Fifa World Cup 2022 - Qatar

[Jattdogg]

I honestly don't care for this world cup. Qatar is a joke as is the way it treated migrant workers.

 

Football is simply corrupt.

 

 

[CosbehFox]

Beautiful 

[RoboFox]

The closer we get the more horror stories you hear and the angrier people are getting about this fvcking mess of a tournament. If anything it's serving to highlight everything that is wrong with football, the Qatari regime and what they stand for. 

 

Sorry, but I hope it's a disaster and a humiliation for FIFA and Qatar.

 

FIFA needs burning to the ground and we need to start again. 

 

Edited 15 November 2022 by RoboFox

[st albans fox]

Call me a cynic but if we have a situation where some captains are wearing rainbow armbands and some not, are we likely to see some VAR calls going the way of those who aren’t as the tournament progresses - less embarrassing for fifa and the hosts  …

[Stuntman_Mike]

I might be in the minority it seems but I'm really excited for the world cup starting.

 

Away from the obvious problems, I'm looking forward to the sporting side of things.

 

International football isn't about buying the best squad, it's about working with what you have available which is great.

[Daggers]

[CosbehFox]

Said to OH last night when flicked past that FIFA doc on Netflix. 

 

Reality is honestly I can't watch stuff like because I know they are corrupt and know that they don't care. Only for the cash. So I don't depress myself worrying about. 

 

We've been here before - the World Cup is a geopolitical tool since time forgot. Argentina 78 has some fairly large comparables with this edition. 

 

Collectively as an audience, we've all bought into the various stages of financial doping, globalisation, over-covered in Football. The chance to reclaim it back IMO has gone. We've all sat there on some shit kick-off time 

[Guest Lako42]

Imagine if they killed the people who have died building the stadiums during the game. 

 

 

 

Still enjoy the sporting spectacle or too difficult to ignore?

[davieG]

It seems a tad hypocritical to criticise the choice of Qatar when we've formed close alliances with them and allowed them to buy up key parts of England.

 

A key ally of the West - unlike China and Russia - and now reportedly the 10th biggest landowner in the UK, with Heathrow, Harrods and the Shard among its many British investments, Qatar insists the notoriety of its World Cup is unfair.

 

Same with the other dodgy countries like Saudi Arabia, China and Russia.

[Footballwipe]

1 hour ago, CosbehFox said:

Said to OH last night when flicked past that FIFA doc on Netflix. 

 

Reality is honestly I can't watch stuff like because I know they are corrupt and know that they don't care. Only for the cash. So I don't depress myself worrying about. 

 

We've been here before - the World Cup is a geopolitical tool since time forgot. Argentina 78 has some fairly large comparables with this edition. 

 

Collectively as an audience, we've all bought into the various stages of financial doping, globalisation, over-covered in Football. The chance to reclaim it back IMO has gone. We've all sat there on some shit kick-off time 

I watched the first episode of this last week. I thought it was good in terms of charting the rise of Sepp Blatter (though I'd also highly recommend the books How They Stole the Game by David Yallop (1998) and The Ugly Game by Heidi Blake and Jonathan Calvert.)

 

Problem I had with the documentary is that they have interviews with the people who have done the corruption and of course, instead of talking about their indiscretions, it's a big old spin. I guess it's down to being fair, but still ruins it a bit.

 

Let's be honest, the one member one vote is a real issue of FIFA. Send some backhanders and promise the world to keep blocks of nations happy and they'll vote as a group. That's how Havelange and Blatter managed to keep themselves in their power.

[hackenbacker]

20 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

watched the first episode of this last week. I thought it was good in terms of charting the rise of Sepp Blatter (though I'd also highly recommend the books How They Stole the Game by David Yallop (1998) and The Ugly Game by Heidi Blake and Jonathan Calvert.)

 

Problem I had with the documentary is that they have interviews with the people who have done the corruption and of course, instead of talking about their indiscretions, it's a big old spin. I guess it's down to being fair, but still ruins it a bit.

 

Let's be honest, the one member one vote is a real issue of FIFA. Send some backhanders and promise the world to keep blocks of nations happy and they'll vote as a group. That's how Havelange and Blatter managed to keep themselves in their power.

I tried to watch it but fell asleep 

 

[CosbehFox]

21 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

I watched the first episode of this last week. I thought it was good in terms of charting the rise of Sepp Blatter (though I'd also highly recommend the books How They Stole the Game by David Yallop (1998) and The Ugly Game by Heidi Blake and Jonathan Calvert.)

 

Problem I had with the documentary is that they have interviews with the people who have done the corruption and of course, instead of talking about their indiscretions, it's a big old spin. I guess it's down to being fair, but still ruins it a bit.

 

Let's be honest, the one member one vote is a real issue of FIFA. Send some backhanders and promise the world to keep blocks of nations happy and they'll vote as a group. That's how Havelange and Blatter managed to keep themselves in their power.

Excellent point on the last paragraph. They have made a process so political that it’s made it worse rather than better. 
 

