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I wonder if a problem is that a lot of senior players know they are out of contract or soon to be in their final year. They know they're moving on in the summer so no impetus to go to Rudkin and get Rodgers sacked. 

 

Mendy, Amartey, Evans, Tielemans deals up in the summer. 

 

Maddison, Ndidi, Nacho, Vardy only one year left

 

Which leaves our senior pros with long term deals as...Barnes, Ricardo, KDH, Castagne? 

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The players do have to pull their socks up but the team that was out.out was not right. Tete did nothing. Ricky P comes on and instantly we looked so much stronger. I know Zaha had gone off but they would have doubled up on him. Castagne stood so far off him and he was having a field day. Is that the tactics.of the manager or did Castagne ignore what he was told. Wilf is a shadow of what he has been. He was one of the first names on the team sheet but Mendy has proved time and time again he is more than capable. Does not even get a kick. Daka over Kels. Really? A number of our players get the odd game here and there. You need run of games and a consistency of team to start playing well. First half we were very poor. Why were we not up for it? We were playing a team who are struggling as.much as we are yet we were timid and weak. We get sound bites from Rogers. Nothing that would get him the sack or even in trouble with the board. He is going to get us relegated. Please Spurs come and get him. It is a match made in heaven!

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19 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Appreciate your post and respect your opinion. I think the snippet above is true and where we have ended up. The attitude has been - 'lets just get through the season and work out when to do when its over'.

 

The problem is, in any walk of life, you can't just do that. If you don't clean your house and 'see what happens' it becomes an unlivable mess, if you don't look after your car is will likely stop working. If a business didn't hire staff motivated for the job, it will likely see revenue fall.

 

You can't approach a task like LCFC 2022-2023 with that level of apathy. We've been caught out and everyone is asleep at the wheel (including many fans), because they have gone in with the attitude 'everything is going to be ok' (see Madders tweet after the Saints game). They have tried to 'kick the can down the road', but the can bounced off a wall and thumped them in the face.  Rodgers has been screaming to be fired several times this season, and the team has been put in this holding patter where 'it will all be fine', even though most will then be gone anyway to get better deals at other clubs no matter what. The apathy has leaked everywhere  - its amazing how it spreads so easily. Every team we field in every age group is currently f**ed.

 

On MOTD a few weeks back Ian Wright praised Rodgers for not panicking. I'm not sure Wright knew exactly how bad things were (he was probably looking at this from the apathy view point as well). But it wasn't a case of not panicking, it was that the management didn't give a crap as they just assumed everything was going to be just fine.

 

Hopefully, we see action now. If LCFC 2022-2023 was a Restaurant, it needs a c**t like Gordon Ramsey to come in and do a quick job shaking everything up and telling EVERYONE where they are not pulling their weight.  

 

Its too late now in my opinion. There were 2 slots this season (after Brighton / Spurs thumping, and before the recent international break) where it made more sense to do it. However, if this club actually cared about the situation it found itself in, then Rodgers gets the call this morning that his services aren't needed anymore, and the club goes into an emergency 'survival' mode where everyone has to buy into to the short survival project. You know what, its amazing how easy it is to get people to buy into a project like 'surviving for you lives'.

 

We have to do it NOW. Relegation is certain with Brendan + this attitude. New Manager and club in survival mode will mean relegation is still very likely, but we have a fighting chance, and i think all fans would get behind that.

Great post and this season reminds me of the relegation season under Holloway.

That time too, there was a complete non-acceptance that we could drift down into League 1 if we weren’t careful. If my memory serves me rightly, I think it was clear on FT that that was the case. 
Even my mates, who usually have a good appreciation of football, were doing this, right up until the last knockings.
Personally, I almost begged my son NOT to go to the Stoke game because I thought really strongly that they were going to turn us over. 
It wasn’t the squad we had… that’s squad WAS good enough to stay up. It was the MOMENTUM we didn’t have. There was no confidence in the side. We hadn’t won in ages etc etc.

This season reminds me of that one. This sheer unacceptance to even consider that the club might be relegated. But whilst the likes of Bournemouth are now starting to pick up points again, we aren’t.

And we don’t look like doing so either.

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2 minutes ago, Col city fan said:

Great post and this season reminds me of the relegation season under Holloway.

That time too, there was a complete non-acceptance that we could drift down into League 1 if we weren’t careful. If my memory serves me rightly, I think it was clear on FT that that was the case. 
Even my mates, who usually have a good appreciation of football, were doing this, right up until the last knockings.
Personally, I almost begged my son NOT to go to the Stoke game because I thought really strongly that they were going to turn us over. 
It wasn’t the squad we had… that’s squad WAS good enough to stay up. It was the MOMENTUM we didn’t have. There was no confidence in the side. We hadn’t won in ages etc etc.

This season reminds me of that one. This sheer unacceptance to even consider that the club might be relegated. But whilst the likes of Bournemouth are now starting to pick up points again, we aren’t.

And we don’t look like doing so either.

We’ve been seeing it for weeks now - all those around us have some spunk about their play, teams are fighting for points. 
 

Meanwhile, we have almost out of contract pros going through the motions, getting fired up when the wind shifts in game, then vanishing again when it blows the other way. 
 

It is like Holloway’s season, you’re bang on, and that is what makes me so angry with the board and owners. 

