Ayoze Perez

[sacreblueits442]

2 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Well to be fair, it has proven rather diffcuilt to sign a quality RW, so far Diabates, Ghazell, Perez and Under have all not hit the mark. 

....just take a look at the individual cost of those players!!!

We paid £25m for a player in the Championship, £32-£40m for a loan from Monaco, £35m for a 19 year old, over £15m individually for two Centre Halfs we were not looking to play and more deals of over £20m individually.

R. Ghezzal ~ £12.6m

F. Diabate  ~ £1.8m

C. Under  ~ £2.7m (loan), now going to Marseille on loan for £450k

Spending £30m on Perez who in effect is a second striker, who we have chosen to play wide is not us giving much attention to the position.

[AKCJ]

51 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

...he doesn't mean all at the same time...!!!

You don't say???

[Ric Flair]

1 hour ago, Finnegan said:

 

Which is why we've signed so many great wingers over the last few years 

 

come on Ric 

Fully believe the reason we've failed is because it's not been a priority of ours, they need to sharpen up on this. Leaving it until late in the window for Ghezzal and then Ünder was very poor planning or smacked of not being that determined to get the proper Leicester type targets we have recruited so well in defence and midfield and hopefully attack now Daka has signed. 

[fuchsntf]

16 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Fully believe the reason we've failed is because it's not been a priority of ours, they need to sharpen up on this. Leaving it until late in the window for Ghezzal and then Ünder was very poor planning or smacked of not being that determined to get the proper Leicester type targets we have recruited so well in defence and midfield and hopefully attack now Daka has signed. 

After my 65+ years...

The fans Stay blind to the fact, there were, more Quality high Performance players,who have had no interest in Signing for Leicester.

We have Upped our Market-stand over the last 10yrs, but drawing those special players will still be kept on the One Step beyond curb,Simply

because thankfully we still dont throw such ridiculous wages blindly out...Though consistent success will See the wage Ceiling slowly expand,

but I cant see us Exploding into those mind-boggling figures...

[Freeman's Wharfer]

6 hours ago, Barwell Fox said:

Knew it was a mistake looking at this thread. The incessant criticism of one of our own players is extremely boring. I was at Chelsea in the mid 90s when their fans were shouting keep him on, as one of our players was subbed. We lost 5-0 and were flattered by that score. Some people need to get a grip and understand what sheer dross we have had at times to be able to appreciate someone who gives his all for his club. He may not be the most thrilling or dynamic player that we have, but he doesnt warrant incessant criticism.

Small time mentality siren! 

 

The vast majority in this thread appear to be saying that, as a perfectly competent Premier League player, we can do better than Perez. They are right. These are the people who have re-aligned their expectations and who are completely in sync with the journey the club is on rather than allowing themselves to constantly hark back to the bad old days.

 

I often wonder, after a Premier League win, regular European football, a £100m+ training ground, a planned stadium expansion, a manager who’s one of the highest paid in the league, a plethora of international players… when those who keep their mindset firmly rooted in the past (which by the way is the only place you can head back to if that’s your horizon) will get onboard with what the club is and should continue to be. 

 

 

[UHDrive]

4 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Sowah played left wing 2nd half of last season and was far less effective, but I'll leave Brendan to decide where best to use him.

Honest opinion, if we get no incoming RW before season starts then do you think Sowah can hold his own in that position? You've seen him a lot more obviously.

[sacreblueits442]

1 hour ago, fuchsntf said:

After my 65+ years...

The fans Stay blind to the fact, there were, more Quality high Performance players,who have had no interest in Signing for Leicester.

We have Upped our Market-stand over the last 10yrs, but drawing those special players will still be kept on the One Step beyond curb,Simply

because thankfully we still dont throw such ridiculous wages blindly out...Though consistent success will See the wage Ceiling slowly expand,

but I cant see us Exploding into those mind-boggling figures...

....we do not have to go to £40+ to pick up a Right Wing player!!!

£25 -30M would suffice for a player to develop in the team. West Brom picked up Pereira for less than £8m and is rumoured be available £25-30m after one season. Admittingly he was on a loan from Sporting but there are players about who we can pick up to improve our team.

[jeffschlupp]

7 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....we do not have to go to £40+ to pick up a Right Wing player!!!

£25 -30M would suffice for a player to develop in the team. West Brom picked up Pereira for less than £8m and is rumoured be available £25-30m after one season. Admittingly he was on a loan from Sporting but there are players about who we can pick up to improve our team.

West Brom are and were operating in a different market to us - they were a newly promoted side, we are now a Europa League side with a starting XI full to the brim of £50m+ or top class players in virtually every position except the right wing.

 

It really isn't good enough that we go after 'potential' or a 'broken player' this summer, unless there really isn't the value player in the market that the club believe is right for us. In terms of output from attacking midfield positions we have replaced Mahrez, but that is also a product of style of play (replacing Mendy with Tielemans, for starters). But in terms of having someone on the right flank as deadly as on the left, we haven't even got close.

