Fulham Fan In Peace - Ranieri and How

[Dr The Singh]

This is what happens when there are shit pizza places in town

[420Hashish]

Ranieri had nothing to do with the title win. It was the blessing of recovering the dead body of an old English king in Leicester that gave the club good fortune in the league.

[Russell sprout]

I’m kinda glad he failed,not out of spite but because I don’t want him to emulate what he achieved with us with someone else

[Anglodanglo]

5 hours ago, Syd Cupp said:

Hello To all, Fulham Fan In Peace here or pieces after last nights match.

A post was placed on the Friends of Fulham forum about Leicester and Ranieri,

My question is was it CR tactics that helped create the amazing feat of Leicester winning the prem (This gave hope to any club) or was there more going on

in the background etc  As for myself I can not fathom out what this guy does or in yourselves case did.?

 

Best wishes for the remainder of the season

 

http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?topic=70320.0

 

For a total root and stem rebuild job, there's not many better than Pearson. 

He came in during our darkest era and completely rebuilt the team culture of Leicester.

When he left the first time the squad he'd built soon struggled. He came back & finished the job. Make no mistake - there would have been no title miracle without the foundations he laid over a few seasons.

 

He can be one antagonistic son of a gun and headstrong, but can (as proven with us) work wonders given time and patience. Unfortunately this isn't a commodity granted much anymore.

 

Like many, I have a fondness for Fulham and wish your team all the best. 

[whoareyaaa]

Would we have done it if Pearson didn't get sacked who knows? Possibly not as he may have played different players/formations etc.. Ranieri commaned the respect of the team as he was a well known manager  have been at a lot of big clubs along with players hitting there peak and additions like Kante and Fuschs it all came together, one thing we can say is Pearson and his staff played a key role in the build up and it wouldn't have happened without them. 

[Spudulike]

1 hour ago, Wortho said:

I was at that game as well. Wasn't it 1-1?

Yes, it was. Glover for us. We won the replay 2-1 at Filbert Street.

[Gazza M]

Time for Claudio to retire I think....

[Crispin LA]

Fulham should hire Pearson, they may achieve a great escape 

[Johnthefoxrayner]

6 hours ago, Dames said:

As others have mentioned he came into the perfect situation in regards to momentum and excellent recruitment. He did get us playing 4-4-2 which suited the team to the ground but it was only possible because of how he let Kante play. No other player in world football would have made the same impact as N'Golo did that season, not even Messi. Again as others mentioned his personality and the way he handled the media helped keep the spotlight and pressure off the players.

 

As soon as Kante left it was evident that he did not have a clear and confident plan to replace him and he went full tinkerman. It was obvious he couldn't trust the team to press without Kante and the more that second season in charge went on the more defensive the team became, towards the end we were pretty much a route one football team.

 

The media and the outside world slated us but those who watched us week in week out knew it was the right decision, as hard as it was. There was also rumours that he changed a lot between the scenes after the title win including overhauling our sports science department in favour of a more 'traditional' approach. I've always been inclined to believe this because the team have looked nowhere near as fit since the title winning season.

 

As for Fulham I always thought it was a strange appointment and they were probably hoping he'd bring some magic with him but sadly I think he's all out.

I was shocked when CR  took the Fulham job, no disrespect to Fulham  but did anyone believe he could work his magic again, 

[smr]

I think if Pearson was still managing in 15/16 he would have won us the league... maybe.

 

Then again, a season is a long time. 10 months. Away and home. Cold, rainy, frosty days turned into warm spring sunshine. Its a heck of a ride but you feel it when youve got something riding on it.

 

What Ranieri brought was humility and he was a mastercraftsman at dealing with the media, shunning any pressure whatsover away from the players. He would play and at times toy with the media, laughing and joking and making he himself the centre of attention, not the players. 

 

This was his mastery I thought and how I always remember him during that season.

 

But that isnt to say that he cannot coach. We had brilliant players who were all in the form of their lives. But someone had to call the shots on substitutions, tactics and game strategy. And did he do it well......

 

I think Ranieri has a style more suited to a team with stability, whereas teams of Fulham's ilk, this season for example, you'd be better off with a character like Sam Allardyce.

 

I was surprised at Claudio taking the job on, but not surprised at all it ended like this for him.