We have the iceberg of the extended World Cup soon. That actually makes more angry. 
 

But then I have this theory about how sport has oversaturated itself in the goal of more money and it utterly pisses me off 

[Super_horns]

Lloris might get some criticism for this action ?

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/hugo-lloris-rainbow-armband-france-b2225327.html?amp

[Manley Farrington-Brown]

3 hours ago, davieG said:

It seems a tad hypocritical to criticise the choice of Qatar when we've formed close alliances with them and allowed them to buy up key parts of England.

 

Same with the other dodgy countries like Saudi Arabia, China and Russia.

Well seeing as I have neither formed an alliance with any of these countries nor approved them buying England, I'll continue to criticise them without a hint of hypocrisy.

[Daggers]

[ozleicester]

11 hours ago, Manley Farrington-Brown said:

Well seeing as I have neither formed an alliance with any of these countries nor approved them buying England, I'll continue to criticise them without a hint of hypocrisy.

If you were an "environmental" protester, this is the point at which some genius would point out that you drive a car using their fuel and watch their football clubs so how dare you hold a hypocritical opinion or action...   

[hackenbacker]

15 hours ago, davieG said:

It seems a tad hypocritical to criticise the choice of Qatar when we've formed close alliances with them and allowed them to buy up key parts of England.

 

A key ally of the West - unlike China and Russia - and now reportedly the 10th biggest landowner in the UK, with Heathrow, Harrods and the Shard among its many British investments, Qatar insists the notoriety of its World Cup is unfair.

 

Same with the other dodgy countries like Saudi Arabia, China and Russia.

don't forget that the British government has just sold 6 billion GBP worth of  British built fighter jets to Qatar. Money that goes directly to employing British workers and from the tax these companies and employees pay to building better roads schools and supposedly hospitals in the UK. In fact if you go to https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/the-uks-military-co-operation-with-qatar-since-1971/ you will find this amazing quote "Traditionally, the UK has been one of the leading trading partners of Qatar. For example, in 2020, British exports to the country surpassed two billion dollars, only behind China ($3.3bn) and the United States ($3bn) and slightly ahead of Germany ($1.8bn)". I wonder whey you don't see these figures being quoted in the Daily Mail or the Sun? 

[Pliskin]

I really couldn’t give less of a shit about this World Cup. Just doesn’t feel right having it in the winter….

 

In terms of the hosts, Qatar aren’t alone…. There’s been many world cups that shouldn’t have been hosted in the chosen countries but went ahead anyway. Fifa are one of the most immoral organisations going! But Qatar really should not be hosting any kind of universal sporting event…. You can’t have the world celebrate a nation whose core values are so backwards they’re nearly medieval…

[Lcfc098]

Everyone crying about Qatar hosting the world cup because of the human rights issues when Russia are probably in the top 15 worst countries for human rights abuse and that was before any of this Ukraine business even started yet people seemed to have no issue with that? Half of the people are just pissed off at the fact you cannot get blacked out drunk on the streets acting like animals.

[Lcfc098]

On 06/11/2022 at 11:15, Sol thewall Bamba said:

3 workers died for every MINUTE of football played during this absolute farce. Remember that.

That's just not right though is it  Not defending what is happening to the workers over there obviously but doesn't help when you're making up fake statistics to further your agenda

[davieG]

3 minutes ago, Lcfc098 said:

Everyone crying about Qatar hosting the world cup because of the human rights issues when Russia are probably in the top 15 worst countries for human rights abuse and that was before any of this Ukraine business even started yet people seemed to have no issue with that? Half of the people are just pissed off at the fact you cannot get blacked out drunk on the streets acting like animals.

I think there are two sides two the problem of Qatar there's the cultural issues which seem to have completely blocked out, rightly or wrongly the disruption to the whole football calendar. So I doubt it's 'half' the people worried about not getting drunk.

[Sol thewall Bamba]

8 minutes ago, Lcfc098 said:

That's just not right though is it  Not defending what is happening to the workers over there obviously but doesn't help when you're making up fake statistics to further your agenda

Ah no you're right, it's one death per minute. Hope that makes you feel better and my "agenda" of not wanting people to die to stage the world cup doesn't make you feel uncomfortable 👍

[Guest Lako42]

5 minutes ago, Lcfc098 said:

That's just not right though is it  Not defending what is happening to the workers over there obviously but doesn't help when you're making up fake statistics to further your agenda

How many is acceptable for you? 

[Lcfc098]

 

1 minute ago, Lako42 said:

How many is acceptable for you? 

That's my point though. Workers died whilst building the world cup stadiums in Russia in 2018 yet i didnt see one person calling for it not to be hosted there. Does it only matter when it's a certain country or demographic?

[Lcfc098]

3 minutes ago, Sol thewall Bamba said:

Ah no you're right, it's one death per minute. Hope that makes you feel better and my "agenda" of not wanting people to die to stage the world cup doesn't make you feel uncomfortable 👍

Missing the whole point entirely what a surprise