Salary Caps introduced in League One/Two

[Koke]

A flat salary cap across the board has been introduced in League One and League Two.

 

A lot of Sunderland/Charlton/Ipswich fans are complaining and they have a point. It should be based on % of income. Sunderland should be able to spend more on wages than Accrington because they have a much bigger revenue.

 

 

[Guest Fktf]

53 minutes ago, Koke said:

A flat salary cap across the board has been introduced in League One and League Two.

 

A lot of Sunderland/Charlton/Ipswich fans are complaining and they have a point. It should be based on % of income. Sunderland should be able to spend more on wages than Accrington because they have a much bigger revenue.

 

 

Depends on how much parity you want.

[Leicester_Loyal]

A salary cap would be the best thing for football IMO. With FFP the bigger teams will always be able to outspend the smaller ones, I think that's even less fair than having a sugardaddy, at least they might get bored at some point or get fed up of splashing the cash eventually.

[Mark_w]

Excellent news, the sooner there are salary caps across the board the better.

[ozleicester]

Beginning of the end.

A salary cap requires a draft system, a draft system has a single aim in ensuring all clubs get equal opportunity and therefore you end up with consistency not excitement.

No clubs will make it to the Premier league now... you will never see a wimbledon or Brentford rise up. They will be all nice and equal in the lower leagues.

[FOXYTALK]

The NFL do it a salary cap, it has different winners in a super bowl for the last 15 years. 

[ozleicester]

1 hour ago, FOXYTALK said:

The NFL do it a salary cap, it has different winners in a super bowl for the last 15 years. 

yes,,,exactly my point, everyone takes turns to win, and the best mediocre side wins the cup.

 

entertainment not sport

[Nalis]

8 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

A salary cap would be the best thing for football IMO. With FFP the bigger teams will always be able to outspend the smaller ones, I think that's even less fair than having a sugardaddy, at least they might get bored at some point or get fed up of splashing the cash eventually.

I agree with the above but the issue would be the threat of driving the big clubs towards a breakaway league.

[Leicester_Loyal]

2 minutes ago, Nalis said:

I agree with the above but the issue would be the threat of driving the big clubs towards a breakaway league.

I honestly wouldn't care about that anymore.

 

At least I wouldn't have to watch Sky Sports rim the big club off for 90 minutes straight while the other one gets forgotten about.

[davieG]

2 hours ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

I honestly wouldn't care about that anymore.

 

At least I wouldn't have to watch Sky Sports rim the big club off for 90 minutes straight while the other one gets forgotten about.

The problem is too many other clubs aspire to be part of that group and there's the danger they could go with them and that include LCFC, Everton, WHU, Wolves. So you could end up with mini league of 10 clubs where the top 4 of Chelsea, Man C, Man U, Liverpool would still dominate.

[Manwell Pablo]

12 hours ago, ozleicester said:

Beginning of the end.

A salary cap requires a draft system, a draft system has a single aim in ensuring all clubs get equal opportunity and therefore you end up with consistency not excitement.

No clubs will make it to the Premier league now... you will never see a wimbledon or Brentford rise up. They will be all nice and equal in the lower leagues.

 

6 hours ago, ozleicester said:

yes,,,exactly my point, everyone takes turns to win, and the best mediocre side wins the cup.

 

entertainment not sport

It doesn’t require a draft system at all.

 

Very strange opinion for a raging Commy to have I’ve got to say.

 

Depends what the cap is,  clearly this hasn’t been bought in for sporting reasons it’s to stop these clubs getting themselves into the kind of financial ruin so many have got themselves into over the last 10 years.

[Silebyfox_89]

It makes sense! it's been voted in to protect the future of clubs in financial difficulty, last thing we want is another Bury, Bolton or Macclesfield. At least with this there will be an element of control stopping excessive sums of money for players or agents, it will force teams to operate more openly. I'm a big fan of the NFL and the salary cap is a good thing and should be embraced across all of the leagues, otherwise it will bottom out once the SKY money runs dry.

[The Horse's Mouth]

This is a daft idea which will only cement the teams in the top 2 divisions

[Guest Kopfkino]

6 hours ago, Silebyfox_89 said:

It makes sense! it's been voted in to protect the future of clubs in financial difficulty, last thing we want is another Bury, Bolton or Macclesfield. At least with this there will be an element of control stopping excessive sums of money for players or agents, it will force teams to operate more openly. I'm a big fan of the NFL and the salary cap is a good thing and should be embraced across all of the leagues, otherwise it will bottom out once the SKY money runs dry.

