Coronavirus Thread

[FoxesDeb]

If I had some kind of health condition that meant wearing a really thin piece of fabric over my face caused me such a problem I would be staying at home, not going out and about. If you can't cope with a mask how on earth are you expecting to cope with Covid if you contract it? 

[Zear0]

17 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

If I had some kind of health condition that meant wearing a really thin piece of fabric over my face caused me such a problem I would be staying at home, not going out and about. If you can't cope with a mask how on earth are you expecting to cope with Covid if you contract it? 

Some people suffer claustrophobia or agoraphobia for example. Just because you're susceptible to psychological conditions doesn't mean you can't physically tolerate something like COVID.

Edited 23 December 2020 by Zear0
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[FoxesDeb]

13 minutes ago, Zear0 said:

Some people suffer claustrophobia or agoraphobia for example. Just because you're susceptible to psychological conditions doesn't mean you can't physically tolerate something like COVID.

Neither conditions have any bearing on tolerating wearing a mask though... 

[Guest Manini]

5 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

That smirk from Hancock as he said 'Happy Christmas' before walking off I'd love to punch him.

It absolutely baffles me that that man hasn’t simply just been cracked one right on the chin at this point. Lost faith in the people of Britain a bit for that, surely there’s some career crim out there that would take 18 months for the satisfaction. 

[Samilktray]

I don’t know where people are shopping but generally when I go to a supermarket I’d say 95% of people are wearing a mask. 

[AllGoneTitsSchlupp]

It’s amazing that needing to find a reason to not wear a mask only seems to be a problem over here. Having spent time in Germany, Denmark and Italy in Sept and Oct..the uptake on having to wear them seemed so much higher. In Italy mask wearing was compulsory on the streets. Every. Single. Person. Had one on. 
 

like someone above said if it causes you that much discomfort from having a thin layer of fabric over your face for 30 mins, just stay at home 

[Zear0]

9 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Neither conditions have any bearing on tolerating wearing a mask though... 

I was giving examples, in addition to those earlier mentioned, that some people suffer psychological conditions and are completely independent of their physical tolerance to COVID. You're implication that those with anxiety, panic disorders or autism (to give more specific examples to help you) make them physically more susceptible to COVID needing clarifying as I can't imagine you meant that. 

[String fellow]

1 hour ago, tom27111 said:

I genuinely don't see why anyone would be exempt from wearing a mask?

 

At very least it should be possible to wear a face shield.

Face shields may look impressive, but they don't offer much by way of protection against the virus. Btw, as a 'lockdown' is all about being at home locked up, shouldn't the term be 'lockup'?  

[Guest Harrydc]

9 minutes ago, FoxesDeb said:

Neither conditions have any bearing on tolerating wearing a mask though... 

What about people who have suffered past trauma and wearing a mask brings it back for them? There are so many exceptions, and no one should ever be judged if they say they're exempt. 

[Leicester_Loyal]

'10000+ retirees volunteered. Almost all told, nope.
A whole new cohort of qualifiers.
It does NOT whatever the NHS cheerleaders say, take years to adapt and add to other nursing skills to work on A respiratory ward. They’ve had nine months. They have tried not to do anything.
There are tends of thousands of private sector hospital staff. They are massively under utilised. They NHS refuses to use them
Ridiculous isolation policy
Shocking management'

 

'Well I know that my BIL and SIL volunteered - both nurses - and have heard nothing'

 

'Wife's friend who works in dentistry also volunteered, passed all the checks/tests total silence in her view it's "very NHS"

Wife is an ICU nurse, very highly skilled, published in medical journals, guest speaker at medical conferences throughout Europe etc, who used to be the Ward Manager of a major London Specialist ICU before she moved into a senior role in the private healthcare sector ... she is current on everything including her registration
She even wrote the online training programmes for a lot of the equipment in the Nightingales
She volunteered to go back into the front line ... got one phone call then heard nothing else !
If they don’t want her .. who do they want ?'

 

Quotes from another forum about volunteering for the NHS programme to give them extra staff. In comparison we ran the same programme in our industry, but we actually made use of the people who volunteered to come back to work (from retirements or new careers).

[Innovindil]

5 hours ago, StanSP said:

I think in general they just need to stop saying when things will get back to normal by. Johnson said it in summer that we'll have 'normality by Christmas' then said recently we'll have normality by Easter. 

 

If he doesn't know, and I don't see how anyone can know, they shouldn't be saying it and giving people false hope. Just adds weight to the fair criticism of the government constantly overpromising and under delivering. I think that will be one of the main character traits of these inept people in charge as to how they'll be remembered for governing this country. 

For the most part I think I agree, and looking at it through my 32 year old eyes I could see how I would be able to accept "not normal" for 2-3 years, but slap yourself into the shoes of someone coming towards the end, potentially even those just past retirement, and tell them there's going to be some form of restrictions for the next 2 years of their lives, I can see how it would be harder to accept it. And since the aim of all this in the first place is to protect those of advanced age I'd say breaking the lockdown into segments would probably be better. Yes, flip flopping end dates isn't ideal, but I can only imagine the mental health implications of people being told it's going to be years before "normal" returns.

