Adrien Silva

[Claridge]

15 minutes ago, Uncle Monty said:

Jesus Chris, people are using National Insurance as an excuse to criticize a player?!

 

**** me, I've heard everything now 

Perhaps you should read what I said first . It is about the over all fee paid

[sylofox]

So people have still not learnt to give players a fair shout. Vardy, Drinky, Mendy and even Ricardo have all been slagged befor getting a real chance. Silva has never been given a chance here.

[fox_up_north]

11 hours ago, Sly said:

A bit harsh!!! I don’t even think he’s our worst Premier League player.
 

Balaban, Stepanovs, Brolin, Bogarde, Bebe, Junior Lewis, Antidote, Rebrov, Milton Nunez, Taibi, Savio, Ali Dia, Marlet, Luque, Akinbyi, Roque Junior, Musa, Cornelius, Sanoygo, Jardel, Cheyrou, Van Wolfswinkel, Boogers, Djemba-Djemba, 

I'd love to see a first 11 made up of those. 

[Tuna]

4 minutes ago, fox_up_north said:

I'd love to see a first 11 made up of those. 

Taibi

 

Stepanovs Roque Junior Bogarde

 

Cheyrou Junior Lewis Djemba-Djemba Musa

 

Jardel Brolin

 

You're welcome

 

 

[Muzzy_Larsson]

Interesting reading this as it seems Rodgers could be willing to give Silva a fresh start.

 

Interesting parrallels (although different types of player) with Stuart Armstrong when Rodgers first arrived at Celtic.  Armstrong had a great first six months with us followed by a terrible 2.5 years thereafter until Rodgers arrived.  He was one of the ones expected to and most fans would have been happy if he had been shown the door but instead he was revitalised under Rodgers and was one of our best players in the invincible season where he scored a lot of goals from midfield.  Wonder if Silva will experience a similar revival.

[Strokes]

1 hour ago, Claridge said:

Perhaps you should read what I said first . It is about the over all fee paid

I wonder if he will get a loyalty bonus when he leaves?

[hackneyfox]

1 hour ago, Claridge said:

Perhaps you should read what I said first . It is about the over all fee paid

I’ve read it and called BS.

We haven’t paid anything close to £50m for him.

[LC/FC]

Silva looked good yesterday for a short 30 minute cameo in his first preseason game. Kept the ball well. Linked up nicely, filled in the CB or FB positions when they bombed forward. 

It seems like people here don't get the water carrier role of keeping possession and making things tick over so others can get into their required position to attack again. Some of the diagonal balls that both him and Mendy played caught Cambridge on the back foot a few times. We play possession football now, not counter attacking, and having players of Mendy and Silva's skillset is vital to that way of play. 

[sdb]

55 minutes ago, Tuna said:

Taibi

 

Stepanovs Roque Junior Bogarde

 

Cheyrou Junior Lewis Djemba-Djemba Musa

 

Jardel Brolin

 

You're welcome

 

 

And a man down from the off ??

 

Would still probably glide past some of our 2005-07 line ups 

[Dorkingfox]

17 minutes ago, sdb said:

And a man down from the off ??

 

Would still probably glide past some of our 2005-07 line ups 

 

[Dahnsouff]

Adrien, its time to  son

[PaulW]

3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Adrien, its time to  son

Shine?

[Guest SO1]

3 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Adrien, its time to  son

?

[volpeazzurro]

6 hours ago, sylofox said:

So people have still not learnt to give players a fair shout. Vardy, Drinky, Mendy and even Ricardo have all been slagged befor getting a real chance. Silva has never been given a chance here.

It's a myth, he was given ample opportunity compared to others but was so incredibly bad, there was seemingly  nothing to build upon. You can't just keep playing somebody in the hope or on a whim that they might come good eventually whilst risking losing games and therefore points. I would suggest that had he cost  £1m from Barnsley it wouldn't be an issue. The fact of his transfer fee coupled with his perceived exotic background and name appears to give some people the belief that he was hard done by. In reality he wasn't,  more than one manager didn't trust him to perform or kick on by showing positive signs in training which is something his supporters on here aren't party to. The decision not to play him was made by professionals and not armchair romanticists. 

[volpeazzurro]

4 hours ago, LC/FC said:

Silva looked good yesterday for a short 30 minute cameo in his first preseason game. Kept the ball well. Linked up nicely, filled in the CB or FB positions when they bombed forward. 

It seems like people here don't get the water carrier role of keeping possession and making things tick over so others can get into their required position to attack again. Some of the diagonal balls that both him and Mendy played caught Cambridge on the back foot a few times. We play possession football now, not counter attacking, and having players of Mendy and Silva's skillset is vital to that way of play. 

He was playing in a preseason game against Cambridge. His previous form in the Premiership would suggest that this water carrier is physically weak, slow in thought and leaky.

