Cadno'r Cymoedd Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 4 minutes ago, Ricey said: Expected Liverpool to win, but expected Chelsea to lose. Relying on a turgid Everton to save my weekend is a low. Spurs went OK though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simFox Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 Well at least we aren't relegated... stuff the league/euro, get the Cup and start a new season without having to play midweek games in Europe. (Work with me here! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 4 minutes ago, Matt said: You crazy bastard! Glutton for punishment? I had to take pain killers to get through it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 1 minute ago, SheppyFox said: The lads need a right kick up the backside, they’ve had last years utter capitulation as maturing time. If they don’t somehow recover now then they’ve not learned and it’ll be a rebuild job next year, fed up of Brendan insisting on a small squad too. Whilst I agree i'd like to think they're embarrassed, atleast they should be and that alone should be the only kick up the backside they need. Take some ****ing self pride in their performances. Dig in, fight, use the frustration and embarrassment to push you on and improve. This is more than just wanting to see 'pashun', this is doing the basics and getting things right something we're failing to see at the moment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 5 minutes ago, Tom12345 said: On a more negative look, Liverpool is a team that can put a winning run together. If they win their game in hand, they will only be 3 pts behind us. Even if we beat Spurs (but lose the other two), it may not be good enough. Also, I remember people were saying Southampton and Newcastle were there for 6 points. Easy taking. We got 1 point. No, if Newcastle did 4 on us, Spurs could do even more on us. Well you have contradicted yourself the league has been pretty unpredictable, why will Liverpool win all.. we could too, who knows, we know we can step up and string something together Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxOnWheels Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 7 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Well you have contradicted yourself the league has been pretty unpredictable, why will Liverpool win all.. we could too, who knows, we know we can step up and string something together Mid way through the season maybe but when it comes to crunch time we don’t have the personality for it, for me it comes from Rodgers too I think he’s a very good manager but looks like he struggles to get the players heads right when it comes to the run in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunbury Fox Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 13 minutes ago, trabuch said: What a shit weekend. But I'm keeping the faith. You're a better man than me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzFOX Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 I think BR is too soft. Imagine if it was Alex Ferguson in his position? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 2 minutes ago, FoxOnWheels said: Mid way through the season maybe but when it comes to crunch time we don’t have the personality for it, for me it comes from Rodgers too I think he’s a very good manager but looks like he struggles to get the players heads right when it comes to the run in Let’s see, I think the players know they have let the fans down and will ensure they do their best on the 3 games left and cup final. It isn’t over yet, anyone who says it is are those that will hold a white flag when going gets tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chocolate Teapot Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 1 minute ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Let’s see, I think the players know they have let the fans down and will ensure they do their best on the 3 games left and cup final. It isn’t over yet, anyone who says it is are those that will hold a white flag when going gets tough What like maddison putting it right on the pitch after his misdemeanours....as if. Half of them couldn't give a **** and will spend the summer agitating for a move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxOnWheels Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 3 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Let’s see, I think the players know they have let the fans down and will ensure they do their best on the 3 games left and cup final. It isn’t over yet, anyone who says it is are those that will hold a white flag when going gets tough I think the opposite the people who think it is probably over are the ones who see what courage and stronger mentality is and can see it’s nowhere to be found on the pitch currently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 (edited) 19 minutes ago, FoxOnWheels said: Mid way through the season maybe but when it comes to crunch time we don’t have the personality for it, for me it comes from Rodgers too I think he’s a very good manager but looks like he struggles to get the players heads right when it comes to the run in Yeah ... something is not right ... in 15/16, even though Ranieri helped to release pressure in the media, you can see the players believed in themselves and they showed strong desire. They fought. Nowadays, only Kasper, Evans, Vardy and Albrighton show that. You can see desperation in their eyes and body language. The rest have been taught to keep possession and pass back first. As I said after the WBA game, it could be very damaging to mentality when Rodgers had a go at them for playing “badly” in the first half even though we scored and created so many chances, but praised them for “controlling” the game when we did not create much! This plays into player instincts. It is always safety first rather than having a go. Compared to Tuchel, I really like how he instills a winning mentality based on what he says in media. (eg. he had a go at Chilwell the other day for not closing down crosses - we never saw that from Rodgers.) Winning coaches do not tell his team to take foot off the gas. Edited 8 May 2021 by Tom12345 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxOnWheels Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 2 minutes ago, Tom12345 said: Yeah ... something is not right ... in 15/16, even though Ranieri helped