 

Hell, I'm no social butterfly and have never had any mental health related problems, but 9 months of this crap and it's fair to say I'm struggling. 

[UpTheLeagueFox]

7 hours ago, Buce said:

Well, if you're gonna shop with all the chavs...

I had you down as a Waitrose kind of guy.

You can't call people chavs, Buce! Especially when they're the Labour core voters! Don't go alienating them, sir!

 

3 hours ago, Samilktray said:

I don’t know where people are shopping but generally when I go to a supermarket I’d say 95% of people are wearing a mask. 

I'd say in the last 6-9 months I've barely seen anyone in Aldi, Blaby without a mask. 

[JR99]

1 minute ago, UpTheLeagueFox said:

You can't call people chavs, Buce! Especially when they're the Labour core voters! Don't go alienating them, sir!

 

I'd say in the last 6-9 months I've barely seen anyone in Aldi, Blaby without a mask. 

I'd say even the overwhelming majority, at least 95% in my wonderful Tesco Beaumont Leys, manage the mask wearing inside - and those that don't and appear* young and healthy and don't wear one get a quizzical look. I know some of the grimmest people live here and even they seem to be managing  

 

* Even though they appear healthy they may well have perfectly fine reasoning and I certainly don't bother to stop and question. If anyone is at most risk of catching it in that environment its those not taking precautions, so I'd like to hope they've got good reasoning. I've even seen folk with lanyards on indicating they're unable to wear masks, for whatever reason, which somewhat mitigates against any grief I suppose

[FoxesDeb]

8 hours ago, Zear0 said:

I was giving examples, in addition to those earlier mentioned, that some people suffer psychological conditions and are completely independent of their physical tolerance to COVID. You're implication that those with anxiety, panic disorders or autism (to give more specific examples to help you) make them physically more susceptible to COVID needing clarifying as I can't imagine you meant that. 

I didn't say anything about being more susceptible, I said that if you can't cope with the wearing of a mask you are going to find it much harder to cope with the struggle for breath that often comes with covid. 

 

 

[Guest Harrydc]

3 hours ago, FoxesDeb said:

I didn't say anything about being more susceptible, I said that if you can't cope with the wearing of a mask you are going to find it much harder to cope with the struggle for breath that often comes with covid. 

 

 

If the government are so right with their restrictions, and they're so right about the way they've handled it, then why are they not right about exemptions? Because they give a huge list of people who may be exempt. Its not for you to judge, or say how making a mask should or should not make them feel.

[FoxesDeb]

15 minutes ago, Harrydc said:

If the government are so right with their restrictions, and they're so right about the way they've handled it, then why are they not right about exemptions? Because they give a huge list of people who may be exempt. Its not for you to judge, or say how making a mask should or should not make them feel.

Where did I do that?  I just said what I would do if I was in the situation... 

 

[Dunge]

I think I’d feel far less judgemental of the supermarket maskless if they weren’t generally walking around in pairs with other young, healthy-looking maskless people and demonstrated any understanding of social distancing.

[Nalis]

My local supermarket wasnt too bad with mask wearers or stocks of food.

 

Also noticed people are a lot more polite now in shops which is nice to see, sorrys and thank yous when accidentally getting in people's way or making place for people. Makes a change from the free for all attitude in March.

[StanSP]

I think any kind of angst needs to go towards those who wear their mask below their nose, rendering it pretty much useless.

 

It's the dumbest and laziest thing and what's worrying is the volume of people who I regularly see doing it.

[purpleronnie]

58 minutes ago, StanSP said:

I think any kind of angst needs to go towards those who wear their mask below their nose, rendering it pretty much useless.

 

It's the dumbest and laziest thing and what's worrying is the volume of people who I regularly see doing it.

It's incredible how many people still neither social distance or wear a mask....sometimes i think we have the dumbest population.

[z-layrex]

1 hour ago, Dunge said:

I think I’d feel far less judgemental of the supermarket maskless if they weren’t generally walking around in pairs with other young, healthy-looking maskless people and demonstrated any understanding of social distancing.

We unfortunately had to go to a Tesco to get some things we forgot from our online order. We went to Tesco as its open all night we could go very late when it was more quiet. Most people were in masks and very considerate.

 

I do remember seeing this one maskless guy, early 20s, walking around with a smug look on his face like he was proud of it. I'm not a violent person in any way, but in that second I wanted to fight him with every fibre of my being.

[BKLFox]

17 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

 

Those goalposts just keep on moving

I know what you mean, just take the furlough scheme for instance firstly they say it will stop in July then they extend it to October then extend to December then March now bloody end of April 21 for crying out loud just pick a date for it to stop 

[Carl the Llama]

3 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

I know what you mean, just take the furlough scheme for instance firstly they say it will stop in July then they extend it to October then extend to December then March now bloody end of April 21 for crying out loud just pick a date for it to stop 

Why? The continued extension of essential support is one of the few things we're getting right

[BKLFox]

Just now, Carl the Llama said:

Why? The continued extension of essential support is one of the few things we're getting right

Whoosh I see that flew straight over your head Carl

[Carl the Llama]

2 minutes ago, BKLFox said:

Whoosh I see that flew straight over your head Carl

Sorry my internet didn't load the quoted post properly so I lacked context. Oh well