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1 minute ago, Dahnsouff said:

Agree he should go, but let me ask you a question - do you think the problems will be magically resolved when he goes?

No, we’ll still have the obvious squad and financial issues, but it’s clear that the players need a confidence boost and a change of manager with new ideas should do that.

 

Despite the clear imbalances, this is still at top 10 squad. They need a manager who will support them and motivate them to get that confidence back.


Rodgers is doing neither at the minute.

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1 minute ago, Leicester_Loyal said:

You’re living in fantasy land, I don’t even know where to begin. 
 

A league 1 manager would have this squad playing better. I’ll take anyone just to get this clown out. 
 

Zero chance of this being turned around, how are people still saying this FFS. 

Whilst I personally think he has to go as he stepped over the line repeatedly in his interviews and I think he has as many limitations as talent we need to be mindful that sacking brings issues too!

 

who will we get and what will they do is risky too - it does not take much when your 5 games in for that to become 10 or 12 and we are then probably  relegated - I am not as sure as many that this squad is that good - we have a few talents but do does every prem side - we don’t look fit, organised or have any pace or energy so whoever walks in needs experience, credibility a clear plan and can hit the ground running - who is there and who would want to come ?

 

I agree with you 100% he has to go but it’s no way a certainty things will get better!

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7 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Agree he should go, but let me ask you a question - do you think the problems will be magically resolved when he goes?

I dont think so but it probably changes the dynamic from a team who might flirt with relegation to one that finishes 'boringly' 12th instead of one challenging for the european places.

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8 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Agree he should go, but let me ask you a question - do you think the problems will be magically resolved when he goes?

If we replace him with Harry Potter or Gandalf, yes. 

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7 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Agree he should go, but let me ask you a question - do you think the problems will be magically resolved when he goes?

100% believe we will improve. He has sucked the confidence out of the players but banging on about this refresh since Forest away. This is largely the same squad that finished 5th, 5th and 8th. 

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8 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Agree he should go, but let me ask you a question - do you think the problems will be magically resolved when he goes?

Most of them will be, yes. Assuming we hire someone reasonably competent, tactically and motivationally.

 

 I’m shocked you’re even asking. It’s blatantly obvious that we are being hindered significantly by our manager.

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Just now, Old Fox said:

Whilst I personally think he has to go as he stepped over the line repeatedly in his interviews and I think he has as many limitations as talent we need to be mindful that sacking brings issues too!

 

who will we get and what will they do is risky too - it does not take much when your 5 games in for that to become 10 or 12 and we are then probably  relegated - I am not as sure as many that this squad is that good - we have a few talents but do does every prem side - we don’t look fit, organised or have any pace or energy so whoever walks in needs experience, credibility a clear plan and can hit the ground running - who is there and who would want to come ?

 

I agree with you 100% he has to go but it’s no way a certainty things will get better!

But if we get rid we have a chance of staying up. If we stick with him we’re going down. Last 2 home games our only shots on target have been 25-30 yard free kicks, it’s sickening. 
 

If we give Rodgers another 7 games it’ll too late and we’ll be down. A decision has got to be made in the couple of week, if we leave it until the WC break we’ll be miles behind 17th. 

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10 minutes ago, Happy Fox said:

 

Yes 100 percent.

Fair enough, I don't personally, the rot is deeper.  It is, at least in part, caused by Rodgers, but we have dug quite a deep hole I fear

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Since we beat Liverpool we've played 25 league matches and picked up 28 points. That would be enough to stay up over a season, but when you look at the teams we've beaten in that period, most have either been relegated or have recently been promoted....with palace and Southampton improving since we beat them. 

 

Burnley, Norwich, Watford, Brentford, Leeds, palace and Southampton. 

 

I would say we've not had a "good win" for over half a season now. Surely anyone in charge must be seeing this and know we're on course for relegation without a change. It's not just a poor start to the season, it's been poor for a long time! 

 

 

 

 

 

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One shot on target v Southampton. No touches in the opposition box during the first half last night. Regardless of the result there’s so few positives to take from watching us at the moment

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On the evidence that I can see in his interviews, Rodgers is now acting solely out of self-preservation. His number 1 priority is his own reputation and protecting that, hence the way he is acting in the media who are enabling him to do this by not holding him to account.