 

But if you want to protect finances then why isn't it linked to income? As it stands Accrington could increase their wage bill by about 2/3rds to meet the cap which presumably wouldn't do much good for their financial outlook. They already have a rule that clubs can't spend more than x% of their income on wages, they could have tweaked that if it was about financial stability. What it's really about is the EFL have to maintain their commitment to being utterly useless in everything they do. 

[filbertway]

11 hours ago, Kopfkino said:

 

But if you want to protect finances then why isn't it linked to income? As it stands Accrington could increase their wage bill by about 2/3rds to meet the cap which presumably wouldn't do much good for their financial outlook. They already have a rule that clubs can't spend more than x% of their income on wages, they could have tweaked that if it was about financial stability. What it's really about is the EFL have to maintain their commitment to being utterly useless in everything they do. 

This is what I was thinking. It is essentially going to let some clubs spend way above their means and force others to spend well below their means. It's just ill-thought out and really dumb.

[Fox in the North]

They’ve had a “cap” of sorts for a while now but it was a percentage of their income. Now it is a flat salary cap across the leagues.

[RonnieTodger]

Accrington may already be spending below the proposed salary cap. 

 

The current spending of EFL clubs is just not sustainable. Sunderland fans can moan but its their reckless spending on shite that's seen them in such a mess. 

[ealingfox]

On 09/08/2020 at 03:06, ozleicester said:

Beginning of the end.

A salary cap requires a draft system, a draft system has a single aim in ensuring all clubs get equal opportunity and therefore you end up with consistency not excitement.

No clubs will make it to the Premier league now... you will never see a wimbledon or Brentford rise up. They will be all nice and equal in the lower leagues.

 

Brentford who famously have risen up the league by paying massive wages and outspending their competitors?

[Footballwipe]

53 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

Accrington may already be spending below the proposed salary cap. 

 

The current spending of EFL clubs is just not sustainable. Sunderland fans can moan but its their reckless spending on shite that's seen them in such a mess. 

Quite. I can see the arguments about solidifying the top two divisions, but equally the priority should be the long-term sustainability of the clubs in tiers three and four. Do they want the "American Dream" style, where they can splurge in a vain attempt to get to the top, or do they want to be fiscally sustainable so we don't see constant repeats of Bury, Bolton and the plethora of other clubs who are perpetually and constantly in financial peril.

 

There's still work to do. The Championship needs to be reigned in. Clubs spending 200% of their income on wages is crazy. The PL feels like a horse that has bolted, and you'd need to bring most of the world in on any cap there. The PL is so global it'd probably argue the ridiculous wages are paramount to secure the top talent required to ensure it remains the draw it is. Problem is, when you've got a behemoth like the PL and not a closed shop you're going to get a horrible imbalance in finances between divisions.

 

But the L1&L2 caps are a start. It's the chance for players, agents and ego-centric owners to take stock and realise that no longer are they in control as the cap limits spending and it will hopefully see a vast reduction in the number of teams suffering financial strife.

 

 

[Manwell Pablo]

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/salary-cap-league-one-efl-sunderland-ipswich-portsmouth-574179
 

A bit more detail on how it will work, current big earners are only being charged at the average player wage in terms of the cap, so the bigger teams should have some scope to bring in players on  bigger wages.

 

Like I said it’s to stop a big increase in the already alarming number of clubs getting into financial trouble,  due to potential Coronavirus issues. These clubs rely on crowds far more than the top two divisions. It’s probably not even a permanent thing. 

[Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot]

So what if a team like say, West ham or Newcastle get relegated 2 seasons in a row and have a bunch of players earning 70+k they can't get rid of? 

[goody2028]

1 hour ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

So what if a team like say, West ham or Newcastle get relegated 2 seasons in a row and have a bunch of players earning 70+k they can't get rid of? 

@ Jack Rodwell

[UniFox21]

 

Simon Jordan is usually a tit, but speaks lot of sense here. 

[Corky]

I agree more with Simon Jordan's stance that it shouldn't be a fixed amount but as a percentage of a club's income, but something had to be done. Wages are spiralling out of control (at all levels) and the money won't be available in full for a while yet with the crowd restrictions. Players will still get a relatively good wage even at the lowest level compared to the man on the street and I don't buy all this about a short career- 15/ 20 years is a bloody long career and when that's done, why can't they train for another profession?

 

It's not about stifling ambition, it's making sure clubs can cope with their cost levels. It may even bring ticket prices down and get more people through the gate. Clubs will adapt and adjust in the long run.

 

The first steps on a positive journey.

[Manwell Pablo]

18 hours ago, Steve_Guppy_Left_Foot said:

So what if a team like say, West ham or Newcastle get relegated 2 seasons in a row and have a bunch of players earning 70+k they can't get rid of? 

See above, if you have existing players all are charged at the average salary of the league as obviously you cannot change your entire squad immediately. If you resign them then their full wage counts.