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6 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

What's worse? Todger Strunk's todger shrunk or Todger Strunk's todger stunk?

 

Well, I suspect he'd be getting no action either way.....

 

6 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

START THE PUN WARS

 

NO, STOP THE PUN WARS NOW, PLEASE......I SURRENDER!

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52 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

 

Hardly surprising when the population is 86% white!

 

Interesting snippet:

 

The Home Office paper into the “characteristics” of such gangs, first promised by the former home secretary Sajid Javid in 2018, says while some studies show a possible overrepresentation of black and Asian offenders, it is not possible to conclude this is representative of all grooming gangs.

The review was published after criticism that victims of child abuse had been failed because of fear of accusations of racism.

It said: “Research has found that group-based child sexual exploitation offenders are most commonly white. Some studies suggest an overrepresentation of black and Asian offenders relative to the demographics of national populations. However, it is not possible to conclude that this is representative of all group-based CSE offending.

“This is due to issues such as data-quality problems, the way the samples were selected in studies, and the potential for bias and inaccuracies in the way that ethnicity data is collected.”

 

The article says the there's a 'possible' overrepresentation but one of the papers cited in the report says:

CEOP (2011) undertook a data collection with police forces, children’s services and specialist providers from the voluntary sector, looking at those allegedly involved in ‘street grooming’ and CSE. Data was returned on approximately 2,300 possible offenders, but approximately 1,100 were excluded from analysis due to a lack of basic information. In the remaining 1,200 cases, ethnicity data was unknown for 38% of them. Where data was available 30% of offenders were White, while 28% were Asian. Due to the amount of missing data, both basic offender information and ethnicity specifically, these figures should be treated with caution.

 

28% is a huge overrepresentation when that group represents about 3% of the population. But then the data itself is flawed and the real number could be much lower and more representative. 

 

All this article is going to do is make each side double down IMO. What I want to know is why there isn't enough data. And most importantly, what is the government doing to protect children from ALL abusers? I honestly don't care whether someone is male, female, white, black, asian, christian, muslim, jewish, hindu etc. Protect children from evil people.

 

The report itself:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/944206/Group-based_CSE_Paper.pdf

 

 

 

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On 15/12/2020 at 23:28, kingfox said:

Now this is what you call dedication

 

 

My brother is an IoM resident. The jet ski guy was arrested and has been quarantined in a police cell for the next 14 days. I hope he gets at least a BJ from his girlfriend on "release". 

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On 15/12/2020 at 19:13, LiberalFox said:

So it turned out that actually the moral panic about grooming gangs really was just racism/xenophobia and islamophobia? 

No it turned out that fear of being labelled racist probably didn't stop any white grooming gangs being pursued by the police.

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On 19/12/2020 at 12:05, Finnaldo said:


Theres two issues here: 

 

LiberalFox’s point that entire communities were scapegoated because of grooming gang activities, and whilst still overrepresented still seem nowhere near the levels we were told to believe from some groups that actively targeted Muslims regardless of whether they had any involvement. 
 

Your point, that police were scared (or used the excuse they were scared) of backlash for investigating certain groups for certain crimes, which allowed the perpetrators to carry on with their actions unabated. 
 

Both are valid points in their own standing, but have absolutely no business being used against each other for the purpose of oneupmanship. It only serves a front for more culture war nonsense rather than actually investigating both points on their merits and understanding how as a country and a society we can remedy these issues. 

You are right they are not the same issue.  One is the authorities who are paid to protect our Children failing to do so in a truly appalling way, and the other is a minority of racist twats (including in the media) that only other racist twats really believe spouting bollocks about all Muslims etc based on a very small group of criminal arseholes.

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