leicsmac Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 7 hours ago, Buce said: I dare say some might find this statistic as a source of pride at human ingenuity and fecundity, but I just see it as a a sad reminder of our impending doom: Human-made objects to outweigh living things Scientists say the weight of human-made objects will likely exceed that of living things by the end of the year. In other words, the combined weight of all the plastic, bricks, concrete and other things we've made in the world will outweigh all animals and plants on the planet for the first time. The estimated weight of human-made objects is about one teratonne. For every person in the world, more than their body weight in stuff is now being produced each week. These astonishing figures have been calculated by a team at the Weizmann Institute of Sciences in Rehovot, Israel, to show how our species is transforming the Earth. "The significance is symbolic in the sense that it tells us something about the major role that humanity now plays in shaping the world and the state of the Earth around us," Dr Ron Milo, who led the research, told BBC News. "It is a reason for all of us to ponder our role, how much consumption we do and how can we try to get a better balance between the living world and humanity." The scientists worked out the combined mass of all human-made stuff from 1900 to the present day and compared this with the weight of all the living things on the planet (known as biomass). From plastic bottles to the bricks and concretes we use for buildings and roads, the weight of all the things we produce has been doubling every 20 years recently. At the same time, the weight of living things has been falling, mainly due to the loss of plant life in forests and natural spaces. The scientists knew at some point we would reach a crossover point. And according to their estimates, 2020 is the year when human-made mass from the likes of roads, buildings and machines, will likely overtake that of all the living things in the world. The exact timing is sensitive to definitions, so there may be some variability in the estimates by a few years either side, they say. But if we continue as we are, by 2040, the weight of all human-made stuff will have almost tripled from 1.1 teratonnes (1,100,000,000,000 tonnes) to about three teratonnes. This means humanity is now producing stuff at a rate of more than 30 gigatonnes (30,000,000,000 tonnes) per year. The research, published in Nature, is further evidence that we have entered a new geological age, known as the Anthropocene, where humanity's impacts on Earth will be visible in sediments and rocks millions of years into the future. The formal start date could be the 1950s, which marks the beginning of the "Great Acceleration", when the human population and its consumption patterns suddenly speeded up. It coincides with the spread of ubiquitous materials, such as aluminium, concrete and plastic. That's fair enough. Personally, I reckon (and I've said this before) we either utilise tech development and accept the risk of it all going tits-up, or we don't, and we accept the certainty that nature will do it for us sometime soon enough. I think the former is preferable from a risk management standpoint. Here's hoping the projections for the global population topping off by around 2060 are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-55258798 Another 32 of the scum ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon the Hat Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 18 hours ago, Buce said: I dare say some might find this statistic as a source of pride at human ingenuity and fecundity, but I just see it as a a sad reminder of our impending doom: Human-made objects to outweigh living things Scientists say the weight of human-made objects will likely exceed that of living things by the end of the year. In other words, the combined weight of all the plastic, bricks, concrete and other things we've made in the world will outweigh all animals and plants on the planet for the first time. The estimated weight of human-made objects is about one teratonne. For every person in the world, more than their body weight in stuff is now being produced each week. These astonishing figures have been calculated by a team at the Weizmann Institute of Sciences in Rehovot, Israel, to show how our species is transforming the Earth. "The significance is symbolic in the sense that it tells us something about the major role that humanity now plays in shaping the world and the state of the Earth around us," Dr Ron Milo, who led the research, told BBC News. "It is a reason for all of us to ponder our role, how much consumption we do and how can we try to get a better balance between the living world and humanity." The scientists worked out the combined mass of all human-made stuff from 1900 to the present day and compared this with the weight of all the living things on the planet (known as biomass). From plastic bottles to the bricks and concretes we use for buildings and roads, the weight of all the things we produce has been doubling every 20 years recently. At the same time, the weight of living things has been falling, mainly due to the loss of plant life in forests and natural spaces. The scientists knew at some point we would reach a crossover point. And according to their estimates, 2020 is the year when human-made mass from the likes of roads, buildings and machines, will likely overtake that of all the living things in the world. The exact timing is sensitive to definitions, so there may be some variability in the estimates by a few years either side, they say. But if we continue as we are, by 2040, the weight of all human-made stuff will have almost tripled from 1.1 teratonnes (1,100,000,000,000 tonnes) to about three teratonnes. This means humanity is now producing stuff at a rate of more than 30 gigatonnes (30,000,000,000 tonnes) per year. The research, published in Nature, is further evidence that we have entered a new geological age, known as the Anthropocene, where humanity's impacts on Earth will be visible in sediments and rocks millions of years into the future. The formal start date could be the 1950s, which marks the beginning of the "Great Acceleration", when the human population and its consumption patterns suddenly speeded up. It coincides with the spread of ubiquitous materials, such as aluminium, concrete and plastic. Yeah except everything we make came form a natural source. It;s not like we are making the earth heavier. Utter nonsense really isn't it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 25 minutes ago, Innovindil said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-55258798 Another 32 of the scum ffs. Fvck sake. I know that's historical but it seemed rife in the area considering the amount of groups and individuals that have been prosecuted in the last decade or so. Disgusting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 (edited) 44 minutes ago, Jon the Hat said: Yeah except everything we make came form a natural source. It;s not like we are making the earth heavier. Utter nonsense really isn't it? Seriously? I'm sorry, Jon, but if it's that far over your head, you won't understand the explanation. Edited 10 December 2020 by Buce 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 1 hour ago, Jon the Hat said: Yeah except everything we make came form a natural source. It;s not like we are making the earth heavier. Utter nonsense really isn't it? What exactly is the point being made here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boots60 Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 1 hour ago, Innovindil said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-55258798 Another 32 of the scum ffs. I wonder which religion they follow? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 15 minutes ago, boots60 said: I wonder which religion they follow? I wonder. While we're asking rhetorical questions, I also wonder whether any of the Abrahamic religions in fact have a monopoly or even a controlling stake on sexual depravity that means they should be singled out? No, is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boots60 Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 1 minute ago, leicsmac said: I wonder. While we're asking rhetorical questions, I also wonder whether any of the Abrahamic religions in fact have a monopoly or even a controlling stake on sexual depravity that means they should be singled out? No, is the answer. Oh, that's ok then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 11 minutes ago, boots60 said: Oh, that's ok then From the point of view that something utterly terrible has happened again... no, it isn't. From the point of view of attempting to use it to cheaply point-score based on one's own ideological bias...yeah, I guess it is. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 10 December 2020 Share Posted 10 December 2020 34 minutes ago, boots60 said: I wonder which religion they follow? No idea and don't care. Anyone that ****s about with kids should have their nuts squished in a vice. Don't care what (if any) sky fairy they support. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicsmac Posted 11 December 2020 Share Posted 11 December 2020 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55267260 Perhaps this should have been posted in the Championship thread, given there seems to be a certain amount of confusion regarding the objectives and necessity of the Black Lives Matter movement over there. This might add a little clarity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl the Llama Posted 11 December 2020 Share Posted 11 December 2020 28 minutes ago, leicsmac said: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55267260 Perhaps this should have been posted in the Championship thread, given there seems to be a certain amount of confusion regarding the objectives and necessity of the Black Lives Matter movement over there. This might add a little clarity. But that's in America, we don't have to care about that and we have no racists here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 11 December 2020 Share Posted 11 December 2020 Can't get my head around the numbers here, it's ****ing insane. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-55276209 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BKLFox Posted 12 December 2020 Share Posted 12 December 2020 Am i being harsh in saying cry me a f’ing river? ya pays ya money an all that, you know what’s going on https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55286237 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innovindil Posted 12 December 2020 Share Posted 12 December 2020 37 minutes ago, BKLFox said: Am i being harsh in saying cry me a f’ing river? ya pays ya money an all that, you know what’s going on https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55286237 Not at all imo. My co-worker had a trip to turkey, said he'd planned for 2 weeks quarantine on return, even though at the time there wasn't a requirement to. 2 days before he was due back they said returneens from turkey would have to isolate for 2 weeks. No tears, no moaning, just got on with it. Anyone booking a holiday this year then complaining that the situation has changed between booking/going/returning needs to give their head a wobble. Especially when they've booked a holiday so close to christmas ffs. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paninistickers Posted 12 December 2020 Share Posted 12 December 2020 38 minutes ago, Innovindil said: Not at all imo. My co-worker had a trip to turkey, said he'd planned for 2 weeks quarantine on return, even though at the time there wasn't a requirement to. 2 days before he was due back they said returneens from turkey would have to isolate for 2 weeks. No tears, no moaning, just got on with it. Anyone booking a holiday this year then complaining that the situation has changed between booking/going/returning needs to give their head a wobble. Especially when they've booked a holiday so close to christmas ffs. I think it's the absurdity that winds people up. You leave the UK, a place absolutely infested with covid l, to go to gran canaria which has virtually no cases in comparison....then to be told YOU have to self isolate whilst the great unwashed whov'e been on the bus, down lidl, picking kids up from school all week are fine to swan about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 12 December 2020 Share Posted 12 December 2020 1 hour ago, BKLFox said: Am i being harsh in saying cry me a f’ing river? ya pays ya money an all that, you know what’s going on https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-55286237 Incredible. We're in a pandemic, foreign travel is strongly advised against, his partner has hospital appointments next week, the situation is changing almost daily, are they seriously questioning this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wymsey Posted 14 December 2020 Share Posted 14 December 2020 https://www.leicestermercury.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/more-half-go-whole-day-4795619 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nalis Posted 14 December 2020 Share Posted 14 December 2020 https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/no-deal-brexit-panic-buying-food-shortages-supermarkets-boris-johnson-b1772537.html Ah yes, step 1 of the media trickery on panic buying is in place by manically reporting that people are urged not to panic buy amid a no deal Brexit. Step 2 will be reporting on how people are panic buying because of a no deal brexit as opposed to the media scaremongering in the first place. Most media outlets are at it. No matter whether you are a Brexiteer or a Remainer, or read the Guardian or Daily Mail, its absolutely disgusting behaviour by the media. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buce Posted 14 December 2020 Share Posted 14 December 2020 4 minutes ago, Nalis said: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/no-deal-brexit-panic-buying-food-shortages-supermarkets-boris-johnson-b1772537.html Ah yes, step 1 of the media trickery on panic buying is in place by manically reporting that people are urged not to panic buy amid a no deal Brexit. Step 2 will be reporting on how people are panic buying because of a no deal brexit as opposed to the media scaremongering in the first place. Most media outlets are at it. No matter whether you are a Brexiteer or a Remainer, or read the Guardian or Daily Mail, its absolutely disgusting behaviour by the media. British press in lack of integrity shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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urban.spaceman Posted 14 December 2020 Share Posted 14 December 2020 1 hour ago, StanSP said: That hashtag is definitely not going to get abused. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 14 December 2020 Share Posted 14 December 2020 Just now, urban.spaceman said: That hashtag is definitely not going to get abused. It's worse if it's not abused tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
urban.spaceman Posted 15 December 2020 Share Posted 15 December 2020 12 hours ago, StanSP said: It's worse if it's not abused tbh We have a moral duty to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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