foxinsocks Posted 28 August 2020 Author Posted 28 August 2020 16 minutes ago, Collymore said: Yeah the whole team leak thing is beyond me, it's utterly bizarre if it was him. The only logical way it could have been him was perhaps if he was casually/naively telling a nephew or someone who without him knowing was forwarding to a mate to be broadcast all over social media. I'd imagine the game has moved on massively since he's been at the club so possibly it's something that he's done for decades so it became a habit but the way the world is today with social media connectivity it's finally caught up with him. This is purely just guess work though. I know Celtic had the same problem with team leaks under Rodger's tenure... It was quite systematic. The mole would not be casually mentioning it over a jar. He would have to transpose it ... probably at a regular time during the build up. Does anyone know where each leak appeared first on twitter... was it Sean? It's always good to look at access and opportunity first ...motive last. But what could the motive be.... there would be no glory
foxinsocks Posted 28 August 2020 Author Posted 28 August 2020 21 minutes ago, Collymore said: This is purely just guess work though. I know Celtic had the same problem with team leaks under Rodger's tenure... Did it stop at Celtic when rodgers left?
Collymore Posted 28 August 2020 Posted 28 August 2020 5 minutes ago, foxinsocks said: Did it stop at Celtic when rodgers left? Yes apparently but coincidentally my mate said the team was leaked for that Euro defeat the other night...! He knew the team in the afternoon so it wasn't days before like it had been.
Babylon Posted 28 August 2020 Posted 28 August 2020 10 hours ago, Chrysalis said: Yeah this is shocking, its ok to sell players, we get it, we not owned by an arab oil giant, but I expect the club to do some planning ahead, instead of waiting until the player is sold and then only deciding to draw up a shortlist. You really think that we wait to sell players before creating a list? We’ll have a list of tracked and scouted players for each position and they’ll be updated constantly. As soon as we start negotiating we’ll look at said players and decide who is right for us, who might be available, costs etc. The problem is good players are in demand and will have multiple options. Or don’t fancy us, or cost too much when the other club knows you will soon have a windfall. People seem to forget there are more than one party involved in deciding a transfer.
Ric Flair Posted 28 August 2020 Posted 28 August 2020 11 minutes ago, Babylon said: You really think that we wait to sell players before creating a list? We’ll have a list of tracked and scouted players for each position and they’ll be updated constantly. As soon as we start negotiating we’ll look at said players and decide who is right for us, who might be available, costs etc. The problem is good players are in demand and will have multiple options. Or don’t fancy us, or cost too much when the other club knows you will soon have a windfall. People seem to forget there are more than one party involved in deciding a transfer. This is Lee Congerton you're talking about.
FoyleFox Posted 28 August 2020 Posted 28 August 2020 47 minutes ago, Babylon said: You really think that we wait to sell players before creating a list? We’ll have a list of tracked and scouted players for each position and they’ll be updated constantly. As soon as we start negotiating we’ll look at said players and decide who is right for us, who might be available, costs etc. The problem is good players are in demand and will have multiple options. Or don’t fancy us, or cost too much when the other club knows you will soon have a windfall. People seem to forget there are more than one party involved in deciding a transfer. I read elsewhere our new LB target is Matt Targett from Villa - as Tagliafico is only £25m for teams in the Champions League and therfore £40m for us.
Babylon Posted 29 August 2020 Posted 29 August 2020 6 hours ago, Ric Flair said: This is Lee Congerton you're talking about. The scouting department hasn’t disappeared. Many of the people on our list will have been on it before they even arrived at the club.
foxinsocks Posted 29 August 2020 Author Posted 29 August 2020 14 hours ago, FoyleFox said: I read elsewhere our new LB target is Matt Targett from Villa - as Tagliafico is only £25m for teams in the Champions League and therfore £40m for us. our form since lock down has cost us dearly - both missing CL money and the lure of CL football.
foxinsocks Posted 29 August 2020 Author Posted 29 August 2020 Does any one know if we replaced the sport psychologist that Claudio let go? Did we replace the stats analyst?
Ashley Posted 29 August 2020 Posted 29 August 2020 14 hours ago, Reginaldo said: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone... Lol. No. Chats bum dust on so many levels.
st albans fox Posted 29 August 2020 Posted 29 August 2020 19 minutes ago, Ashley said: Lol. No. Chats bum dust on so many levels. He absolutely does but you can’t escape the fact that he was getting information from somewhere re our line ups ...... if rennie was the leak, he wasn’t speaking to Sean about it! And you wonder exactly what the person feeding Sean got out of divulging the stuff?? people are weird
Grebfromgrebland Posted 29 August 2020 Posted 29 August 2020 You have to consider that lost match day income could be c. 30-40m per season. Chilwell's sale basically covers that. This is based on a rough calculation.
