fuchsntf Posted 21 August 2019 Share Posted 21 August 2019 28 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: I know we always get the ‘you wouldn’t take a pay cut in your job’ argument but I would if it made me happier! Surely they’d be willing to take a step back, just to get playing again... it’s not like they’re going to be on pennies. If anything they’d be going back to the fantastic footballers wage they were on before they signed for us. I genuinely think if agents weren’t involved in football we would see far less of this type of thing. Both of these guys are determined footballers, I have no doubt about that. They both must realise they’ve not proved themselves here. So you’d think their logic would be that they do have to drop down in wage, do well at that club and you’ll have a longer career. I did a couple of times,also dropped from Management jobs,to Keep to technical-support -trouble shooting....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 21 August 2019 Share Posted 21 August 2019 (edited) i can’t help but feel sorry for Silva. the farce that started his ‘career’ here can’t have done anything but set him back physically and mentally. Coupled with our Opra Winfrey approach to handing out astronomical wages means no one seems to want to pay what we want from them. He doesn’t want to take a drop in wages. can’t blame him... who does? Saying we have ruined his career is a little too strong. i’m sure Lemony Snicket would call it a series of unfortunate events. Edited 21 August 2019 by MPH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 21 August 2019 Share Posted 21 August 2019 43 minutes ago, MPH said: i can’t help but feel sorry for Silva. the farce that started his ‘career’ here can’t have done anything but set him back physically and mentally. Coupled with our Opra Winfrey approach to handing out astronomical wages means no one seems to want to pay what we want from them. He doesn’t want to take a drop in wages. can’t blame him... who does? Saying we have ruined his career is a little too strong. i’m sure Lemony Snicket would call it a series of unfortunate events. you see.. We can agree..!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 21 August 2019 Share Posted 21 August 2019 47 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: you see.. We can agree..!! wouldnt this post prove i don’t love a good roast? Could of gone on about Silva being ‘crap’ ( i don’t think he is actually) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuchsntf Posted 21 August 2019 Share Posted 21 August 2019 39 minutes ago, MPH said: wouldnt this post prove i don’t love a good roast? Could of gone on about Silva being ‘crap’ ( i don’t think he is actually) Depends on the roast,I suppose..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted 21 August 2019 Share Posted 21 August 2019 20 minutes ago, fuchsntf said: Depends on the roast,I suppose..... im rather partial to a medium roast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 I posted about slim and it is is the same for silva... and even kingy The way out is to offer to pay up half their remaining contract if they take a move to a club who offer them half their wages. That way we get a transfer fee. Otherwise we loan them out.. we still pay half their wages... and they go on a free when the contract is up simples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 I hope for the sake of the lads career he gets a move away soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinsocks Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 7 minutes ago, Bob Weasel Fox said: I hope for the sake of the lads career he gets a move away soon Thats just it bob ...is agent doesnt want him to move. ... the agent doesn't care about his career. .just his lifetime earnings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Weasel Fox Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 53 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: Thats just it bob ...is agent doesnt want him to move. ... the agent doesn't care about his career. .just his lifetime earnings Piss poor isn’t it footballers and the game in general would be so much better without dodgy agents 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GDesign_JRC Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 PERCYYY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 Another loan to Monaco then; both him and Slimani reunited over there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 We’ve got a lot to thank that Jardim guy for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUltimateWinner Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 WE LOVE YOU MONACO, WE DO!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffschlupp Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 You know a club are in the shit when a manager is so obviously in control of recruitment like Jardim is. Silva, Slimani and Gelson Martins. Jesus, show some creativity. Anyway, good luck to Adrien. Good news for us if they're paying most of his wages too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 (edited) Another fcuking loan. Wouldn't it be nice just to be able to sell our deadwood? Lets hope Silva and Slimani perform well so we can loan them out next season as well. Pity we never loaned Ghezzal which i'm sure we could have done easily as it wasn't like they were fighting off suitors for him. Edited 22 August 2019 by Gerard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucey Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 Monaco fans seem a lot less keen now than they did in February. This too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 Monaco probably take us for mugs. They make a big profit on Tielemans after being a bit of a flop there. They get Ghezzal on a free, he totally bombs and we pay £12m for him when there are zero other suitors. They get Silva on loan and he performs like a star. Instead of buying him they just loan him again. They also loan our £30m striker. I'm not complaining about buying Tielemans or loaning Slimani but just like Sporting it's a one way street. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raw Dykes Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 16 minutes ago, Gerard said: Another fcuking loan. Wouldn't it be nice just to be able to sell our deadwood? Lets hope Silva and Slimani perform well so we can loan them out next season as well. Pity we never loaned Ghezzal which i'm sure we could have done easily as it wasn't like they were fighting off suitors for him. It would be nice, but probably not realistic due to wages and clubs knowing we're desperate to get rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knitro Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 16 minutes ago, Gerard said: Another fcuking loan. Wouldn't it be nice just to be able to sell our deadwood? Lets hope Silva and Slimani perform well so we can loan them out next season as well. Pity we never loaned Ghezzal which i'm sure we could have done easily as it wasn't like they were fighting off suitors for him. I think this is a perfect example of 'nice to have' vs actual options available. I'll take the loan over the alternative of nothing, but yeah hopefully this helps land them a permanent place. All told I truly do feel bad for Silva - there's no telling how much that 14 second delay fcked things up for him and he's been a solid pro through all his ups downs and downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 Who knows what they’re paying as a loan fee. Clubs make money buying players and loaning them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, knitro said: I think this is a perfect example of 'nice to have' vs actual options available. I'll take the loan over the alternative of nothing, but yeah hopefully this helps land them a permanent place. All told I truly do feel bad for Silva - there's no telling how much that 14 second delay fcked things up for him and he's been a solid pro through all his ups downs and downs. I'd take the loan too rather him being here well down the pecking order picking up a wage and not offering much. I don't mind selling for a loss as that's the game, some you win like Maguire and some you lose. It's annoying that we have the same deadwood year in year out and we just have to wait for their contracts to expire to get rid of them. Slimani, Silva, King, James and no doubt Ghezzal in the coming years. It's why I was pissed off with the Ghezzal signing before he even came here, I never understood why we just couldn't loan him with a set fee option to buy. Monaco had no other suitors for him and wanted rid of him. It should have been an easy loan just like Monaco loaning Slimani is an easy loan. It just goes to show how important recruitment is and you get punished twice for buying poor players. Not only are you stung on the fee you struggle to sell them on for a loss. The problem is with clubs like ours and the wages we play then you can't move a player downwards. Lesser clubs than ours just can't afford them so we should put more money into recruitment just to get it right. Edited 22 August 2019 by Gerard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuna Posted 22 August 2019 Share Posted 22 August 2019 Not his fault we cocked up his transfer and he wasn't good enough but what a waste of time and money this guy was for us. Disastrous signing all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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