Coronavirus Thread

[whoareyaaa]

24 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

I wasn't actually, if I had have been referring solely to you I would have said so. Interesting to see that you jumped to that conclusion though, and also that you assume I have little understanding of the subject. I suggest you read this: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/05/great-5g-conspiracy/611317/ and come back to me, possibly on another thread though, maybe start a conspiracy theory thread if we don't already have one?  

considering you laughed at my comment then it's not so far fetched, good swerve.

 

its not a conspiracy so there is no need to start a thread. the data is there for you to see for yourself the link you have provided is poor.

[Countryfox]

26 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

I wasn't actually, if I had have been referring solely to you I would have said so. Interesting to see that you jumped to that conclusion though, and also that you assume I have little understanding of the subject. I suggest you read this: https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/05/great-5g-conspiracy/611317/ and come back to me, possibly on another thread though, maybe start a conspiracy theory thread if we don't already have one?  

Let me know when it gets started Debs ..  as I have a theory that is defo 100% correct .. all I’ll say is that when JFK was shot the original suspect, who was arrested nearby but later released due to lack of evidence, was wearing blue suede shoes ..  and was all shook up ...   

 

Any ideas ... 

[Blue ROI]

 

[yorkie1999]

5 hours ago, Nod.E said:

My Sainsbury's Local have started making people queue outside again.

 

Either masks work or they don't.

 

If they do, what's the need to make people queue as well?

 

If they don't, stop making people wear masks and just make people queue.

 

Doing both makes no sense.

Thought about this the other month at wickes, whilst queuing outside. What’s the actual difference  between queueing outside, apart from it being a bit chilly, and queueing inside at the till? 

[Paninistickers]

7 minutes ago, Blue ROI said:

 

I don't buy into any global lizard control conspiracy, but I do find interesting that even supposed elite intelligence national leaders just simply follow the crowd. It just mus the be simple human nature to avoid beig the outlier. 

 

Either that, or media is - apart from Sweden - not reporting how 80% of the world is dealing with this?

 

How's DR Congo coping? Ghana? Iceland? Phillipines? Saudi?.....is there any country out there, Sweden apart, not following the panic mode of Europe and the west? 

[FoxesDeb]

22 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

considering you laughed at my comment then it's not so far fetched, good swerve.

 

its not a conspiracy so there is no need to start a thread. the data is there for you to see for yourself the link you have provided is poor.

Yes I laughed at your post, but my subsequent reply was not aimed solely at you as I said, I'm certainly not 'swerving' anything.

 

I'm sorry you found the link poor, try these instead:

 

https://fullfact.org/health/5G-not-accelerating-coronavirus/

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/mar/12/5g-safe-radiation-watchdog-health

 

https://www.euronews.com/2020/04/04/is-coronavirus-a-cover-up-for-deadly-effects-of-5g-technology-euronews-answers

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/07/how-false-claims-about-5g-health-risks-spread-into-the-mainstream

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/science/5g-cellphones-wireless-cancer.html

 

If you want anymore just let me know

[yorkie1999]

13 minutes ago, Blue ROI said:

 

You never know, it might reduce it to two, that’s 30% less, or 30,000 per 100,000. They can make a graph that we all understand then.

[yorkie1999]

2 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I don't buy into any global lizard control conspiracy, but I do find interesting that even supposed elite intelligence national leaders just simply follow the crowd. It just mus the be simple human nature to avoid beig the outlier. 

 

Either that, or media is - apart from Sweden - not reporting how 80% of the world is dealing with this?

 

How's DR Congo coping? Ghana? Iceland? Phillipines? Saudi?.....is there any country out there, Sweden apart, not following the panic mode of Europe and the west? 

Are you serious, we’ve got two scientists with eyes on the sides of their head telling us what to do,  an American president who turns orange to blend in with his surroundings and a little old lady as head of state who is actually changing into a Komodo dragon in front of our eyes, and you’re doubting that there’s such a thing as lizard people 

[whoareyaaa]

3 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Yes I laughed at your post, but my subsequent reply was not aimed solely at you as I said, I'm certainly not 'swerving' anything.