[LC/FC]

2 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

He was playing in a preseason game against Cambridge. His previous form in the Premiership would suggest that this water carrier is physically weak, slow in thought and leaky.

He missed half the season out due to his ban. Time will tell if he's suited to the prem or not. But as the saying goes, form is temporary, class is permanent. 

He could be a flop or he could be great. You're right, it's merely a preseason friendly against lower opposition, but it's the possibility that Rodgers can actually get those that we've previously written off to become the players we'd hope them to be when they first arrived. 

It could be the change in management and playing differently or possibly the need to acclimatise to the pace and rhythm of English football, but from yesterday's showing, all I am saying is that he is far from the worst player we've ever had in the Premiership hyperbole that's been spouted.

[HoustonFox]

5 hours ago, Dahnsouff said:

Adrien, its time to  son

He’s pulled?! 

[volpeazzurro]

2 hours ago, LC/FC said:

He missed half the season out due to his ban. Time will tell if he's suited to the prem or not. But as the saying goes, form is temporary, class is permanent. 

He could be a flop or he could be great. You're right, it's merely a preseason friendly against lower opposition, but it's the possibility that Rodgers can actually get those that we've previously written off to become the players we'd hope them to be when they first arrived. 

It could be the change in management and playing differently or possibly the need to acclimatise to the pace and rhythm of English football, but from yesterday's showing, all I am saying is that he is far from the worst player we've ever had in the Premiership hyperbole that's been spouted.

Whether he ever had real 'class' is perhaps debateable. He was undoubtedly a good player but in a poor league. He was a fairly unremarkable player really in his national side. However, what ever class there had been was some considerable time ago now and it certainly didn't transfer here in the Premiership, he was like a fish out of water. Very sad really for him as well because I don't doubt he has a good attitude. He's now 30. Realistically he is never going to get the time to 'acclimatise' because there's a lot better choice of players before him who's careers won't be stalled or potential points lost on the off chance he'll come good. Perhaps he's just being played to keep him fit for the shop window.

[BoyJones]

Silva is clearly a talented player, you don't win the European Championship being a donkey or England would have won it many times over the years.

 

He never suited previous managers style of playing. Skilful probing inter changing passing wasn't our style in previous years. Stout defending, good headers of the ball, strong tackling and constant defending, ball chasing was our style. We lived for 40% possession. Even in Heskeys days we'd boot the ball into the corners for him to chase and waste time.

 

Times have changed and we are trying to play more considered football, little triangles near our own corner flag to drag teams onto us and then quick passing and send the creative midfielders, say Maddison and Tielemans to suddenly run free in the centre circle and bear down on their defence whilst Vardy and wingers run into space. I think Silva can play a part in this type of approach. People go on about Choudhary and he is clearly talented, but old school for me. Late tackling, chopping people down a la last night shows to me he hasn't learnt from his European experience. 

 

Anyway, Choudhary is streets behind Ndidi and one enforcer should be enough, particularly with Mendy turning in good performances. 

 

Anyway, think Silva will go because so many city fans have made their mind up about him, but to me the man is skilful and is premier league class. I think he could do a job for us in the current set up. However, I also rated Iborra, but the boo boys gave him plenty of stick and he got snapped by a team playing Europa league football. 

[HankMarvin]

28 minutes ago, BoyJones said:

Silva is clearly a talented player, you don't win the European Championship being a donkey or England would have won it many times over the years.

 

He never suited previous managers style of playing. Skilful probing inter changing passing wasn't our style in previous years. Stout defending, good headers of the ball, strong tackling and constant defending, ball chasing was our style. We lived for 40% possession. Even in Heskeys days we'd boot the ball into the corners for him to chase and waste time.

 

Times have changed and we are trying to play more considered football, little triangles near our own corner flag to drag teams onto us and then quick passing and send the creative midfielders, say Maddison and Tielemans to suddenly run free in the centre circle and bear down on their defence whilst Vardy and wingers run into space. I think Silva can play a part in this type of approach. People go on about Choudhary and he is clearly talented, but old school for me. Late tackling, chopping people down a la last night shows to me he hasn't learnt from his European experience. 

 

Anyway, Choudhary is streets behind Ndidi and one enforcer should be enough, particularly with Mendy turning in good performances. 

 

Anyway, think Silva will go because so many city fans have made their mind up about him, but to me the man is skilful and is premier league class. I think he could do a job for us in the current set up. However, I also rated Iborra, but the boo boys gave him plenty of stick and he got snapped by a team playing Europa league football. 

 

 

Tell that to the majority of Greece players in 2004

[volpeazzurro]

46 minutes ago, BoyJones said:

Silva is clearly a talented player, you don't win the European Championship being a donkey or England would have won it many times over the years.

 

He never suited previous managers style of playing. Skilful probing inter changing passing wasn't our style in previous years. Stout defending, good headers of the ball, strong tackling and constant defending, ball chasing was our style. We lived for 40% possession. Even in Heskeys days we'd boot the ball into the corners for him to chase and waste time.

