Deeg67 Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 He performed well there and seemed happy, so all in all a decent result for Silva. Hopefully this one results in a permanent sale. He's a good footballer as he proved after he went to Monaco, and a good bloke as well. Deserves a better hand than he's been dealt. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out Foxed Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 8 hours ago, Gerard said: I'd take the loan too rather him being here well down the pecking order picking up a wage and not offering much. I don't mind selling for a loss as that's the game, some you win like Maguire and some you lose. It's annoying that we have the same deadwood year in year out and we just have to wait for their contracts to expire to get rid of them. Slimani, Silva, King, James and no doubt Ghezzal in the coming years. It's why I was pissed off with the Ghezzal signing before he even came here, I never understood why we just couldn't loan him with a set fee option to buy. Monaco had no other suitors for him and wanted rid of him. It should have been an easy loan just like Monaco loaning Slimani is an easy loan. It just goes to show how important recruitment is and you get punished twice for buying poor players. Not only are you stung on the fee you struggle to sell them on for a loss. The problem is with clubs like ours and the wages we play then you can't move a player downwards. Lesser clubs than ours just can't afford them so we should put more money into recruitment just to get it right. ghezzal deal was clearly some agent shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 31 minutes ago, Out Foxed said: ghezzal deal was clearly some agent shit I suspect so and one hopes no one from our end was involved it you have to wonder sometimes .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 10 hours ago, Gerard said: Monaco probably take us for mugs. They make a big profit on Tielemans after being a bit of a flop there. They get Ghezzal on a free, he totally bombs and we pay £12m for him when there are zero other suitors. They get Silva on loan and he performs like a star. Instead of buying him they just loan him again. They also loan our £30m striker. I'm not complaining about buying Tielemans or loaning Slimani but just like Sporting it's a one way street. Yes but you forget that the two players we have sent to them are absolute shit and Youri is probably our best player. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 1 hour ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Yes but you forget that the two players we have sent to them are absolute shit and Youri is probably our best player. Silva was often reckoned their best player by their fans over the last 10 games of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 14 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: Silva was often reckoned their best player by their fans over the last 10 games of the season. Maybe so, but he's no good for us so it's not like they've taken anyone off us that we're going to miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CollinsLCFC Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 Silva is to us what Tielemans was to Monaco. Both clearly have quality but couldnt find that form for their parent club. Silva was clearly a panic buy at the time. We only signed him as a 'quick' replacement for DD, which didnt materialise in time and as a result Silva lost 6 months of competitive football. When he did get in he didnt hit the ground running which is needed in the PL but seemed to refind his form in Ligue 1. He came, he didnt conquer and he moves on. Wish him the best 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deeg67 Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 2 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Maybe so, but he's no good for us so it's not like they've taken anyone off us that we're going to miss. So that makes him, in your words, "absolute shit"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 19 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: So that makes him, in your words, "absolute shit"? In context of the Premier League, yes. Stand out candidate for LCFC's worst ever signing imo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 30 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: In context of the Premier League, yes. Stand out candidate for LCFC's worst ever signing imo. Err.....Matt Mills, Trevor Benjamin, Denis Wise etc etc. Plenty of better qualified candidates for that title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol thewall Bamba Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 49 minutes ago, PaulW said: Err.....Matt Mills, Trevor Benjamin, Denis Wise etc etc. Plenty of better qualified candidates for that title. Not for the amount of money we paid there aren't. I'd rather sign a flop like Matt Mills for 5 million than a flop like Silva for 5x the amount. Pound for pound he's easily the worst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Not for the amount of money we paid there aren't. I'd rather sign a flop like Matt Mills for 5 million than a flop like Silva for 5x the amount. Pound for pound he's easily the worst. FV Edited 23 August 2019 by Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFC hub Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 When they take Ghezzal on loan too 😱 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 (edited) Edited 23 August 2019 by Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 25 minutes ago, Steven said: £5,630,812.10 is the amount to buy Mat Mills at £5 million when we bought Silva. