The whole world smiles Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: If could be nobody. That’s already been our approach to the black hole at RW more than once. Not true. Riyad mahrez has only been at man City for 3 seasons. In that time we've signed ghezzal and Under who haven't worked and tried to use Gray who didn't work. We haven't been successful in finding a RW but we have tried. Edited 1 July 2021 by The whole world smiles
UHDrive Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 4 minutes ago, The whole world smiles said: Not true. Riyad mahrez has only been at man City for 3 seasons. In that time we've signed ghezzal and Under who haven't worked and tried to use Gray who didn't work. We haven't been successful in finding a RW but we have tried. Gray never worked.
Attywolf Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 28 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Yeah it's the only concern I have with him. Italian players have a reputation for not doing well in the PL, which is true but the established ones actually tend to do well. I'd be surprised if we properly go for him, Madueke at £20m just seems so appealing and it's always a bonus to pick up young English talented players given the demand for them if they perform in the Prem. Personally I think it'll be Dan James. Didn't we try to get Madueke and get told he isn't moving this year.
Dahnsouff Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 2 minutes ago, Attywolf said: Didn't we try to get Madueke and get told he isn't moving this year. Madueke is going to be the Sancho replacement at Dortmund
Hack Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 57 minutes ago, kingfox said: He’ll get homesick after a month then. A 26 soon to be 27 year old from Serie A for 30-40 million, isn’t the kind of profile we usually go after. It is if you are in a win now mode which this club is.
An Sionnach Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 Everything is right about this player bar, he is too expensive and he will not leave Italy.
Ric Flair Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 1 hour ago, Deeg67 said: If could be nobody. That’s already been our approach to the black hole at RW more than once. Each season we've signed a right winger, just none of them have been appropriate or worked. 18/19 - Ghezzal 19/20 - Perez 20/21 - Ünder
kingfox Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Yeah it's the only concern I have with him. Italian players have a reputation for not doing well in the PL, which is true but the established ones actually tend to do well. I'd be surprised if we properly go for him, Madueke at £20m just seems so appealing and it's always a bonus to pick up young English talented players given the demand for them if they perform in the Prem. Personally I think it'll be Dan James. Players like Daka is the profile we usually go after. Berardi would want first team football, with our options in the forward areas, depending on the formation we play, you’d be leaving out 2-3 key players every week. Tanner might not be all that reliable, but he said a winger on loan is most likely. If not, a player like Damsgaard, Madueke or Olise for example, fits our profile perfectly, young, has time to develop and their price will likely double in a few years. 1
Deeg67 Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 54 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Each season we've signed a right winger, just none of them have been appropriate or worked. 18/19 - Ghezzal 19/20 - Perez 20/21 - Ünder Ghezzal was an attempt to do it on the cheap and Perez was never a winger. Under was a loan. Under, to me, was the first real attempt to fill that slot - at least in a way that was realistically hopeful to work (even if it didn't). 2
Ric Flair Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 34 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: Ghezzal was an attempt to do it on the cheap and Perez was never a winger. Under was a loan. Under, to me, was the first real attempt to fill that slot - at least in a way that was realistically hopeful to work (even if it didn't). I agree but at the time they were the attempts to plug the gap. Perez played all his Newcastle career as a right winger and although he's not really one, he's a damn site more effective at scoring and assisting there than he is in his supposed favoured position.
Deeg67 Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 7 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I agree but at the time they were the attempts to plug the gap. Perez played all his Newcastle career as a right winger and although he's not really one, he's a damn site more effective at scoring and assisting there than he is in his supposed favoured position. Perez played most of his Newcastle matches as a forward or withdrawn striker.
Gerard Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 10 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I agree but at the time they were the attempts to plug the gap. Perez played all his Newcastle career as a right winger and although he's not really one, he's a damn site more effective at scoring and assisting there than he is in his supposed favoured position. I looked at Perez's PL stats the other day and could see why we liked him. Up until last season he had averaged 8.2 goals per season in 5 previous PL seasons as a RW. Couple that with his defensive stats IIRC were the best in the PL for an attacking player. On paper he looked a very good buy. 2
Popular Post StriderHiryu Posted 1 July 2021 Popular Post Posted 1 July 2021 2 minutes ago, Gerard said: I looked at Perez's PL stats the other day and could see why we liked him. Up until last season he had averaged 8.2 goals per season in 5 previous PL seasons as a RW. Couple that with his defensive stats IIRC were the best in the PL for an attacking player. On paper he looked a very good buy. I think this was one of the examples of our analytics getting things wrong. Perez's touch map, goals and assists suggested he was a top level right winger who was undervalued based on stats, hence paying out his buyout clause outright. In reality, because of the system Newcastle under Benitez played, he was a support striker that drifted out to the wing to make the most of Newcastle's attacks on the break. He did very well for them, but was a different player because analytics did not take into account time the attacking team had on the ball and style of play. At Newcastle his job was to sit in deep and help with the low block, and get up front to support Rondon when attacking. At Leicester, Rodgers wants us to be proactive and dominate the ball, playing the game in the opposition half. As we've seen, in such situations Perez is not the right player for the job in terms of being out on the wing. 9
Ric Flair Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 29 minutes ago, Deeg67 said: Perez played most of his Newcastle matches as a forward or withdrawn striker. I stand corrected, I recall we signed him to play out wide on the back of the 2018/19 season where Bentiez deployed him as a right winger and he scored 10 goals after Christmas. He's not a winger but funnily enough in recent seasons he's only ever scored or assisted when deployed out there. His output for us last season centrally was horrid and it had been for Newcastle until that 2nd half of the 2018/19 season. He failed better for them as a 10 in 2017/18 but it highlights just how mediocre he is in the 2 positions we need to improve in.
weller54 Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: I stand corrected, I recall we signed him to play out wide on the back of the 2018/19 season where Bentiez deployed him as a right winger and he scored 10 goals after Christmas. He's not a winger but funnily enough in recent seasons he's only ever scored or assisted when deployed out there. His output for us last season centrally was horrid and it had been for Newcastle until that 2nd half of the 2018/19 season. He failed better for them as a 10 in 2017/18 but it highlights just how mediocre he is in the 2 positions we need to improve in. In the Guinness book of records as the slowest winger ever 😁
Ric Flair Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 Just now, weller54 said: In the Guinness book of records as the slowest winger ever 😁 Josh Low will be fuming at this statement 1 2
Steve Earle Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 38 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Josh Low will be fuming at this statement And even he was quicker than Knocky!
North Leeds Fox Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 Cant see this happening but good to be linked with a player who could finish our front line if he adapted to the league. Had a very impressive 3 seasons as sassuolo and is a goalscoring right winger which would be very welcomed. Not sure we have the money to pay for him but depends if they like someone like praet with locatelli leaving which could reduce it to a level we could afford.
BigWesMorgan Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 Now we just need Levante player Enis Bhardi to have a front three of Berardi, Vardy and Bhardi
UHDrive Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 17 minutes ago, The_77 said: Lies, Dom. Sign right here on the dotted line. Sounds like my 12 year old daughter wrote it whilst eating pasta and driving. 2
HybridFox Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 51 minutes ago, BigWesMorgan said: Now we just need Levante player Enis Bhardi to have a front three of Berardi, Vardy and Bhardi Jamie Vardy's having a party, bring the Bhardi and Berardi 1
FoxesWalk Posted 1 July 2021 Posted 1 July 2021 3 minutes ago, ramadaone said: Smokescreen 👀 https://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/barcelona-ponder-trincao-sale-4375142 1
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