[Fox In The Box 90]

Claudios role as usual being massively downplayed and Pearsons role being massively overplayed.

[Arriba Los Zorros]

2 minutes ago, Fox In The Box 90 said:

Claudios role as usual being massively downplayed and Pearsons role being massively overplayed.

Rubbish, it's only being widely recognised at last, not just by City fans but the wider football community too. Good.

[ThingsCouldGetMessi]

I feel like I'm the only person not surprised that Claudio has been sacked. He was brought in by Fulham to try and achieve Premier League survival. Their defeat last night to Southampton means they are now 10 points adrift of safety and still have only 17 points. The Fulham board can clearly see at this stage that relegation Is inevitable and they might as well start planning ahead of their drop back to the Championship for next season. 

[HighPeakFox]

What was put in place by Pearson and all his team was absolutely superb, and to try and suggest he had little to do with winning the league is to treat football as though it stops in May and has nothing to do with the following August.

[Langston]

Can't we just concede that Pearson and Ranieri both contributed enormously to our title win? Why does it have to be a contest?

 

It's one of the most tiring arguments on here.

[Nickfosse]

Would never have won the league with Pearson.  Would never have won it without him. 

[Livid]

Ranieri knew when to change it, dropping De Laet and Schlupp for Fuchs and Simpson was spot on. Pearson would have persisted for about another two months before getting it. 

 

He wasn't afraid to change it at half time if it wasn't working. You could set your watch by Pearson's second half substitutions 

 

Of course the stars aligned, everyone else had an iffy season and we unearthed one of the best midfielders in the world but we wouldn't have done it without Ranieri.

 

 

[Nickfosse]

4 hours ago, Bob Hazels shorts said:

Some excellent posts and takes on Claudios time at Leicester.

 

Club chairman could do a lot worse than seek the opinions of fans from previous clubs in regards managers and player.

I appreciate it hardly going to happen. 

 

Chatting to the better informed Southampton fans before our last game and the only difference was there accent and shirt colour

What? Were they saying what an excellent job he did transforming an ageing one dimensional team whose key player had left, and most talented player had gone on strike and eventually left, into a young exciting team trying to find ways of breaking down teams who leave little space for us to counter attack into?

[The whole world smiles]

12 minutes ago, Nickfosse said:

Would never have won the league with Pearson.  Would never have won it without him. 

Summed it up brilliantly mate. Pearson was buckling under the pressure by September of his first prem season strangling players, abusing reporters and swearing at fans. 

 

How do you think he would have coped with the pressure cooker of the title race with spurs breathing down our necks (if he ever got us anywhere near it!).

 

Claudio the wily old dog put an absolute master class in deflecting pressure on his players and managing expectations.

 

That being said Nigel was brilliant here and laid some incredible foundations.

[mad biker]

7 hours ago, yorkie1999 said:

Put it like this, if james Pearson hadn’t got caught getting a rim job from a Thai hooker, ranieri wouldn’t have got a look in

And we would NOT have won the Premier leaghe !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[The whole world smiles]

Claudio was a Winston Churchill style manager. Had a pretty average career. Made some big mistakes but for one brief and very important moment in history his skill set and personality was absolutely perfect for the job in hand and he achieved something truly remarkable and ultimately that's what he will be remembered for.

[Nickfosse]

1 minute ago, The whole world smiles said:

Claudio was a Winston Churchill style manager. Had a pretty average career. Made some big mistakes but for one brief and very important moment in history his skill set and personality was absolutely perfect for the job in hand and he achieved something truly remarkable and ultimately that's what he will be remembered for.

That’s a brilliant analogy 

[Fox In The Box 90]

Just now, Arriba Los Zorros said:

Rubbish, it's only being widely recognised at last, not just by City fans but the wider football community too. Good.

How do you know how ANY of the players like Kante would have played under Pearson?

 

Obviously he built the squad but he didnt manage them to the title.

 

And since then hes basically done an awful job in all his other jobs.

 

Anyway whats the point in arguing. We won the league. All that matters

[KingsX]

1 hour ago, Crispin LA said:

Fulham should hire Pearson, they may achieve a great escape 

Can you see Pearson working for an owner who throws wads of cash at the wall for an all-offense insta-squad, and allows his neophyte kid to foist the players on the manager?  Might work for a situation comedy.  Not in the real world.

[Vindaloo FOX]

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