filbertway Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 2 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I really wish these cvnts would stop pushing this agenda. Don't applaud Rio for this, BT Sport and the Big Six would absolutely love to drive off VAR, they're absolutely desperate for it to fail so we can go back to completely unchecked decisions and linesmen taking random guesses at offside that always benefit Salah, Kane, Mane and Co. It's not VAR that's the problem, it's the laws. West Ham haven't had a man sent off because of VAR, what has VAR got to do with that red card other than they watched the incident a few times? The problem is the laws. The laws that say that's an unsafe piece of play. VAR is just a few cameras to show you it from five thousand angles. The problem isn't that, the problem is the laws that say that a player catching someone else with his studs up is dangerous and a red regardless of context or mitigation. The problem is the ref who watched it from five thousand angles and was still stupid enough to decide it was worthy of a card. None of that is the fault of technology in sport which we absolutely should have. Naaah... I'd prefer to go back to ye olden days. Having experienced both now, I preferred it the way it was before. I don't mean to be rude, but I don't know how anyone can have watched football the past few seasons and genuinely still be for it. Aside from someone on talksport being for it purely to get calls in and be contrarian. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nabb7 Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 4 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I really wish these cvnts would stop pushing this agenda. Don't applaud Rio for this, BT Sport and the Big Six would absolutely love to drive off VAR, they're absolutely desperate for it to fail so we can go back to completely unchecked decisions and linesmen taking random guesses at offside that always benefit Salah, Kane, Mane and Co. It's not VAR that's the problem, it's the laws. West Ham haven't had a man sent off because of VAR, what has VAR got to do with that red card other than they watched the incident a few times? The problem is the laws. The laws that say that's an unsafe piece of play. VAR is just a few cameras to show you it from five thousand angles. The problem isn't that, the problem is the laws that say that a player catching someone else with his studs up is dangerous and a red regardless of context or mitigation. The problem is the ref who watched it from five thousand angles and was still stupid enough to decide it was worthy of a card. None of that is the fault of technology in sport which we absolutely should have. The laws say nothing about reviewing the incident in slow motion 10 times, to that end technology absolutely is influencing the decision. For me I want rid of VAR simply because of the effect it has on the game - holding your breath before celebrating, milimetre calls that the technology isn’t precise enough to get right, massive delays that suck the energy out of the game. I personally didn’t have a problem with referees getting things wrong pre-VAR. They’re human and as much as we moaned we moved on pretty easily. VAR on the other hand gets talked about for the wrong reasons week in week out. Bin it, and bring it back when people know how to use it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jammie82uk Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 57 minutes ago, Tuna said: I haven’t got a problem with the technology and I’m happy to have it in the game, the issue I have is with the VAR themselves and how they are interpreting the rules 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpacedX Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 13 minutes ago, Finnegan said: The problem is the ref who watched it from five thousand angles and was still stupid enough to decide it was worthy of a card. None of that is the fault of technology in sport which we absolutely should have. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NasPb Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 18 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I really wish these cvnts would stop pushing this agenda. Don't applaud Rio for this, BT Sport and the Big Six would absolutely love to drive off VAR, they're absolutely desperate for it to fail so we can go back to completely unchecked decisions and linesmen taking random guesses at offside that always benefit Salah, Kane, Mane and Co. It's not VAR that's the problem, it's the laws. West Ham haven't had a man sent off because of VAR, what has VAR got to do with that red card other than they watched the incident a few times? The problem is the laws. The laws that say that's an unsafe piece of play. VAR is just a few cameras to show you it from five thousand angles. The problem isn't that, the problem is the laws that say that a player catching someone else with his studs up is dangerous and a red regardless of context or mitigation. The problem is the ref who watched it from five thousand angles and was still stupid enough to decide it was worthy of a card. None of that is the fault of technology in sport which we absolutely should have. BINGO! The referees are the issue. Not var. And those who make some of these ridiculous rules 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunge Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 19 minutes ago, Finnegan said: I really wish these cvnts would stop pushing this agenda. Don't applaud Rio for this, BT Sport and the Big Six would absolutely love to drive off VAR, they're absolutely desperate for it to fail so we can go back to completely unchecked decisions and linesmen taking random guesses at offside that always benefit Salah, Kane, Mane and Co. It's not VAR that's the problem, it's the laws. West Ham haven't had a man sent off because of VAR, what has VAR got to do with that red card other than they watched the incident a few times? The problem is the laws. The laws that say that's an unsafe piece of play. VAR is just a few cameras to show you it from five thousand angles. The problem isn't that, the problem is the laws that say that a player catching someone else with his studs up is dangerous and a red regardless of context or mitigation. The problem is the ref who watched it from five thousand angles and was still stupid enough to decide it was worthy of a card. None of that is the fault of technology in sport which we absolutely should have. Disagree. I’ve never wanted VAR from the start, but I’ve reached the point now where I don’t even care whether it’s getting decisions right or not. VAR’s very existence meant that I had to sit there and wait for a kick-off on Thursday because I didn’t know whether Vardy’s goal would be offside by a toenail. It’s excruciatingly horrible and I hate it. If video assistance can’t provide a decision in real time, it’s not fit for purpose. In fact, I’m convinced that VAR will never be good enough to do that. And that’s why it has to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 In my var world that brighton goal would stand .