Ayoze Pérez

[peach0000]

1 minute ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

Perez had how many games last season ? Seriously, why do people make excuses for him ? I wish this foxestalk was around when ade akinbiyi was playing … 

It’s not about making excuses. It’s about supporting a player who plays for the team you support. Perez as I’ve said in other threads is very much a player for me who’s being played out of position and mismanaged. We all want a proper right winger but we don’t have one at the moment and Perez is doing his best filling in. He tries hard, puts in effort and plays to the best of his ability, that’s all you can ever ask for from a player.

 

If he’s not good enough that’s not his fault so endlessly ripping into him is just pointless and uncalled for and I personally find it tiresome reading it

[TrickyTrev Benjamin]

1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

Think it’s the lack of a level playing field to be honest, as no-one praises his good things (yes there are some) only his bad

Name his good things ? What does he bring to the team ? He’s a weak link and I’m not even a Albrighton fan but I would start him over Perez every game. I’m sorry but sometimes you need to be a realist. Not every Leicester is good, he’s pants. He’s a Newcastle level player and Newcastle fans even said he only turns up 2 months a season for them. 

[TrickyTrev Benjamin]

Just now, peach0000 said:

It’s not about making excuses. It’s about supporting a player who plays for the team you support. Perez as I’ve said in other threads is very much a player for me who’s being played out of position and mismanaged. We all want a proper right winger but we don’t have one at the moment and Perez is doing his best filling in. He tries hard, puts in effort and plays to the best of his ability, that’s all you can ever ask for from a player.

 

If he’s not good enough that’s not his fault so endlessly ripping into him is just pointless and uncalled for and I personally find it tiresome reading it

Perez is played out of position? So I’m going take your opinion on Perez over Brendan Rodgers ? I’m sorry but you’re the sort of person who would defend Peter Taylor or backed ade akinbiyi. I’m a Leicester fan and I want the best for Leicester but Perez is pants and not good enough for us. 

[peach0000]

2 minutes ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

Was a sitter I remember. What because he blocked the ball with his arm, he single handle won us the fa cup ? Seriously what do you watch ? Like I’m being serious, are you watching the same Leicester game as me ? If this board was around in the Peter Taylor era you’d be on defending junior Lewis. 

Obviously didn’t win it on his own but I stand by my comment that without him we may not of won it.

 

and you can say what you want it was in no way a sitter. If that moment happened in any other game no one would even remember it.

[TrickyTrev Benjamin]

4 minutes ago, pmcla26 said:

Because a lot of this foxes talk have seen the dark days of Championship and League 1, have a balanced view on things and have their own mind when it comes to judging our players. 

Same I’ve been supporting Leicester since 1993 so please don’t throw that plastic fan at me. I also go to the games and I’m not interested in thinking yes Perez is shit however I must think back to josh Low and be please how far we’ve came because that’s small time. Wake up !! Leicester aren’t crap anymore and we’re a completely different club. Some fans need to move on from this inferior complex. 

[Ginger_Filbert]

If I performed as badly at my job I’d be on the dole. 

[kingfox]

All this talk of “hating” and “scapegoating” is a load of bollocks.

 

I’ve defended him in the past, yet his performance today was another inexcusable one. What he produced in the first half was a disgrace.

 

How on earth can anybody defend this 

 

[peach0000]

Just now, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

Perez is played out of position? So I’m going take your opinion on Perez over Brendan Rodgers ? I’m sorry but you’re the sort of person who would defend Peter Taylor or backed ade akinbiyi. I’m a Leicester fan and I want the best for Leicester but Perez is pants and not good enough for us. 

I say he’s being played out of position because I’ve watched Perez for years before he joined Leicester and can never remember him being a right winger. I lived in Newcastle for many years and watched almost every Newcastle game he ever played and he played in a different position and fairly successfully in that position. That being said he still wasn’t at the level of a 30million player. He was very streaky and inconsistent but there was definitely a decent player in there when played down the middle.

[TrickyTrev Benjamin]

Just now, kingfox said:

All this talk of “hating” and “scapegoating” is a load of bollocks.

 

I’ve defended him in the past, yet his performance today was another inexcusable one. What he produced in the first half was a disgrace.

 

How on earth can anybody defend this 

 

Please don’t post this, it will upset the masses. We mustn’t dare slag off king Perez. I swear half the people saying how good Perez is doesnt go regularly. QPR today, was literally everyone slating him for being shit.

