Leeds Fox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 26 minutes ago, Facecloth said: So if that the case how do we explain his targeting other black players mentioned over their attitude, two of whom I don't think have been anything other model pros. And his character assassination of Kean that had absolutely no basis and was just completely made up in his head. I’m not going to try and explain that away. I’ve no idea what he thinks. I haven’t seen his character assassination of those other players so I can’t comment anyway. I could see the possible difference in perception between Ozil and Pogba. That was meant to be my point rather than defending Souness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facecloth Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 Just now, Leeds Fox said: I’m not going to try and explain that away. I’ve no idea what he thinks. I haven’t seen his character assassination of those other players so I can’t comment anyway. I could see the possible difference in perception between Ozil and Pogba. That was meant to be my point rather than defending Souness. Fair enough, just on those two, that is a big difference. But is it enough for Souness constantly go on about Pogba even when hes not playing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 20 minutes ago, casablancas said: Ok. I have one comment. Racism is rife in English football and more so is inequality and discrimination. Show me a top BAME manager coach across the top 2 leagues? A BAME referee? I mean just look at the reaction Sian Massey got when she first appeared in the English game? Yet she’s become for me one of the better linesperson. I think this discussion Is important and I openly admire to being a BLM advocate and have spoken strongly on it before. I have had many a call out with posters on here. But the rhetoric of BAME / female pundit being picked to fill ‘quotas’ needs to shift. We need to change the culture of football. The fact that people think sky and the like are doing this to fill a quota shows exactly where we went wrong. Perhaps a ‘quota’ is needed because of a lack of opportunity for BAME? It’s a well known fact society in general has in not so recent past (to my own shame) the past been extraordinarily discriminatory. So because of people of a BAME decent being held back for so long as a people (yes there are odd individual success stories) that now positive discrimination is the only way forward! Has anyone who’s against it actually thought about why it’s on place? As for the original argument. I don’t know if Souness is a racist as I do not know. But he’s a sh1te pundit and a miserable tw@. But the reaction to the change of sky’s soccer Saturday pundits and the sh1t that went with it goes to show how backwards some football fans are, I certainly include some of our fans in that and others from here whom I have had open and frank discussions with over the BML protests and other threads. But I think we all need to accept that racism and discrimination is rife. But can we back to football please? @Facecloth I gave up trying to change opinions on here a while ago. That was despite providing statistics which backed up my narrative. But I still do my bit and still fly my banner promoting BLM and have a face mask with pro BLM slogans on it. Funnily enough I have had run ins with knuckle draggers routinely. Even some coont asked the banner to be removed, I was so in awe of the request that once I processed the thoughts and reflected it I felt nothing but an overwhelming pity for the waste of oxygen. That blind to the need for change during a time like this??? Poor poor lad. We could do with someone ‘coming out’ to really get things going ......it’s not just racism that ingrained in the psyche ...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 IF there is any truth in this whatsoever then why don’t we go for him .. every time I’ve seen him he looks good and at that price (or even higher) he’d be a steal ... then maybe we could let Demi go on loan or even sell. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 5 minutes ago, Countryfox said: IF there is any truth in this whatsoever then why don’t we go for him .. every time I’ve seen him he looks good and at that price (or even higher) he’d be a steal ... then maybe we could let Demi go on loan or even sell. Perhaps cos we’ve just got someone in for a loan fee of €3m ...... rather than the £25m+ this kid will cost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countryfox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 22 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Perhaps cos we’ve just got someone in for a loan fee of €3m ...... rather than the £25m+ this kid will cost Yes cus we needed someone .. URGENT ... but this in effect could be a straight swap for Gray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casablancas Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 21 minutes ago, st albans fox said: We could do with someone ‘coming out’ to really get things going ......it’s not just racism that ingrained in the psyche ...... Nah I completely agree mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casablancas Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 Is there a reason my post was removed quoting someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UniFox21 Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 The "taking the knee" prior to games, what does it actually stand for? I was under the impression it was in support of oppression/targeting of black people, including the violence from police in America. Yet Darren Lewis on sky was describing it to be centred upon black opportunities after retiring from playing the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 Spurs with a goal disallowed already. You love to see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Fox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 16 hours ago, Dr The Singh said: Me and @Master Fox have had dealings, but I can't remember Zaha You know it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 What's Jenas talking about 'It's getting too much this 'flag down thing''. The linesman did. Kane knew as he finished hence no celebration. The linesman literally did his job and Jenas is saying 'just put your flag up'. All the decisions have been correct. It's fine looking back on replays (even the very close ones) for the pundits to say 'should have put the flag up, easy decision'. But I bet if they were on the touchline they'd struggle to make such an instant decision in real time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 2 minutes ago, StanSP said: What's Jenas talking about 'It's getting too much this 'flag down thing''. The linesman did. Kane knew as he finished hence no celebration. The linesman literally did his job and Jenas is saying 'just put your flag up'. All the decisions have been correct. It's fine looking back on replays (even the very close ones) for the pundits to say 'should have put the flag up, easy decision'. But I bet if they were on the touchline they'd struggle to make such an instant decision in real time. Jenas is a flog, I’d rather see what happened there and a quick check after, than the flag goes straight up ref blow the whistle and stop the move and replays show it was the wrong call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silva Fox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 Ings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 Good goal. Lovely stuff. Ings > Kane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastAnglianFox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 id bloody love Ings here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 Awful from Dier there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 That's a great goal. Any chance we could get Ings for when Vardy finishes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StanSP Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 Very nice goal from Saints, there. Was taken well from Ings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Fox Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 1 minute ago, foxfanazer said: That's a great goal. Any chance we could get Ings for when Vardy finishes? Vardy will never finish he will go on forever 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 (edited) Busy day for VAR! Edited 20 September 2020 by Super_horns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 1 minute ago, Aus Fox said: Vardy will never finish he will go on forever Do you promise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfanazer Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 Just now, Super_horns said: They were probably right but 3 goals disallowed by VAR must be a bit soul destroying! They were all clear cut really. First one was a fairly tight offside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super_horns Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 2 minutes ago, StanSP said: Very nice goal from Saints, there. Was taken well from Ings. And it counted. Cue mass outrage from Spurs media boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trabuch Posted 20 September 2020 Share Posted 20 September 2020 Southampton are very easy on the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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