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox in the North Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 Just now, st albans fox said: In my var world that brighton goal would stand .......... I think defenders should be shot for letting someone come all the way back to beat them to the ball. I don’t see how Moder gained any advantage whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 1 minute ago, Fox in the North said: I think defenders should be shot for letting someone come all the way back to beat them to the ball. I don’t see how Moder gained any advantage whatsoever He was offside - simples but the lino didn’t give to so let’s just keep the goal .....only use var to re instate goals that have been incorrectly disallowed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Dunge said: Disagree. I’ve never wanted VAR from the start, but I’ve reached the point now where I don’t even care whether it’s getting decisions right or not. VAR’s very existence meant that I had to sit there and wait for a kick-off on Thursday because I didn’t know whether Vardy’s goal would be offside by a toenail. It’s excruciatingly horrible and I hate it. If video assistance can’t provide a decision in real time, it’s not fit for purpose. In fact, I’m convinced that VAR will never be good enough to do that. And that’s why it has to die. I never celebrated the Vardy goal either as i thought he was offside and by the time it was confirmed the moment as over. I believe in VAR because it should get more correct decisions but for the spectacle of the sport it's a disaster as you can't fully celebrate most goals because you know there is a very reasonable chance it gets struck off. Does anyone know the percentage of goals that get cancelled by VAR? Edited 24 April 2021 by Gerard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegaffer9 Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 39 minutes ago, RowlattsFox said: We don't know the discussion between the ref and var ref. But if Var ref says I think you should look at it then I think it usually means he thinks it's a red. Then the on field ref is going to look again with that already in mind, only strong refs will then stick with their original decision. And that is one place where VAR falls down -the discussion should be available to be broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 Maupay how's he missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horse's Mouth Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 24 minutes ago, st albans fox said: In my var world that brighton goal would stand .......... He's miles offside though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 Just now, The Horse's Mouth said: He's miles offside though Shit happens ........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 (edited) Putting the glove on the other hand for a moment, Nacho's last-minute winner against Everton - chalked off by the lino but given thanks to VAR - was euphoric. The system needs changing and streamlining, but there's no doubting it's resulted in the letter of the law being followed more frequently. And as many have said, it's those laws that need changing. The "Wenger" offside law is a good step towards changing that for the better and making sure those lines drawn arbitrarily at Stockley Park are a little less laughable. Edited 24 April 2021 by OntarioFox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corky Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 Sky's advert for the League Cup Final couldn't be any less dramatic. The fans sound as uninspired as most are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Aus Fox Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 1 hour ago, filbertway said: It'd be a freak if they did. They're a couple of players and good luck from being a top half team. It's not being a hipster to know that, it's just watching them play and seeing how well Potter has got them playing. The thing is people keep saying they just need a bit of luck, it’s not bad luck when it keeps happening over and over again. They keep the ball well, but, they make lapses of concentration at the back and are woeful in front of goal and this is why they are struggling. If they do go down, it won’t be a freak it will be because over 38 games they were one of the three worst teams in the league. Regardless of how well you knock the ball around, if you can’t score repeatedly it’s because you’re a poor team going forward and you deserve to go down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 2 minutes ago, Aus Fox said: The thing is people keep saying they just need a bit of luck, it’s not bad luck when it keeps happening over and over again. They keep the ball well, but, they make lapses of concentration at the back and are woeful in front of goal and this is why they are struggling. If they do go down, it won’t be a freak it will be because over 38 games they were one of the three worst teams in the league. Regardless of how well you knock the ball around, if you can’t score repeatedly it’s because you’re a poor team going forward and you deserve to go down. So couple of players and a bit of luck and thehll probably be top half. 12 points. I stand by what I said. If you keep doing the right things, in the long term you will do well. Potter is a superb gaffer and Brighton are a bright spark in a really dull and boring league. Massive fan of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioFox Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 14 minutes ago, Webbo said: Are we still allowed to call Perez, Kroenke, the Glazers etc. willy pullers during that weekend? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester_Loyal Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 We keep saying it but Brighton are a couple of players away from being a good side. Get Harvey Elliot on loan and sign a decent striker and they'd be laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Nacho Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 15 minutes ago, Webbo said: Bit dodgy I reckon. Lots of people get information, such as FA Cup final ticketing details on social media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filbertway Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 17 minutes ago, Webbo said: Can we go on???? Oh...we can. As you were Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Corky Posted 24 April 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 24 April 2021 All day I've heard that Jurgen Klopp spoke out against the Super League and the Liverpool owners last Monday. He didn't. He was more annoyed at the Leeds t-shirts. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 24 April 2021 Share Posted 24 April 2021 6 minutes ago, filbertway said: So couple of players and a bit of luck and thehll probably be top half. 12 points. I stand by what I said. If you keep doing the right things, in the long term you will do well. Potter is a superb gaffer and Brighton are a bright spark in a really dull and boring league. Massive fan of them It’s the luck part I have an issue with, you make your own luck. The odd game you can be unlucky, when it happens repeatedly like with Brighton it has nothing to do with luck and is down to really poor finishing that they haven’t addressed. Its poor defending, repeatedly in close games - it’s not luck, they are not good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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