to release pressure in the media, you can see the players believed in themselves and they showed strong desire. They fought. Nowadays, only Kasper, Evans, Vardy and Albrighton show that. You can see desperation in their eyes and body language. The rest have been taught to keep possession and pass back first. As I said after the WBA game, it could be very damaging to mentality when Rodgers had a go at them playing badly in the first half when we scored and created so many chances but praised them for “controlling” the game when we did not create much. This plays into player instincts. Compared to Tuchel, I really like how he instills a winning mentality based on what he says in media. He had a go at Chilwell the other day for not closing down crosses - we never saw that from Rodgers. Winning coaches do not take foot off pedal. Exactly how I view the situation too! I’d of rather us threw the manual out the window last 5 games of season and just play fast aggressive football. For me I wanted him to dig the lads out after last night and try get a response from them the fact he didn’t tells me they probably haven’t got the ‘character’ he bangs on about to take that criticism and be driven to do better. It’s like we hope to just fall over the line and qualify when it gets tough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnewty Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 15 minutes ago, cruzFOX said: I think BR is too soft. Imagine if it was Alex Ferguson in his position? Balls are required now and it's from the players individually not the manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 3 minutes ago, FoxOnWheels said: Exactly how I view the situation too! I’d of rather us threw the manual out the window last 5 games of season and just play fast aggressive football. For me I wanted him to dig the lads out after last night and try get a response from them the fact he didn’t tells me they probably haven’t got the ‘character’ he bangs on about to take that criticism and be driven to do better. It’s like we hope to just fall over the line and qualify when it gets tough Yeah. Great description you have there. It does feel very much that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 Down to 48% on the stats tables for top 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxes_rule1978 Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 13 minutes ago, FoxOnWheels said: I think the opposite the people who think it is probably over are the ones who see what courage and stronger mentality is and can see it’s nowhere to be found on the pitch currently Enough to get us a cup final and second highest points total in the PL... would you rather we went back to being nobodies? with nothing to play for other than the hope of not getting relegated... wake up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 O well, looks like CL is beyond us again!.. Suppose I'll have to take on the positives and be thankful we will finish at least higher than The Arse and probably The Spuds! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom12345 Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, dnewty said: Balls are required now and it's from the players individually not the manager. Rodgers is the leader, the general. It is more about how he rallies his troops now. Otherwise what is he there for? Edited 8 May 2021 by Tom12345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Always Next Year Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 We turn up like Friday and Chelsea will rip us to shreds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxOnWheels Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 2 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Enough to get us a cup final and second highest points total in the PL... would you rather we went back to being nobodies? with nothing to play for other than the hope of not getting relegated... wake up What? No but I don’t dwell on the past we’ve progressed from that massively so we need to lift our standards with that too! The problem is for 2 seasons we see we are good enough for top 4 over 34 games of the season then go to shit so feels as though we have under achieved when dropping out of the top 4 so late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grebfromgrebland Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 Brendan won't be here next season if we don't get top 4. I feel like we've already lost the fa cup final - Chelsea are immense. Gosens and Soumere won't come and we'll have to sell one of our stars if not 2. We really need top 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom12345 Posted 8 May 2021 Popular Post Share Posted 8 May 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, foxes_rule1978 said: Enough to get us a cup final and second highest points total in the PL... would you rather we went back to being nobodies? with nothing to play for other than the hope of not getting relegated... wake up I am actually with @FoxOnWheels on this. It was enough to get to where we are now and where we were last season before the collapse because we are actually a good team with very good players, despite the excuses we sometimes make. Many others would dream to have our squad. But when we get to the business end of the season, what is needed and what will get us there is mentality, desire and approach. I think the players still have something in them, but I think Rodgers has instilled too much safety first mentality in them now it is coming back to haunt us at this end of the season when we just need to go for it. We can still do it, but the first person to change mindset is probably Rodgers himself. Edited 8 May 2021 by Tom12345 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnewty Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 3 minutes ago, Tom12345 said: Rodgers is the leader, the general. It is more about how he rallies his troops now. Otherwise what is he there for? As inderviduals these players should really want it now. Rodgers tactics for me are pretty much irrelevant for these final games. As inderviduals and collectively do they really want it ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnewty Posted 8 May 2021 Share Posted 8 May 2021 Individually and collectively do we have any bollocks ? That's the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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