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 17 hours ago, Gerard said: Monaco probably take us for mugs. They make a big profit on Tielemans after being a bit of a flop there. They get Ghezzal on a free, he totally bombs and we pay £12m for him when there are zero other suitors. They get Silva on loan and he performs like a star. Instead of buying him they just loan him again. They also loan our £30m striker. I'm not complaining about buying Tielemans or loaning Slimani but just like Sporting it's a one way street. I can't argue with much of that, but I still think that Tielemans was a steal at £35m or £40m, whichever reported fee is correct. It's a coup for us. As for Slim and Silva, the trouble is that no one else wants them, probably down to wages and the fact that they are both in their thirties. A loan is the best we can do. Does anybody know the terms regarding fees and % wages we have to pay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphy Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 (edited) 17 hours ago, Gerard said: I'd take the loan too rather him being here well down the pecking order picking up a wage and not offering much. I don't mind selling for a loss as that's the game, some you win like Maguire and some you lose. It's annoying that we have the same deadwood year in year out and we just have to wait for their contracts to expire to get rid of them. Slimani, Silva, King, James and no doubt Ghezzal in the coming years. This will be unpopular (again) but Perez will be the next one. 17 hours ago, Gerard said: It's why I was pissed off with the Ghezzal signing before he even came here, I never understood why we just couldn't loan him with a set fee option to buy. Monaco had no other suitors for him and wanted rid of him. It should have been an easy loan just like Monaco loaning Slimani is an easy loan. It just goes to show how important recruitment is and you get punished twice for buying poor players. Not only are you stung on the fee you struggle to sell them on for a loss. The problem is with clubs like ours and the wages we play then you can't move a player downwards. Lesser clubs than ours just can't afford them so we should put more money into recruitment just to get it right. Punished more than twice I'd say as you also leave the team without the improvements that you need and then you have to shell out again and buy twice to hopefully get it right at the next opportunity. Edit - I'm in a bad mood because of the cricket. Edited 23 August 2019 by murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 7 minutes ago, murphy said: This will be unpopular (again) but Perez will be the next one. Punished more than twice I'd say as you also leave the team without the improvements that you need and then you have to shell out again and buy twice to hopefully get it right at the next opportunity. Edit - I'm in a bad mood because of the cricket. I'm very happy with the Tielemans and justin signings. Tielemans is proven in our side and should be a good example of buy proven quality and you buy once. Justin is another I'm happy with as he's young and even if he fails you can still sell him. My mate seen him at the Rotherham friendly and said he was the best player on the pitch. Praet also seems like a good signing as he improves the squad in a position we had two excellent No8's but a huge drop off in personnel to replace them. I was a bit meh about the Perez signing and still am but he has got goals in this league so the jury is still out as far as I'm concerned. Ideally I'd have liked us to persist with the 4-1-4-1 formation and the first choice wide forwards/wingers being Harvey Barnes and the best wide forward/winger we could get. That wouldn't have been Perez for me as he's not dynamic enough nor can he take a game by the scruff of the neck. He might be one of those players who looks like he doesn't do much but by the end of the season he has 10 goals and 6 assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cal21212121 Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 3 hours ago, Sol thewall Bamba said: Not for the amount of money we paid there aren't. I'd rather sign a flop like Matt Mills for 5 million than a flop like Silva for 5x the amount. Pound for pound he's easily the worst. I'd say Mills was worse, partially due to the league we were in and the state of the transfer market at the time, but also because when Nige came in we literally couldn't play him without having to pay out more to Reading and he wasn't deemed worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 34 minutes ago, cal21212121 said: I'd say Mills was worse, partially due to the league we were in and the state of the transfer market at the time, but also because when Nige came in we literally couldn't play him without having to pay out more to Reading and he wasn't deemed worth it. Is that right? Not saying it's not true, but I'm pretty sure NP froze him out as he had too much influence over the squad, and was disruptive. Made him train with the kids, I think. I don't think he would have played again even if we didn't owe Reading a fee for an apps clause. Bolton took most of our bomb squad off us, didn't they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tielemans63 Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 1 hour ago, Raw Dykes said: Is that right? Not saying it's not true, but I'm pretty sure NP froze him out as he had too much influence over the squad, and was disruptive. Made him train with the kids, I think. I don't think he would have played again even if we didn't owe Reading a fee for an apps clause. Bolton took most of our bomb squad off us, didn't they? Didn't they take both Beckford and Danns as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 24 minutes ago, Paddy. said: Didn't they take both Beckford and Danns as well? Yes, I think they did. Wish they had some cash right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 I was convinced BRodge was gonna like Silva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodsey1727 Posted 23 August 2019 Share Posted 23 August 2019 Is there going to be the option of a permanent deal at the end of the loan like with slimani, I hope so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TJB-fox Posted 23 August 2019 Popular Post Share Posted 23 August 2019 Ironic that our recruitment is slated yet it’s arguably our recruitment that has got us where we are today. The club aren’t going to get every single signing right. Nobody does. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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