[TrickyTrev Benjamin]

2 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

I say he’s being played out of position because I’ve watched Perez for years before he joined Leicester and can never remember him being a right winger. I lived in Newcastle for many years and watched almost every Newcastle game he ever played and he played in a different position and fairly successfully in that position. That being said he still wasn’t at the level of a 30million player. He was very streaky and inconsistent but there was definitely a decent player in there when played down the middle.

Ahhhh so you’re a Newcastle fan, I’m sorry but at Leicester our standards are way higher. He’s not good enough for us. Most Leicester fans would happily drive him back to Newcastle. Watch Perez last season performances in a Leicester shirt. 

[kingfox]

Just now, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

Please don’t post this, it will upset the masses. We mustn’t dare slag off king Perez. I swear half the people saying how good Perez is doesnt go regularly. QPR today, was literally everyone slating him for being shit.

For some reason, some like to class criticism as hate.

 

His performance today deserves to be rightfully criticised, because it was piss poor.

 

It’s hard to defend a performance that was so blatantly shit.

 

If some don’t like it, tough.

[peach0000]

2 minutes ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

Ahhhh so you’re a Newcastle fan, I’m sorry but at Leicester our standards are way higher. He’s not good enough for us. Most Leicester fans would happily drive him back to Newcastle. Watch Perez last season performances in a Leicester shirt. 

 definitely not. Ive been a Leicester season ticket holder for all but the few years I lived up north. I lived with Newcastle fans though and we used to watch every Newcastle and Leicester match. If they were on at the same time we’d bring in a second tv.

 

I will point out I never said Perez was good. Just that I think the criticism is a bit harsh and unnecessary as he doesn’t pick his position and he always works hard and gives everything which is all that can really be asked. The ones to blame are the one who brought him to the club and the ones that continue to in my view mismanage the player.

[Dahnsouff]

10 minutes ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

Name his good things ? What does he bring to the team ? He’s a weak link and I’m not even a Albrighton fan but I would start him over Perez every game. I’m sorry but sometimes you need to be a realist. Not every Leicester is good, he’s pants. He’s a Newcastle level player and Newcastle fans even said he only turns up 2 months a season for them. 

I have stated before he warrants replacing, he is not our best player and he isn’t great, but he isn’t as bad as so many make out and those who condemn refuse to do so for so many others deserving of it. To such a degree. It renders their ‘targeted criticism’ (that’s scapegoating) largely irrelevant.

 

But this is a tired conversation and one that won’t reach a conclusion, so have a good evening. 

[Kevin Russell]

I find it really hard to be positive about Perez, I see:

 

 poor touch, no strength, slow, limited trickery, minimal goal threat; and a good work rate.

 

At very best he could be a passable squad utility forward from what I have seen? I mean he plays a few positions and puts in a bit of a shift if I’m being charitable, but that’s all I’ve seen?

 

Just to be clear, it is NOT scapegoating to point out that a player has been consistently below average. It is just providing an opinion based on what has been seen. If he starts to play well regularly. I would love to give him credit….. but if he continues to contribute very little then I will question his role for us - I think that’s fair? 

[Ginger_Filbert]

I hope for his sake his agency looks after his social media if the comments on his Twitter posts are anything to go by!!

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, peach0000 said:

I say he’s being played out of position because I’ve watched Perez for years before he joined Leicester and can never remember him being a right winger. I lived in Newcastle for many years and watched almost every Newcastle game he ever played and he played in a different position and fairly successfully in that position. That being said he still wasn’t at the level of a 30million player. He was very streaky and inconsistent but there was definitely a decent player in there when played down the middle.

He was even worse last season though in his supposed favoured position? 

[peach0000]

4 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

He was even worse last season though in his supposed favoured position? 

I don’t actually think he’s that bad when he’s played down the middle. I think a when he’s played that role for Leicester he tends to play deeper than he did for Newcastle. For Newcastle he’s play very close to the striker almost like a hybrid between a number 10 and a number 9 (if that makes sense) for us he’s always played more as a 10. I think he’s been incredibly average when he plays in that position. He links play okay and works hard but is nothing special. On the wing he’s always awful. He doesn’t have the attributes to play there for me! 
 

