. We saw a tactical change under ranieri that played to our strengths.

 

Yes it went sour the season after, personally I think the title win went to the players heads a bit.

 

the situation at Fulham is different though, the squad is nowhere near as strong and balanced despite having a few very good players.

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ranieri should get huge credit. but the pundits and other fans gave him ALL the credit(because he played the nice silly man in interviews) so people warmed to him. what people didn't understand was the already good team he had in place, and the form of the season before going into the 15/16 campaign. he could pick the same team every week too because there were barely any injuries so he was lucky on that front. the only thing i can remember him actually changing was bringing in simpson for de laet. you couldn't really see how well HE did because he really didn't need to do much. we seen it the season after, though.

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1 hour ago, ThaiFox said:

 

Both spot on posts.

 

The other point I would add is that our play deteriorated quickly as our title season went on, although this may be understandable under the pressure of going for the title. However, once the next season started and we lost a few games, and badly, Ranieri clearly could not arrest the slide.

 

He was a very strange appointment for Fulham. It was a very strange job to take for Ranieri. 

 

 

I also think the season after winning the title we became THE team to beat and teams tried a lot harder to win against us to prove something

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Ranieri had the media in the palm of his hand.

He handled that side brilliantly considering the exposure that comes with a small club taking the league by storm.

The rest was luck.

Lucky we had the 3 best players in the league, lucky we didnt get fined for pumping our lads full of steroids and scraping the title by a measly 10 points.

 

 

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He was an excellent figurehead and showman but a terrible manager :) he did great job of taking the pressure of the media off the players and we wouldn't have won the title without him, it's a shame we won't see him back at KP, probably be Puel now, but I doubt anyone can save Fulham ? 

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I was there when Mullery scored that goal of the century in the FACup. Hope that Fulham stay up, Syd. We did it from a similar position in 2014/15. I can think of other clubs that I'd rather get relegated than Fulham. Good luck.

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I'm not surprised that he's absolutely bombed since winning the league with us, his 2nd season here really showed his limitations and he's got an extremely short term mindset. Never was an outstanding manager - rather a very lucky one to inherit the position he walked into here. Great strong team ethic, gems like Vardy and Kanté brought in by our head scout, brilliant sports science team put together. Also a perfect storm that season in all the top teams having an off year. He did his best to rip that all up.

 

What you can say, is he is savvy - he did manage the situation he inherited at LCFC extraordinarily well and was smart to realise that not much needed changing.

 

Lots of LCFC fans can't bring themselves to admit this because of all the emotions involved, but deep down I think we all know that Pearson and his assistants contributed more than Ranieri to our title win.

 

 

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