 

Whilst he peddles his own narrative that the media are happily lapping up, the reality is he has been significantly backed by the ownership for the vast majority of his time here.

 

We are now seeing his priorities play out on the pitch with negative, fearful tactics and hesitant substitutions. It really does feel like he just wants his pay out, the players must be so devoid of confidence right now.

 

Time to say thank you for some amazing memories, but now it's time for someone with fresh energy who wants to be here.

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Please don't think I (am making one last attempt) to defend him, he really needs to go, but I am just asking as I think the problem  is notw ingrained to degree, however a fresh perspective should start a turnaround (surely!!)

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46 minutes ago, Bilo said:

For me, just as we have luxury players in football, Rodgers is a luxury manager.

 

When confidence was high and the results were flowing, the football we played was undeniably gorgeous. Positive, incisive, ruthless and exciting; we could have beaten anyone. We frequently did.

 

He is worse than useless when the chips are down. He cannot win ugly, motivate a struggling team or raise the confidence of out-of-form players.

 

We need a manager, at least in the short term, who can do that. It's why I wouldn't approach Pochettino even if he would come here. Our players are unsuited to Dyche or Allardyce ball. We've probably missed the boat on Potter unless we pay him Rodgers money, and I doubt we take that gamble again. I'd honestly appoint someone like De Zerbi or Fischer from Union Berlin; they're managers who've taken smaller clubs with small budgets by the scruff of the neck in Serie A and the Bundesliga respectively to disproportionate success.

 

Absolutely brilliant post. Never thought of it like this before, but you're spot on. A luxury manager. He cannot adapt to a different rougher style to win points and cannot adapt in a game either to react to what the opponents are doing. We saw against Brentford and Saints, when they upped the ante and made changes he had no answer at all. Last night when we needed fresh impetus, more forward bodies, he didn't respond early enough. We have 5 subs, use them. KDH had his worst game for us I've seen, but wasn't pulled. What's the point of having Praet, Albrighton, Perez etc and never bringing them and on.

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Just now, foxfanazer said:

I love the 'stick with the shit manager we already have as the next one might not be any good' argument lol

It worked for the Tory Government.... for a few weeks

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I am totally understanding of the transfer activity, I do think we have enough in the club to stay up. The manager however has to go, that needs to be addressed today… if it doesn’t, I’ll begin questioning the board.

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1 hour ago, Dahnsouff said:

Agree with @Mickyblueeyes

Brendan is an issue, he cannot setup a team properly anymore, and what on Earth do we do in training?

However, to put all failures at his door is wrong imo, transfers are required to refresh and renew competition.

 

Saying that, Brendan is still the biggest issue as if a scenario is failing - CHANGE IT

He has had transfers, what use are they sat on the bench, he is alienating players, I cant get over how bad Ndidi, and Soyunchu look these days, a poor tradesman always blames his tools, and that's exactly what he is doing, with a fresh outlook and input from a manager that genuinely wants to be here will see a resurgence on those so called out of form head turned players, he sees fit to bench in favour of his reckless management of what were, quality in form players.

 

There are other factors yes, but his loyalty to the club, Top and everyone else should see him get on with what he has and prove his points through continued effort, instead of sulking and negativity which is  having a detrimental effect on performance.

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11 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Agree he should go, but let me ask you a question - do you think the problems will be magically resolved when he goes?

Well you have to define what the problems are. Given Brendan Rodgers is a problem right now, that problem could be resolved by a change.


A new manager could, depending on whether they’re any good or not, provide the fresh impetus that the squad needs. If you can’t refresh the players, refresh the coaching team. Different ideas, fewer biases.
 

Rodgers clearly needs some time off for his own mental sanity. He’s acting like someone heading for burnout. He’s backed himself into a corner wrt players his mindset on what we can do tactically and individual players.

 

 

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Just now, Mike Oxlong said:

Tbf to BR he’s understandably pissed that we didn’t beat Man City to the signing of Haaland 

We'd still play with one striker and it wouldn't be him 

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4 CM didn't work, so he played 5 CM.

 

Wonder how he will shoehorn 6 CM in against Brighton.

 

Go back to basics and play the one of Albrighton or Perez on the RW, gives us more balance and a better shape.

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