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Mark 'expert' Lawrenson

Mark 'expert' Lawrenson

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No surprise that on the day there is great news that deaths are down to 17 Boris warns us that a third wave is on the way.

I understand caution but  I feel frightening the public into submission has been used too often.

We’re doing a great job with vaccinations and bringing hospitalisation and deaths down but  trying to spread fear again and potentially stalling on opening things up will be a bitter pill for many to swallow.

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KrefelderFox666

KrefelderFox666

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16 minutes ago, Lcfc82 said:

I’d disagree that it’s ridiculous that all restrictions can be removed in June. If we continue to vaccinate and hospitalisations stay low then there’s no reason not to lift restrictions.

What would we be waiting for ? If we can’t lift them this summer when would we ever be able to ?

How about rather than jump the gun, let people ease back before something else crops up like a variant and sets us back to square one. I am happy to open up and it makes sense, but I wouldn't go from 10,000 fans at Wembley on 20 June to 90,000 fans at Wembley one day later (just as an example). Let's not forget that by then all pubs, restaurants are fully open in and outside. The only difference that tables may still be spaced out a bit.

 

What would be ideal to test (as I mentioned above) is to increase capacities of indoor and outdoor venues like music and sport over many weeks culiminating in full capacity by early into the PL season.

 

Assuming vaccinations go well and there are no further major variants/outbreaks, Covid should become manageable like the flu (possibly even replacing the flu).

 

I think the biggest problem about the June easing is the ambiguity of it. It sounds like everything will go back to pre March 2020 but pretty sure that is not what the Government intend.

KrefelderFox666

KrefelderFox666

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12 minutes ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

No surprise that on the day there is great news that deaths are down to 17 Boris warns us that a third wave is on the way.

I understand caution but  I feel frightening the public into submission has been used too often.

We’re doing a great job with vaccinations and bringing hospitalisation and deaths down but  trying to spread fear again and potentially stalling on opening things up will be a bitter pill for many to swallow.

The annoying thing is that when this was a real problem, Boris downplayed/ignored it. Now that it seems like it shouldn't be an issue, he is making it one. Very strange.

bovril

bovril

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8 minutes ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

The annoying thing is that when this was a real problem, Boris downplayed/ignored it. Now that it seems like it shouldn't be an issue, he is making it one. Very strange.

Those 2 things are linked, I think. 

StanSP

StanSP

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Kit Malthouse, the policing minister, went in to the HoC while still waiting for test results. He had eventually tested positive, as well. In January he said it was preposterous anyone would be ignorant of the rules.

 

A year in to the pandemic, how are there still MPs breaking the rules?!

Otis

Otis

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1 hour ago, Mark 'expert' Lawrenson said:

No surprise that on the day there is great news that deaths are down to 17 Boris warns us that a third wave is on the way.

I understand caution but  I feel frightening the public into submission has been used too often.

We’re doing a great job with vaccinations and bringing hospitalisation and deaths down but  trying to spread fear again and potentially stalling on opening things up will be a bitter pill for many to swallow.

Change of tact from the Monday new variant scare stories.

Otis

Otis

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1 hour ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

They'll be locked down until the summer IMO, purely because of their low vaccination levels. We've done 44 doses per 100 people, whereas Europe has done 13. I think we should just write off holidays abroad this year and go back to normality in this country, halt all forms of travel if need be, although maybe some exceptions can be made for people who want to visit family elsewhere. Like Deb says, lets get normality back, even if it is only domestically.

If by say August everyone has had the vaccine, what would be the danger of anyone travelling abroad?

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Leicester_Loyal

Leicester_Loyal

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Just now, Otis said:

If by say August everyone has had the vaccine, what would be the danger of anyone travelling abroad?

Honestly, I don't know, it's just fairly obviously to me it isn't gonna happen.

 

I just want to live a normal life, I'm fed up of it at the minute, it's really getting me down on occasions now.

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Jimothy

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11 minutes ago, Otis said:

If by say August everyone has had the vaccine, what would be the danger of anyone travelling abroad?

I really don't understand the desperation. Sure its nice to go abroad a get some sun and relax, but two weeks on a beach in Spain isn't life, its just a very small part of it. I want life back, I want to see friends and family, I want to be able to go pub, or a restaurant without a seconds thought or having to prebook, although that would do for now. I want to be able to go shopping, cinema, and to the football. I want the gym to reopen. All the things that make everyday life enjoyable and bearable. Once every day life is back to some kind of normality then my brain might start thinking about when I can go abroad, but not whilst I'm stuck in the house every night binging on Netflix series. Can't think about when I can leave the country if I can barely leave the house.

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Dan

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3 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

17 deaths today.

 

I've just put the figure in my group chat, a 28 year old healthy lad is saying we've opened up too early and we shouldn't be opening anything up until we've vaccinated everyone twice, because the vaccine isn't 100%. When I said 17 people is a minimal amount in the grand scheme of life and death, we're right to be opening up soon 'It's still 17 too many, you'd feel different if it was someone close to you'. These people are insane. I always always always try to look at other peoples viewpoints, but I really can't see how anyone can think locking down for another year is the answer, it defies all logic.

 

At this point I genuinely believe a lot of those that want lockdown for another few months aren't missing out on anything by being in lockdown, they aren't financially disadvantaged by it, or they're scared shitless because the Goverment and the media have caused them to be.

It's been obvious for a while to be honest. Just best to treat them with the contempt they deserve.

Super_horns

Super_horns

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Carers to be forced to have the vaccine?

 

Don't think this will go down too well..