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47 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

The options are Rafa or Lampard. Two horrid picks from a rotten bunch. But what you can say is Rafa is vastly experienced, and Lampard for all of his faults kept Everton up. I don’t think we will look overseas at this point.

Dyche was the obvious one, what he is about is our current weaknesses.  But of course we didnt move and now he has been taken.

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2 minutes ago, Blue ROI said:

'Brendan Rodgers improves young players.'

 

But loses out to a team led by a 75 year old


Not just a 75 year old somebody that has been retired and come out of retirement lol

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It’s unreal the amount of occasions in the last 18 months he’s masterminded performances worthy of the sack and he’s still here. 

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My concern right now is that the Board might think they can save themselves money and wait for an approach from Spurs (which sadly I don't think is anymore than paper talk) to buy him out of his contract.

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I honestly feel that if he’s not gone today he never ever will be. This is the lowest point. Surely? We’ve been rock bottom before now but that was after 7 games when we had 31 games to turn it around. We’re in the bottom 3 now. Could be second from bottom by the end of today if WHU win. We’ve just lost to a team  who can’t score goals but absolutely ripped us to pieces. The only thing that has kept me even slightly positive is the fact that we score goals but that’s dried up too. We’ve got 10 games to go which is enough for a good manager to come in and keep us up. If we don’t sack him today it will be too late and we will go down. Forget the stadium expansion Top. Forget the offer of new contracts to the one or two decent players we do have. The club is finished. Act now. Don’t be a pussy. 

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58 minutes ago, Pliskin said:

The options are Rafa or Lampard. Two horrid picks from a rotten bunch. But what you can say is Rafa is vastly experienced, and Lampard for all of his faults kept Everton up. I don’t think we will look overseas at this point.

Everton only stayed up because their fans turned Goodison into a bear pit (and they were out the bottom 3 when Lampard took over anyway). Rodgers gifting them 3 points helped as well, he only won 2 away games in his year there.

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3 minutes ago, Jakemoore said:

I honestly feel that if he’s not gone today he never ever will be. This is the lowest point. Surely? We’ve been rock bottom before now but that was after 7 games when we had 31 games to turn it around. We’re in the bottom 3 now. Could be second from bottom by the end of today if WHU win. We’ve just lost to a team  who can’t score goals but absolutely ripped us to pieces. The only thing that has kept me even slightly positive is the fact that we score goals but that’s dried up too. We’ve got 10 games to go which is enough for a good manager to come in and keep us up. If we don’t sack him today it will be too late and we will go down. Forget the stadium expansion Top. Forget the offer of new contracts to the one or two decent players we do have. The club is finished. Act now. Don’t be a pussy. 


If Southampton win we are also 19th, maybe West Ham will come calling once they have sacked Moyes doubt it though.
 

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7 minutes ago, WinslowFox said:

My concern right now is that the Board might think they can save themselves money and wait for an approach from Spurs (which sadly I don't think is anymore than paper talk) to buy him out of his contract, thus saving money.

 

Why not pick up the phone to Spurs and see what there position is from the horses mouth, we are in no position to play chicken. If a job offer was a possibility from Spurs, surely we could just mutually terminate the contract, so we don't pay Rogers anything but Spurs don't have to pay us.

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1 minute ago, Beachyboy said:

Why not pick up the phone to Spurs and see what there position is from the horses mouth, we are in no position to play chicken. If a job offer was a possibility from Spurs, surely we could just mutually terminate the contract, so we don't pay Rogers anything but Spurs don't have to pay us.

It would be more we dont stand in their way, if we terminated otherwise, Rodgers likely has some kind of compensation.

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1 minute ago, Happy Fox said:


If Southampton win we are also 19th, maybe West Ham will come calling once they have sacked Moyes doubt it though.
 

Rogers ain't the guy for a relegation battle, nobody would sack Moyes for Rogers in the current situation surely, I'd suggest a swap so neither club has to pay compo.

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What still annoys me the most is this take that he is decent and we are lucky to have him - even the lads in the pub that have never watched a Leicester game give it the ‘ you can’t sack Rodger’s he is a quality manager’ it’s absolutely mental 

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15 minutes ago, WinslowFox said:

My concern right now is that the Board might think they can save themselves money and wait for an approach from Spurs (which sadly I don't think is anymore than paper talk) to buy him out of his contract.

That's what I was thinking..... who gonna make 1st move....

Would spurs wait til end of season... but then Rogers has relegated us... would they take him still?

And pay compo...

Or wait for us to sack....??? 

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1 minute ago, jv1 said:

What still annoys me the most is this take that he is decent and we are lucky to have him - even the lads in the pub that have never watched a Leicester game give it the ‘ you can’t sack Rodger’s he is a quality manager’ it’s absolutely mental 

Living in the past, we had the same issues when we wanted to get rid of Ranieri. If somebody hasn't consistently performed to the level for a year action needs to be taken.

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1 minute ago, jv1 said:

What still annoys me the most is this take that he is decent and we are lucky to have him - even the lads in the pub that have never watched a Leicester game give it the ‘ you can’t sack Rodger’s he is a quality manager’ it’s absolutely mental 

I think the thing football fans forget sometimes is you can both be a good coach/manager/player, but not the right person for a particular team or situation at any particular point in time.

I still think Rodgers is a good manger, and will still go on and get a new job and do well in the PL or wherever he chooses to go next, however, he is not the person for us right now, with the crop of players he has in front of him.

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