 

Albrighton and Pérez are decent footballers who can contribute from that position, and Sowah is a bright talent. We've got that sort of player in every other position in the side, but they are on the bench when everyone else is fit because we've got proven quality ahead of them.

 

Left footed, right footed, I don't really care - if anything a right footer might even be better to link up with Ricardo who likes a one-two in the final third.

 

We spent £30m last summer for a 19 year old CB who was gagging to move to us and whose club needed to sell, when we already had Evans and Söyüncü. If the club has the funds and the recruitment team have identified the one, chucking £40m at a winger is what we have to do.

[MPH]

5 hours ago, coolhandfox said:

Sowah can play both if I remember correctly?

 

I already think we are miles better off squad wise than last season just with Daka, Soumare, KDH and Sowah.

 

If we got 1 good RW I'd say its been a great window,

 

sowah can also play CDM at a push. So can soumarè and KDH… with ndidi, Hamza  and papy Mendy, I think it’s the one position we can safely say is well covered!

[Guest]

4 hours ago, murphy said:

Well that's not going to happen... linking to another club that is.

 

So let's leave it on a positive.   The one and only thing that can be the answer to the question: 'remember when Ayoze Perez........ ?'

 

I think we can all agree, AP's finest hour:

 

 

 

 

 

You don't remember him scoring a hat-trick in the biggest away win in top division history?

[fuchsntf]

2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....we do not have to go to £40+ to pick up a Right Wing player!!!

£25 -30M would suffice for a player to develop in the team. West Brom picked up Pereira for less than £8m and is rumoured be available £25-30m after one season. Admittingly he was on a loan from Sporting but there are players about who we can pick up to improve our team.

I aint arguing...but some will have us delve blindly too deep into our coffers...

 

But again some  Midlands clubs will struggle to attract the Big guns..One Thing I believe is ist seemingly slowly improving, & that Big name clubs & Football Catchment areas,though still major-stings, have been slightly balanced due simply to the amount of New nations

Quality players wanting to Burst onto the English League scene..

 

Skandinaviens were the new source,lets say in the 90s, but now these last few years Turkey,old Yugoslavian nations,older USSR nations,& African nations

are Finding & giving excellent sources of talent to the Big football nations,they then become better coached & are desperate to attach themselves to the New

up & Coming Stories of the EPL...because of shere numbers and like you mention there are high talented players to find at reasonable (all relative) prices..

Our own investments as a wise LCFC has shown this...We have sometimes slipped up, but who hasnt....even The Big-nobs have their nearlies & bad-calls,

but they can Ride them better than, clubs like ourselves....

There is a New ball game out there in the last 5-8 yrs and We have chosen more wisely as not....

I reckon a few smaller clubs & has-beens have Watched ,seen and copied  our approach & business/Investment tact.

Like we have Rattled the cage of the Big 6 Maybe 4-7 otherTeams like Brighton etc will Pinch some of our fire...

however Big name tradition, catchment area will still have their major-grab.

1-4 Clubs like Leicester will get to have a bigger say, and because there are

more Ndidis//Soyuncus, we ourselves can tap into Close European neighbours talent because of our noisy pecking on that Big 6 window..

We have the Maddisons,Barnes,Justin,Thomas,etc Local Impulses which drags in the likes of Belgium -pralinesTielemans,Castagna,Praet( already being underrated on this forum),  then Opening the Doors for the Fofana,Soumare Dakas...

a few years ago we couldnt "Buy a thought"  Even After the title we were wondering where our Next competitive Backline was Coming from....

If your a must big 6, the last & Next 6 years are "musts", for clubs like ourselves,  we with our owners have Time to Build & Consolidated our own era...

 

We are Making more of  our players attractive to the Big clubs,

But Now our ( & other PL-Chasing pack) selection criteria & potential grab has wider potential & variety, on Choice

and some new players will be more than happy to give us 2-6 seasons, ready to wait to make their Big break.....but unlike, A.Clark,Mclintock,Heskey,Nish,Kante's...Leicester.

 Todays Leicester  can offer Now also higher competitive finishes & success....

Then it " might only might" Not Count that Leicester is a bit of a dump, only shawaddywaddy,

 Old John, Lady-jane-Grey & Kasabian has highlites & 110 Miles from London...

 

Yes the Market has Opened up..and I agree with your thoughts also..

 

 

 

Edited 21 July 2021 by fuchsntf

[Dan]

It's been done to death but I'm pretty astounded at quite how poor he's actually been. It's not even like an Albrighton where you can see obvious limitations but does give you the occasional good performance. Perez is our worst starter by a distance.

 

I don't think if he was sold to Watford he'd stand out for them at all.

 

Would take £10mil, and that's a quite big loss on what we paid. A real disappointment.

[sacreblueits442]

8 hours ago, jeffschlupp said:

West Brom are and were operating in a different market to us - they were a newly promoted side, we are now a Europa League side with a starting XI full to the brim of £50m+ or top class players in virtually every position except the right wing.

