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9 hours ago, Finnaldo said:


Same for me mate, I’ve been working from home before lockdown was even announced, personally I’d much rather be in the office as I actually quite like the commute to get me in the mindset for work looking like we won’t be back until January. Hope you’re in sooner rather than later mate.
 

 

Also the commute home from work can help you unwind after a tough day. 45 mins in the car with the radio on and nothing to think about can be great.

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58 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

If they shut down many parts of ‘normal life’ again then lots of people will have no work to go to ...... and then even some of those that do will end up losing their jobs because demand for services will fall away .....

 

they will do their utmost to avoid anything more than two week restrictions of bars/restaurants/gyms and I doubt they will shut down shops. 
 

will be a request to stay home as much as possible - they will want to restrict our domestic social lives and interactions 

I agree though whether their hands become more tied behind their backs we will have to wait and see. Closing down the economy again would be the most disastrous thing that can happen. Anecdotally they have been surprised by the number of contacts people who have been infected have had. It will be vital to try and reduce this number or we will face a lockdown in all likelihood. I think we will have to live with more social restrictions through the whole winter, including Christmas, to help protect not only the health service but the economy too.

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Personal responsibility 

 

it’s a shame that people, have to quarantine or isolate at all 

 

it really shouldn’t be difficult for someone who may have been in contact with the virus to just be careful for 10 days or so. wear a covering. Don’t go out socially. Keep yourself to yourself.  Avoid handling things that other people will touch.  Just behave as if you have the plague! You can still go about your daily business but keep away from people. If your daily business involves you having close contact with people then you probably can’t carry it out but many would be able to. 
 

anecdotally, when I was probably at my most infectious back in March I went into work. The lady sat to my left did not contract CV - the lady to my right did. 

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48 minutes ago, Big Dave said:

Also the commute home from work can help you unwind after a tough day. 45 mins in the car with the radio on and nothing to think about can be great.

Can be the best part of the day.Anything under an hour is perfect.Can get a bit tiring if it’s more.Of course there is always the added risk of jams,breakdowns etc.

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1 hour ago, st albans fox said:

If they shut down many parts of ‘normal life’ again then lots of people will have no work to go to ...... and then even some of those that do will end up losing their jobs because demand for services will fall away .....

 

they will do their utmost to avoid anything more than two week restrictions of bars/restaurants/gyms and I doubt they will shut down shops. 
 

will be a request to stay home as much as possible - they will want to restrict our domestic social lives and interactions 

Which will be pointless while the schools remain open. We’ve been steadily opening things up and the numbers had pretty much flatlined..control, open the schools and boom..out of control. One of my mates has 2 lads at the same school, they have to stay in their own bubbles at school, one got sent home because of a positive test in his bubble  but the other can go back. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to work out that something’s not quite right in that system.

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If you listen to Euro news every other country is moaning about how the pandemic has been handled ...   you'd think we had the worst government in the world and other countries had handled it far better ...   reality check ..   we are all in the sh1t and are all trying our best to get out of it.

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The number of people purely focussing on actual deaths continues to astound me too. There is so much information coming out about the potential long term health implications for people who have been infected, even those who are not particularly ill, or even show no symptoms at all. There are studies which have found multiple organ damage, mental impairment, chronic fatigue, all life changing, but hey, they're not dead so let's all get back to normal. The long term damage is quite frightening if people could actually be bothered to read it, but sadly some seem to just want to bury their heads in the sand, or just look at the numbers of actual deaths.

 

Unfortunately keeping this at bay as best we can relies on the majority having some kind of moral responsibility, which seems to be lacking in so many people these day.  If we carry on like this it won't be long before the NHS is overwhelmed again, as is already coming close in France and Spain. 

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41 minutes ago, Larry_LCFC said:

I find the levels of delusion and stupidity quite worrying when it comes to covid. The amount of people that think it is just an overreaction and scaremongering by the government is quite startling. 

 

I wish they could send these idiots onto the frontline to see the reality of it because it is very real and the scale of it is massive.

 

Yes the government have got things wrong and will probably continue to get things wrong, but there is no textbook on how to deal with an unprecedented pandemic, particularly when a section of the population are complete morons.

 

I’ve honestly spoken to two people this week who are convinced the whole thing is one big conspiracy

My faith in the human race dwindles just a little bit more ever year that goes by

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10 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

These people can have all the qualifications possible, but you can tell some of them just haven't lived in the real world.