 

Times have changed and we are trying to play more considered football, little triangles near our own corner flag to drag teams onto us and then quick passing and send the creative midfielders, say Maddison and Tielemans to suddenly run free in the centre circle and bear down on their defence whilst Vardy and wingers run into space. I think Silva can play a part in this type of approach. People go on about Choudhary and he is clearly talented, but old school for me. Late tackling, chopping people down a la last night shows to me he hasn't learnt from his European experience. 

 

Anyway, Choudhary is streets behind Ndidi and one enforcer should be enough, particularly with Mendy turning in good performances. 

 

Anyway, think Silva will go because so many city fans have made their mind up about him, but to me the man is skilful and is premier league class. I think he could do a job for us in the current set up. However, I also rated Iborra, but the boo boys gave him plenty of stick and he got snapped by a team playing Europa league football. 

Firstly, he didn't win a European Championship,  he was part of a team, a team with a certain player called Ronaldo. I somehow feel Silva played a more minor role with better players around him. 

 

Strange how you feel he's Premiership quality yet no other Premiership teams, including the newly promoted one's seem to be gagging to buy him?

[Deeg67]

58 minutes ago, BoyJones said:

Silva is clearly a talented player, you don't win the European Championship being a donkey or England would have won it many times over the years.

 

He never suited previous managers style of playing. Skilful probing inter changing passing wasn't our style in previous years. Stout defending, good headers of the ball, strong tackling and constant defending, ball chasing was our style. We lived for 40% possession. Even in Heskeys days we'd boot the ball into the corners for him to chase and waste time.

 

Times have changed and we are trying to play more considered football, little triangles near our own corner flag to drag teams onto us and then quick passing and send the creative midfielders, say Maddison and Tielemans to suddenly run free in the centre circle and bear down on their defence whilst Vardy and wingers run into space. I think Silva can play a part in this type of approach. People go on about Choudhary and he is clearly talented, but old school for me. Late tackling, chopping people down a la last night shows to me he hasn't learnt from his European experience. 

 

Anyway, Choudhary is streets behind Ndidi and one enforcer should be enough, particularly with Mendy turning in good performances. 

 

Anyway, think Silva will go because so many city fans have made their mind up about him, but to me the man is skilful and is premier league class. I think he could do a job for us in the current set up. However, I also rated Iborra, but the boo boys gave him plenty of stick and he got snapped by a team playing Europa league football. 

I think he suited what Claude was trying to do well enough, but the decision to use him or not was taken out of his hands.

 

We don't really know who is and who isn't interested in buying Silva, and we don't know what valuation Leicester is putting on him.  Obviously his age and the fact that we've buried him for 2 years doesn't do anything for his value.

[Guest SO1]

55 minutes ago, BoyJones said:

Silva is clearly a talented player, you don't win the European Championship being a donkey or England would have won it many times over the years.

 

He never suited previous managers style of playing. Skilful probing inter changing passing wasn't our style in previous years. Stout defending, good headers of the ball, strong tackling and constant defending, ball chasing was our style. We lived for 40% possession. Even in Heskeys days we'd boot the ball into the corners for him to chase and waste time.

 

Times have changed and we are trying to play more considered football, little triangles near our own corner flag to drag teams onto us and then quick passing and send the creative midfielders, say Maddison and Tielemans to suddenly run free in the centre circle and bear down on their defence whilst Vardy and wingers run into space. I think Silva can play a part in this type of approach. People go on about Choudhary and he is clearly talented, but old school for me. Late tackling, chopping people down a la last night shows to me he hasn't learnt from his European experience. 

 

Anyway, Choudhary is streets behind Ndidi and one enforcer should be enough, particularly with Mendy turning in good performances. 

 

Anyway, think Silva will go because so many city fans have made their mind up about him, but to me the man is skilful and is premier league class. I think he could do a job for us in the current set up. However, I also rated Iborra, but the boo boys gave him plenty of stick and he got snapped by a team playing Europa league football. 

Don't worry. Top, Rudkin, and Rodgers think absolutely zero about our supporters opinions on a player. Like a finely tuned machine the part either works or it doesn't.

Optimum performance is all that matters. I haven't come across a poster on this board who knows more than Rodgers. Yet.

[Claridge]

2 hours ago, SO1 said:

Don't worry. Top, Rudkin, and Rodgers think absolutely zero about our supporters opinions on a player. Like a finely tuned machine the part either works or it doesn't.

Optimum performance is all that matters. I haven't come across a poster on this board who knows more than Rodgers. Yet.

Rodgers hardly put him in the match day squad, never mind the team.FT follower me thinks

[Deeg67]

That comment is so asinine and absurd on so many levels that I hardly know where to start. So I’ll let the idiocy speak for itself.

Edited 25 July 2019 by Deeg67