 

I'm sorry you found the link poor, try these instead:

 

https://fullfact.org/health/5G-not-accelerating-coronavirus/

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/mar/12/5g-safe-radiation-watchdog-health

 

https://www.euronews.com/2020/04/04/is-coronavirus-a-cover-up-for-deadly-effects-of-5g-technology-euronews-answers

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/07/how-false-claims-about-5g-health-risks-spread-into-the-mainstream

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/science/5g-cellphones-wireless-cancer.html

 

If you want anymore just let me know

your providing links from news/media outlets, there agenda is not in the public's interest and are full of false information the first one is again a link from a media outlet.

 

the link I have provided https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/the-appeal is backed up by extensive research from scientist's and other experts in said fields.

 

[Parafox]

40 minutes ago, Countryfox said:

Let me know when it gets started Debs ..  as I have a theory that is defo 100% correct .. all I’ll say is that when JFK was shot the original suspect, who was arrested nearby but later released due to lack of evidence, was wearing blue suede shoes ..  and was all shook up ...   

 

Any ideas ... 

Little Richard?

[Leicester_Loyal]

 

[FoxesDeb]

6 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

your providing links from news/media outlets, there agenda is not in the public's interest and are full of false information the first one is again a link from a media outlet.

 

the link I have provided https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/the-appeal is backed up by extensive research from scientist's and other experts in said fields.

 

You didn't read where the research contained in the articles came from then? Funnily enough, from scientists 

 

9 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

your providing links from news/media outlets, there agenda is not in the public's interest and are full of false information the first one is again a link from a media outlet.

 

the link I have provided https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/the-appeal is backed up by extensive research from scientist's and other experts in said fields.

 

Will the World Health Organisation suffice for you, or are they a bit too mainstream for you as well? 

 

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/5g-mobile-networks-and-health

 

What are the potential health risks from 5G?

 

To date, and after much research performed, no adverse health effect has been causally linked with exposure to wireless technologies. Health-related conclusions are drawn from studies performed across the entire radio spectrum but, so far, only a few studies have been carried out at the frequencies to be used by 5G.

Tissue heating is the main mechanism of interaction between radiofrequency fields and the human body. Radiofrequency exposure levels from current technologies result in negligible temperature rise in the human body.

As the frequency increases, there is less penetration into the body tissues and absorption of the energy becomes more confined to the surface of the body (skin and eye). Provided that the overall exposure remains below international guidelines, no consequences for public health are anticipated.

[Parafox]

23 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Yes I laughed at your post, but my subsequent reply was not aimed solely at you as I said, I'm certainly not 'swerving' anything.

 

I'm sorry you found the link poor, try these instead:

 

https://fullfact.org/health/5G-not-accelerating-coronavirus/

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/mar/12/5g-safe-radiation-watchdog-health

 

https://www.euronews.com/2020/04/04/is-coronavirus-a-cover-up-for-deadly-effects-of-5g-technology-euronews-answers

 

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/07/how-false-claims-about-5g-health-risks-spread-into-the-mainstream

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/16/science/5g-cellphones-wireless-cancer.html

 

If you want anymore just let me know

“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”  Benjamin Disraeli

 

Edited 19 October 2020 by Parafox

[Heathrow fox]

27 minutes ago, yorkie1999 said:

Thought about this the other month at wickes, whilst queuing outside. What’s the actual difference  between queueing outside, apart from it being a bit chilly, and queueing inside at the till? 

It’s so they can control how many people are in store i think.Although in Wickes you usually get an aisle all to yourself anyway. 

[whoareyaaa]

8 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

You didn't read where the research contained in the articles came from then? Funnily enough, from scientists 

 

Will the World Health Organisation suffice for you, or are they a bit too mainstream for you as well? 

 

https://www.who.int/news-room/q-a-detail/5g-mobile-networks-and-health

 

What are the potential health risks from 5G?

 

To date, and after much research performed, no adverse health effect has been causally linked with exposure to wireless technologies. Health-related conclusions are drawn from studies performed across the entire radio spectrum but, so far, only a few studies have been carried out at the frequencies to be used by 5G.