While there's definitely factors that get overlooked in complex academic analysis (perhaps they should have more behavioural scientists weighing in), the idea of the snooty "ivory tower" academic against the good honest "salt of the earth" Average Joe who lives in the "real world" (whatever that is) is a bit passe, perhaps?

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7 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

These people can have all the qualifications possible, but you can tell some of them just haven't lived in the real world.

A fundamental problem of government and thinktanks

How many of Boris’s Cabinet I wonder are STILL from an Oxbridge background and how many representatives sit on SAGE who have ever really gotten anywhere near the frontline?

It just reproduces itself time after time after time

I wonder whether there will ever be a political party set up by a group of ‘normal’ people?

Not born with silver spoons, not radicalised in any way, just intelligent and down to earth?

@Babylon should start one. 

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1 minute ago, leicsmac said:

While there's definitely factors that get overlooked in complex academic analysis (perhaps they should have more behavioural scientists weighing in), the idea of the snooty "ivory tower" academic against the good honest "salt of the earth" Average Joe who lives in the "real world" (whatever that is) is a bit passe, perhaps?

Call it what you want, but if they couldn't see that sending hundreds of thousands of kids back, would result in them needing more tests, when the schools specifically tell them they need a negative test to come back, then there's something seriously wrong. They've spent months preparing this and fail to realise fundamental basics.

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2 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Call it what you want, but if they couldn't see that sending hundreds of thousands of kids back, would result in them needing more tests, when the schools specifically tell them they need a negative test to come back, then there's something seriously wrong. They've spent months preparing this and fail to realise fundamental basics.

Absolutely right

Who in their right mind would have expected anything else?

The mind boggles sometimes in terms of how the Government tries to state that something was ‘unexpected’ when it was so blatantly obvious what was going to happen

Kids pick up infections because they don’t bother too much about hygiene and don’t socially distance

Schools darent risk it so will send a child home at the first sign of a cough or sneeze

Then the parents have to be off ‘in case’ the child has got Covid AND can’t get tested quickly due to a shortage of tests 

Seriously, which part of this scenario did anyone think wouldn’t happen?

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3 minutes ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

Call it what you want, but if they couldn't see that sending hundreds of thousands of kids back, would result in them needing more tests, when the schools specifically tell them they need a negative test to come back, then there's something seriously wrong. They've spent months preparing this and fail to realise fundamental basics.

...or they were pushed into signing off on it for political reasons. Or perhaps they did warn about this but were overruled or they knew the testing infrastructure wasn't there but all they could do was recommend that the powers that be sort that out ASAP and that didn't make it into the final report. Or, yes, they could well have overlooked a critical factor here.

 

In any case, this just seems that this is going for the wrong target in the form of an organisation that has precious little actual power beyond the advisory (clue is in the name, after all).

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12 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

A fundamental problem of government and thinktanks

How many of Boris’s Cabinet I wonder are STILL from an Oxbridge background and how many representatives sit on SAGE who have ever really gotten anywhere near the frontline?

It just reproduces itself time after time after time

I wonder whether there will ever be a political party set up by a group of ‘normal’ people?

Not born with silver spoons, not radicalised in any way, just intelligent and down to earth?

@Babylon should start one. 

Drain the Swamp... Make Wigston Great Again!!!

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49 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

I’ve honestly spoken to two people this week who are convinced the whole thing is one big conspiracy

My faith in the human race dwindles just a little bit more ever year that goes by

ALL the countries in the world got together - even the ones who can't stand each other - to agree on something as massive as this.

Yeah, seems legit lol

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29 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Absolutely right

Who in their right mind would have expected anything else?

The mind boggles sometimes in terms of how the Government tries to state that something was ‘unexpected’ when it was so blatantly obvious what was going to happen

Kids pick up infections because they don’t bother too much about hygiene and don’t socially distance

Schools darent risk it so will send a child home at the first sign of a cough or sneeze

Then the parents have to be off ‘in case’ the child has got Covid AND can’t get tested quickly due to a shortage of tests 

Seriously, which part of this scenario did anyone think wouldn’t happen?

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The government didn’t think it would happen, or maybe they did as they have enough advisers to help them out, they surely couldn’t have been led to believe that getting the schools open was going to be a good idea, it’s just plain common sense. The crazy thing is that according to the government, the current spike is down to people being reckless with social distancing when from what I’ve witnessed this morning, a trip to wickes, b&q and screwfix where everyone I saw was wearing a mask and actually being a bit observant of who was around them, is not true, unless it’s just me with my limited socialising.

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