 

It really isn't good enough that we go after 'potential' or a 'broken player' this summer, unless there really isn't the value player in the market that the club believe is right for us. In terms of output from attacking midfield positions we have replaced Mahrez, but that is also a product of style of play (replacing Mendy with Tielemans, for starters). But in terms of having someone on the right flank as deadly as on the left, we haven't even got close.

 

Albrighton and Pérez are decent footballers who can contribute from that position, and Sowah is a bright talent. We've got that sort of player in every other position in the side, but they are on the bench when everyone else is fit because we've got proven quality ahead of them.

 

Left footed, right footed, I don't really care - if anything a right footer might even be better to link up with Ricardo who likes a one-two in the final third.

 

We spent £30m last summer for a 19 year old CB who was gagging to move to us and whose club needed to sell, when we already had Evans and Söyüncü. If the club has the funds and the recruitment team have identified the one, chucking £40m at a winger is what we have to do.

...the situation is, @fuchsntf believe, the players we are after in this position, do not want to come here!!!

  What I  countered with was that, we are looking in the wrong market and instead of bringing in a name, we should be looking at players who we can improve. 

 Harvey Barnes was not at the level he is now, when he first came into the team. 

  Once again going back to Matheus Pereira, who was picked up on loan the season before for less than £8m. At the time I felt we should put in a bid to see if we could encourage him to come to us. I do not believe we made a move and he signed for WBA.

  For £30m we could make an offer for a player who would hit the ground running, it really makes no sense to be chasing Trincao or Berardi as they would not see us as a viable destination.

 So instead of wasting our time looking for marquee signings, let us do what we have been doing successfully for sometime now, and invest in a quality product that the big boys do not wish to take a risk on. Their method of growth is to spend big, when we (Leicester) have proven a player can and has reached a level, which they can now endorse.

  We cannot afford to have a mindset which excludes talent because we are now too good a club to be looking at presumably lower league players. 

  

[Ric Flair]

10 hours ago, UHDrive said:

Honest opinion, if we get no incoming RW before season starts then do you think Sowah can hold his own in that position? You've seen him a lot more obviously.

Unfair to expect him to own the position from the off but you never know. He will certainly make a great impact player for us in the short term. Barnes gets a lot of joy still being rapid against tiring defences in the closing stages of games, Sowah can do the same.

[filbertway]

17 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

Because he's score 1 meaningful goal in 2 seasons that's led to us winning any points.

Baffling logic.

[Ric Flair]

7 minutes ago, filbertway said:

Baffling logic.

In what way?

[filbertway]

9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

In what way?

Was just taking the mick out of the original post you quoted

 

We could stick a traffic cone out on the right and probably do better because at least you don't have any expectation of the traffic cone to play like a top 6 premier league footballer.

 

[Ric Flair]

Just now, filbertway said:

Was just taking the mick out of the original post you quoted

 

We could stick a traffic cone out on the right and probably do better because at least you don't have any expectation of the traffic cone to play like a top 6 premier league footballer.

 

Hahahahaa

[Dan]

It's quite amazing that still to this day his biggest contribution to us from an attacking sense in one game came playing for Newcastle.

 

That stat about his goals is appalling really. Again I think even if you'd traded just 3 of those goals for significant, match winning goals he'd get far more leeway. I just think there are so few pros. Last season was really, really poor for him. Not even joking but I'd expect Ghezzal to get better numbers with similar gametime.

Edited 21 July 2021 by Dan LCFC

[foxile5]

He's had long enough. We overspent on him. Given our recent history in the transfer market we can't complain too much but we should probably try to get some of the money back. 

[Hack]

7 minutes ago, foxile5 said:

He's had long enough. We overspent on him. Given our recent history in the transfer market we can't complain too much but we should probably try to get some of the money back. 

He really has never played in his preferred position of number 10 but been asked to play wide.

[Freeman's Wharfer]

45 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

It's quite amazing that still to this day his biggest contribution to us from an attacking sense in one game came playing for Newcastle.

 

That stat about his goals is appalling really. Again I think even if you'd traded just 3 of those goals for significant, match winning goals he'd get far more leeway. I just think there are so few pros. Last season was really, really poor for him. Not even joking but I'd expect Ghezzal to get better numbers with similar gametime.

A hat-trick in a freak result at Southampton masked the reality of his first season’s performance as well.

 

As others have said, you’d accept it if he brought other things to the table. But in actual fact he’s detracting by hosting lockdown parties before important games and you only have to see his Twitter videos to see how he views himself and how painfully out of sync that it with the player he actually is.

 

You’d take limited ability with a great mindset over the opposite which is unfortunately what I think Perez is. There’s ability there but he’s not wired effectively to be able to apply it consistently.

[foxile5]

26 minutes ago, Hack said:

He really has never played in his preferred position of number 10 but been asked to play wide.

He's not worth the wages or outlay. 

[Ric Flair]

37 minutes ago, Hack said:

He really has never played in his preferred position of number 10 but been asked to play wide.

Have you completely deleted from your memory the final quarter of the season?

[urban fox]

Lets not forget just how valuable he is to FT. If he were to leave we would need to find another scapegoat/hate figure to bitch about on here.