 

I can see why the Government want them to have it but people won't want to be forced to.

 

https://twitter.com/benrileysmith/status/1374117899007311881

 

Also so long as the residents in these care homes are vaccinated they should be a lot more protected from getting seriously ill if carers do get COVID. 
 
And these carers would I presume still be wearing PPE and following the usual guidelines like everyone else is supposed to in such places?
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DennisNedry

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Surprised nobody has pointed out that there wasn't 17 deaths today, that's the reported figure which will be artificially low due to the weekend. Of course, figures later in the week will be artificially high as registrations catch up.

 

Looking at the figures by actual date of death (not reported date), we look to currently be at around 60 deaths per day, although this is falling with each and every day that passes.

 

The first 2 graphs here https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths demonstrate the above. The first graph is the accurate one, whereas the second graph is the one that gets reported on daily.

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DennisNedry

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1 hour ago, Facecloth said:

I really don't understand the desperation. Sure its nice to go abroad a get some sun and relax, but two weeks on a beach in Spain isn't life, its just a very small part of it. I want life back, I want to see friends and family, I want to be able to go pub, or a restaurant without a seconds thought or having to prebook, although that would do for now. I want to be able to go shopping, cinema, and to the football. I want the gym to reopen. All the things that make everyday life enjoyable and bearable. Once every day life is back to some kind of normality then my brain might start thinking about when I can go abroad, but not whilst I'm stuck in the house every night binging on Netflix series. Can't think about when I can leave the country if I can barely leave the house.

A thousand times this.

 

I couldn't care less if international travel is banned until next year summer, personally.

 

I just want to be able to have a day-to-day life that doesn't depress the shit out of me anymore.

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yorkie1999

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2 hours ago, KrefelderFox666 said:

How about rather than jump the gun, let people ease back before something else crops up like a variant and sets us back to square one. I am happy to open up and it makes sense, but I wouldn't go from 10,000 fans at Wembley on 20 June to 90,000 fans at Wembley one day later (just as an example). Let's not forget that by then all pubs, restaurants are fully open in and outside. The only difference that tables may still be spaced out a bit.

 

What would be ideal to test (as I mentioned above) is to increase capacities of indoor and outdoor venues like music and sport over many weeks culiminating in full capacity by early into the PL season.

 

Assuming vaccinations go well and there are no further major variants/outbreaks, Covid should become manageable like the flu (possibly even replacing the flu).

 

I think the biggest problem about the June easing is the ambiguity of it. It sounds like everything will go back to pre March 2020 but pretty sure that is not what the Government intend.

A variant could happen anytime if covid remains in society, which it possibly could for years to come, one minute we could be managing it and the next, it could explode again, that could be in 6 months or in 6 years. We cannot lock down forever, and we cannot expect the government to control the population like they are doing forever,  and people are going to have to deal with it. We need to end lock down asap and hope for the best. 

Dan

Dan

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24 minutes ago, DennisNedry said:

Surprised nobody has pointed out that there wasn't 17 deaths today, that's the reported figure which will be artificially low due to the weekend. Of course, figures later in the week will be artificially high as registrations catch up.

 

Looking at the figures by actual date of death (not reported date), we look to currently be at around 60 deaths per day, although this is falling with each and every day that passes.

 

The first 2 graphs here https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths demonstrate the above. The first graph is the accurate one, whereas the second graph is the one that gets reported on daily.

I was judging it based on what it was this time a week ago, always the most accurate way, it was a quite significant drop.

Nod.E

Nod.E

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1 hour ago, Legend_in_blue said:

https://www.find-tender.service.gov.uk/notice/005534-2021

 

Wow.  £2 million to continue the marketing campaign for the next couple of years.  Who's signing up?

As ridiculous as this may sound, £2 million is nothing. 

 

I'm in media buying, and to put this into some sort of context, a cycling client of mine that you're unlikely to have heard of spends that each year.

 

This is the government of the country we're talking about and effectively they are committing to half of that as it's for two years.

 

It'll just about be enough for a couple of seasonal multichannel bursts. Reminders to get jab boosters, perhaps. You see and hear the flu ads every year and think nothing of it, I'm taking this is as a sign that the expectation is for COVID to be relegated to flu's level of attention over the next two years.

BecGriff9

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A year since we went in to lockdown, having our own business supplying PPE I can honestly say it’s been an extremely tough year but also thankful that we didn’t have to furlough anyone and kept everyone in a job. Yes we are lucky we were in the right industry but it’s still been hard. This article features my wife (last interview) to give you a perspective of the challenges we faced.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-56488466

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KrefelderFox666

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9 hours ago, Facecloth said:

I really don't understand the desperation. Sure its nice to go abroad a get some sun and relax, but two weeks on a beach in Spain isn't life, its just a very small part of it. I want life back, I want to see friends and family, I want to be able to go pub, or a restaurant without a seconds thought or having to prebook, although that would do for now. I want to be able to go shopping, cinema, and to the football. I want the gym to reopen. All the things that make everyday life enjoyable and bearable. Once every day life is back to some kind of normality then my brain might start thinking about when I can go abroad, but not whilst I'm stuck in the house every night binging on Netflix series. Can't think about when I can leave the country if I can barely leave the house.

Some people like to go abroad and travel. Some people don't like to go the pub. It might be fine for you to wait for going abroad but other people are craving it. Could they go natiinally, yes but it might not give them what they need. I guess people also want to feel free again.

 

Would you be OK not going the pub until next year?

 

It's all a fine balancing act but I don't think international travel will happen unless the destination country is deemed "safe" enough.

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