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6 minutes ago, Corky said:

Which is also going to cause problems further down the line if there is a drop in cases, people see it and are then told the testing has issues.

 

People need things to cling to, restrictions are almost seen as a trade-off for something better in the future.

Thing is, all the uncertainty stems from no one knowing what to believe. It’s all very confusing. We read numbers of parts per 100000 and 1000000 instead of a more understanding parts per 100, we no longer talk about how many people have died from a disease , we talk about how many have caught it but then have to start talking about 2000 from 4000 false positives. To start chucking exponential growth rates, variables and algorithms at people is only asking for one response and that’s wtf is everyone on about, I’m going down the pub.

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5 hours ago, String fellow said:

Earlier this year, we were told that Italy was suffering badly, due to its high proportion of older people and because of extended families living together. However, fast forward six months, and Italy is showing few signs of a second wave, whilst in Spain, France and the UK, cases are rocketing back up. What's Italy doing right that the other three are doing wrong?  

My guess would be that Italy were first to get it and were slowest to enforce lockdown.  As a result more people got it.

 

To which the conclusion could be that they (and Sweden) have had enough people catch the disease to achieve herd immunity.  It's what all countries are aiming for, though they would rather get there by vaccination; but perhaps, by accident in Italy's case and deliberately in Sweden's case, they have done it.

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42 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said:

My guess would be that Italy were first to get it and were slowest to enforce lockdown.  As a result more people got it.

 

To which the conclusion could be that they (and Sweden) have had enough people catch the disease to achieve herd immunity.  It's what all countries are aiming for, though they would rather get there by vaccination; but perhaps, by accident in Italy's case and deliberately in Sweden's case, they have done it.

The curious case of London supports this theory. Epicentre of cases at the height of it and since then London has not been a problem area.

 

Which also puts paid to the theory that it's 'selfish bast*rds' to blame.

 

Are selfish b*stards not present in London?

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8 hours ago, Ian Nacho said:

Does these people not know how pubs work? If a pub closes at 10, people will still be in there for a good half hour. 

Not what I saw/witnessed recently in a pub closing at 10. Last orders around 9.40 and was the most persistent I’ve seen trying to get people out 

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10 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Which part isn’t relevant?

The first two minutes were actually good, then he started going off on one about BLM, completely irrelevant. And then telling people to ignore restrictions is completely reckless considering his stature and the amount of older people who like him.

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If it’s true that they are going to advise working from home but not enforce it, we will see exactly why Sweden have done better than the UK.
 

Within Swedish society, the relationship between employer and employee is far more understanding.
 

Alongside they have less metropolitan areas with office concentrations. 

 

We’ve seen in London how the closure of workplaces and home working has assisted in control 

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