Collymore Posted 29 August 2020 Posted 29 August 2020 1 hour ago, Grebfromgrebland said: You have to consider that lost match day income could be c. 30-40m per season. Chilwell's sale basically covers that. This is based on a rough calculation. Yeah but it's all relative, if everyone loses the same the amount then the transfer market should adjust to compensate meaning there should be some bargains about. Also our stadium isn't very big so it shouldn't hit us as hard as teams with 50k + stadiums.
Grebfromgrebland Posted 29 August 2020 Posted 29 August 2020 28 minutes ago, Collymore said: Yeah but it's all relative, if everyone loses the same the amount then the transfer market should adjust to compensate meaning there should be some bargains about. Also our stadium isn't very big so it shouldn't hit us as hard as teams with 50k + stadiums. Agreed but our outgoings haven't necessarily reduced proportionately so I'm happy for us to be patient and look for value in the market. It's not ideal but we might be better off going for the likes of Fofana and Ballo Touré rather than Gosens / Tagliafico or anyone too expensive right now.
foxinsocks Posted 29 August 2020 Author Posted 29 August 2020 4 hours ago, Grebfromgrebland said: You have to consider that lost match day income could be c. 30-40m per season. Chilwell's sale basically covers that. This is based on a rough calculation. How depressing that we should flog chillwell to make up for lockdown . I believe Top is more ambitious.... what Rodgers needs to do is to show that an investment of £x offers a strong possibility if achieving y The investment required to a achieve y may vary from time to time. Top will then discount the return based on his confidence in backing Rodgers.
Grebfromgrebland Posted 29 August 2020 Posted 29 August 2020 I guess our advantage is that we've been able to cover that loss by selling one player and we remain strong (ish). That puts us ahead of our direct competitors
Chrysalis Posted 29 August 2020 Posted 29 August 2020 On 28/08/2020 at 22:21, Babylon said: You really think that we wait to sell players before creating a list? We’ll have a list of tracked and scouted players for each position and they’ll be updated constantly. As soon as we start negotiating we’ll look at said players and decide who is right for us, who might be available, costs etc. The problem is good players are in demand and will have multiple options. Or don’t fancy us, or cost too much when the other club knows you will soon have a windfall. People seem to forget there are more than one party involved in deciding a transfer. I have no idea how they operate, but I can speculate based on what I see and read, yes we may well be contacting clubs, and for whatever reason nothing has happened, but it could also be the other way, however what I would like to see is finishing negotiation for our targets "before" we finalise a sale, and then just get it over the line right after.
lgfualol Posted 29 August 2020 Posted 29 August 2020 I've thought of a fun conspiracy, the club realise they made a massive mistake with Rodgers' big contract so are starving him of transfer funds in the hopes he quits instead of sacking him and paying out 10s of millions. How's that
Babylon Posted 30 August 2020 Posted 30 August 2020 8 hours ago, Chrysalis said: I have no idea how they operate, but I can speculate based on what I see and read, yes we may well be contacting clubs, and for whatever reason nothing has happened, but it could also be the other way, however what I would like to see is finishing negotiation for our targets "before" we finalise a sale, and then just get it over the line right after. And you think other clubs and agents don’t then move those lines the second they know you are cash rich from a sale? The theory is fine, the reality I suspect is rather different. It is easy to buy bad players. Would you rather we went for number 12 on the list because we could get it done easily, or tried to complete the tougher / better transfers higher up the list?
st albans fox Posted 30 August 2020 Posted 30 August 2020 10 hours ago, lgfualol said: I've thought of a fun conspiracy, the club realise they made a massive mistake with Rodgers' big contract so are starving him of transfer funds in the hopes he quits instead of sacking him and paying out 10s of millions. How's that they stand to lose more in finishing 15th rather than 7th on a year by year basis .....
Angus Scott Posted 30 August 2020 Posted 30 August 2020 10 hours ago, lgfualol said: I've thought of a fun conspiracy, the club realise they made a massive mistake with Rodgers' big contract so are starving him of transfer funds in the hopes he quits instead of sacking him and paying out 10s of millions. How's that Very good thinking that. I must say we do like to give out generous contracts at fairly regular intervals
Reginaldo Posted 30 August 2020 Posted 30 August 2020 Messi to Man City and Riyad coming home would be mind blowing...
foxinsocks Posted 30 August 2020 Author Posted 30 August 2020 2 weeks to kick off.... Brendan has seen our squad play and will have strong opinions on what we need. This is the week. Welbeck on the horizon
Gamble92 Posted 30 August 2020 Posted 30 August 2020 12 minutes ago, Reginaldo said: Messi to Man City and Riyad coming home would be mind blowing... Considering the fact he compared himself to an imprisoned slave here, i dont quite think he considers this "home".
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