Tissue heating is the main mechanism of interaction between radiofrequency fields and the human body. Radiofrequency exposure levels from current technologies result in negligible temperature rise in the human body.

As the frequency increases, there is less penetration into the body tissues and absorption of the energy becomes more confined to the surface of the body (skin and eye). Provided that the overall exposure remains below international guidelines, no consequences for public health are anticipated.

not really a fan of them either tbh, there the ones that created the mess we are in now.

[FoxesDeb]

6 minutes ago, Parafox said:

“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”  Benjamin Disraeli

 

He missed out 'Foxestalk', there should have been 4

[when_you're_smiling]

21 minutes ago, whoareyaaa said:

your providing links from news/media outlets, there agenda is not in the public's interest and are full of false information the first one is again a link from a media outlet.

 

the link I have provided https://www.5gspaceappeal.org/the-appeal is backed up by extensive research from scientist's and other experts in said fields.

 

Out of interest, what is all news/media’s agenda? 

[Innovindil]

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse.. 5g conspiracy theories pop up in the rona thread.

 

Wtf is happening.

[moore_94]

5 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

Just when you thought it couldn't get worse.. 5g conspiracy theories pop up in the rona thread.

 

Wtf is happening.

Any flat earthers popped up in here yet?

[Nod.E]

5 hours ago, Innovindil said:

... 

 

What do you mean by work? They aren't a miracle piece of cloth. They help, that is all. Like certain restrictions help. Just because they don't miraculously make this crap go away doesn't mean we shouldn't use them. 

They weren't mandatory in June and July and we didn't see things go mental.

 

All I'm saying is it's just another example of over the top cautiousness which 'may' (key word) help 'a little bit' (key phrase). Clearly popular opinion is to operate on that basis.

 

Personally I would only be happy with extreme measures (and silly little ones like these) if they are highly likely to stop a significant number of deaths. And by significant I mean more than the number of lives that will be ruined by redundancies in the long term. Not 100% sure of the latest figures but I saw 695,000 as the current number recently. That will only get much worse. Okay so not 100% of those lives will be ruined, but even if it's say 20% of those people, that's 139,000 and counting.

 

It's just funny how all these little half measures are obviously not really working to avoid any real increase in cases. 

 

If they were, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

Meanwhile in July before all these measures were in effect, no cases. 

 

Look, all these measures may have some small impact. Again it's just a question of whether it's all worth it. In my view, it isn't.

Edited 19 October 2020 by Nod.E

[Innovindil]

1 minute ago, moore_94 said:

Any flat earthers popped up in here yet?

Only a matter of time by the look of it. 

[Innovindil]

1 minute ago, Nod.E said:

They weren't mandatory in June and July and we didn't see things go mental.

 

All I'm saying is it's just another example of over the top cautiousness which 'may' (key word) help 'a little bit' (key phrase). Clearly popular opinion is to operate on that basis.

 

Personally I would only be happy with extreme measures (and silly little ones like these) if they are highly likely to stop a significant number of deaths. And by significant I mean more than the number of lives that will be ruined by redundancies in the long term. Not 100% sure of the latest figures but I saw 695,000 as the current number recently. That will only get much worse. Okay so not 100% of those lives will be ruined, but even if it's say 20% of those people, that's 139,000 and counting.

 

It's just funny how all these little half measures are obviously not really working to avoid any real increase in cases. 

 

If they were, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

 

Meanwhile in July before all these measures were in effect, no cases. 

 

Look, all these measures may have some small impact. Again it's just a question of whether it's all worth it. In my view, it isn't.

If a single person is made redundant because people are being asked to wear masks I'll eat a raw onion. 

[Zear0]

I'm slightly more worried by the chemtrails in the sky seeding brain washing chemicals into the population myself.

[Nod.E]

4 hours ago, Strokes said:

It’s alright lads I have a better analogy that will sink in.

Same reason you have a wànk and poke your bum at the same time because it’s doubly effective.

In a similar vein, being overly cautious isn't always the right course of action.

 

See; doubling up on love gloves.

[Nod.E]

3 minutes ago, Innovindil said:

If a single person is made redundant because people are being asked to wear masks I'll eat a raw onion. 

That quite obviously isn't what I was suggesting.