My view is that we don’t play a system that would ever have allowed him to play in his favoured role so we shouldn’t have signed him. I’m not going to blame the player for that. It’s the whole trying to fit square pegs into round wholes which I hate when it comes to football!

[SouthStandUpperTier]

I don't dislike him, and would never boo one of our players, but it's just not happening for him here and I don't think it ever will. 

Edited 31 July 2021 by SouthStandUpperTier

[filbertway]

That video is hilarious, hes laughably bad

 

I do wonder if some people actually watch games

[trabuch]

10 hours ago, TrickyTrev Benjamin said:

Perez is played out of position? So I’m going take your opinion on Perez over Brendan Rodgers ? I’m sorry but you’re the sort of person who would defend Peter Taylor or backed ade akinbiyi. I’m a Leicester fan and I want the best for Leicester but Perez is pants and not good enough for us. 

 

[turkish14]

11 hours ago, weller54 said:

Time to vent..😁

I and many others get heavily criticised for slating Perez ..a lot!!

But, honestly, how on earth can anyone defend the guy anymore?. 

Seemingly because he's one of our players we shouldn't keep posting that he's dogshit??..Why?..

So we need to support him and encourage , right?.. despite 9 out of 10 performances he shows that he's a liability?

Scapegoat I hear too?

No!.. he's not a scapegoat he's receiving criticism because he keeps letting the team down.. can't make a simple pass, can't cross the ball, is weak and loses possession continuously throughout a game.

He's had so many chances to prove he's good enough, clearly he's not!

The straw that broke the camels back for me was the sitter of a chance he missed against Chelsea.. Champions League football gone right there!!

The only thing right about this, is the main point that he’s not good enough (IMO) for where we want to be.

 

Similar to Madders in that he is so lightweight. The difference madders shields ball and gets free kicks, Perez in clumsy and gives away free kicks. He has skill, but needs way to much time to make things happen. So I agree that he isn’t good enough for us.

 

however during a match when

he gets jeered, booed, whistled cannot be good for confidence. Any good that he does do, rarely gets applauded if at all. If we want to get the best Perez (which would still be below our expectations) we need to give more support. I notice others don’t get the same negative reaction when they make mistakes.

 

Also attributing a miss at Chelsea as the reason we didn’t make CL, despite Kaspar clanger V Spurs, or the poor performances at times during the season, is a little unfair. 
 

proves my second point above, that we find the negatives in those we want to be negative too.

Edited 1 August 2021 by turkish14

[Dames]

Just because we’ve had players like Josh Low and Momo Sylla who couldnt trap a bag of cement in the past does not mean we have to accept Ayoze Perez playing so poorly in the present. 
 

[turkish14]

10 hours ago, kingfox said:

All this talk of “hating” and “scapegoating” is a load of bollocks.

 

I’ve defended him in the past, yet his performance today was another inexcusable one. What he produced in the first half was a disgrace.

 

How on earth can anybody defend this 

 

Do you think he goes out there onto the pitch and says “**** leicester and their fans, I’ll play shit today”

 

how was he disgraceful? Did he injure someone? Did he tear the badge of the shirt? Spit at fans? Punch one of his own players?

 

Its these overly dramatic replies from entitles fans that annoy me. 

 

I saw a player lacking in the quality we need, still clumsy and giving away lots of free kicks. A player who was jeered, with the two attempted through balls, which could have worked, almost dismissed. a player that at times tried to hard, with nothing coming off.
 

I don’t see that as disgraceful 

 

your comments of “inexcusable” make it sound like Perez is being personal.

 

Rodgers picks the team to whatever he sees fit. Maybe direct your anger at Brendan.

 

[turkish14]

2 minutes ago, Dames said:

Just because we’ve had players like Josh Low and Momo Sylla who couldnt trap a bag of cement in the past does not mean we have to accept Ayoze Perez playing so poorly in the present. 
 

So what would you request of him? 
 

to take magic tablets and suddenly be amazing? Should be ask

brendan to Bench him?
 

If Brendan feels he has a value to the team, he will get picked. If you don’t like it complain to Brendan. So You will have to “accept” performance not up to your righteous standards. 
 

what I think will happen is we will see less of him this season. And at some point he will move on.

[Dahnsouff]

Would love to see him upgraded, but if he remains as a near starter, I for one will back him and relish the childish dummy spitting at every game he starts.