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Posted
8 hours ago, Sunbury Fox said:

Given the potential choice between us and West Ham, we better hope he was out on the town in Amsterdam between 8 and 10pm on Monday.....

if he is someone who enjoys being ‘out of an evening’ and he did have to choose between us and wet spam,  then deciding if he moves to London or Leicester makes this thread redundant…

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15 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

if he is someone who enjoys being ‘out of an evening’ and he did have to choose between us and wet spam,  then deciding if he moves to London or Leicester makes this thread redundant…

 

Depends if he wants regular football, he's got no competition for his place here. Could be good could be bad. A fat wedge and a pad in London might sing it for him. I really don't like West Ham. 

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18 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

if he is someone who enjoys being ‘out of an evening’ and he did have to choose between us and wet spam,  then deciding if he moves to London or Leicester makes this thread redundant…

If all he bases his choice on is the city with the best night out then we'll have dodged a bullet. If he picks with his footballing head then he'll surely pick Leicester over West Ham. Despite the result the other week we're still the better prospect for any player footballing wise. I mean would you want to train in a 100 million pound complex or a shed? 

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5 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

If all he bases his choice on is the city with the best night out then we'll have dodged a bullet. If he picks with his footballing head then he'll surely pick Leicester over West Ham. Despite the result the other week we're still the better prospect for any player footballing wise. I mean would you want to train in a 100 million pound complex or a shed? 

a little unfair on their training complex but a fair point - as I said though, If he really is a jack the lad, then the bright lights of London would sway his decision. He looks like he has the arrogance of a top player - hence he won’t be scared of competing with Bowen and benrahma for playing time …

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9 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

If all he bases his choice on is the city with the best night out then we'll have dodged a bullet. If he picks with his footballing head then he'll surely pick Leicester over West Ham. Despite the result the other week we're still the better prospect for any player footballing wise. I mean would you want to train in a 100 million pound complex or a shed? 

On the other hand their stadium dwarfs ours and that appeals to flash dudes like him.

Posted
14 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

a little unfair on their training complex but a fair point - as I said though, If he really is a jack the lad, then the bright lights of London would sway his decision. He looks like he has the arrogance of a top player - hence he won’t be scared of competing with Bowen and benrahma for playing time …

It might be out of date but I read a few years ago that when it's cold they can't train because they don't have an inside pitch or undersoil heating! It's not quite the famous Newcastle facility but it's certainly one of the worst in the league.

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19 minutes ago, peach0000 said:

It might be out of date but I read a few years ago that when it's cold they can't train because they don't have an inside pitch or undersoil heating! It's not quite the famous Newcastle facility but it's certainly one of the worst in the league.

They moved to rush green from chadwell Heath a few years ago.  It’s not seagrave but it also isn’t Newcastle!  It does have an indoor pitch but more akin to belvoir drive than the new facility 

Posted
1 minute ago, lgfualol said:

According to the Ajax fans I've seen online, this guy's had so many injuries he's a shell of his former self. Would be a risky one.

He's had 1 horrid knee injury where he was out for around 10 months but prior to that he'd only ever had a couple of minor knocks and since then he had 1 ankle injury where he was out for 6 weeks. 

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4 minutes ago, lgfualol said:

According to the Ajax fans I've seen online, this guy's had so many injuries he's a shell of his former self. Would be a risky one.

We're the perfect place for players rehabbing from horrific knee injuries. We're experts in it. You just have to hope we don't give him another one in the meantime.

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Just now, Chocolate Teapot said:

We're the perfect place for players rehabbing from horrific knee injuries. We're experts in it. You just have to hope we don't give him another one in the meantime.

Certainly we have dealt with more injuries than the Royal Infirmary over the last year so in that way he fits right in. In other ways he is the exact opposite of a Rodgers player.

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9 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

He's had 1 horrid knee injury where he was out for around 10 months but prior to that he'd only ever had a couple of minor knocks and since then he had 1 ankle injury where he was out for 6 weeks. 

Well if he's fully fit now, I'm on board, I am just wary of the right wing curse we have.

 

.. but he's Brazilian ffs, gerrit done.

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I was watching some of his highlight videos and although he didn't have a great season last year, he really seems to have matured in terms of his end product. 

 

In previous seasons he was more of a show pony but last season he really looked to play that killer ball earlier and if not for some poor finishing, would have had a LOT more assists to his name. 

 

 

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For the problematic RW berth, we need to take a risk.

 

Risks can go wrong: Prince Rashid, Gray, Diabate.

 

Spending 30,000,000 should be a safe bet.  hello, Ayoze!

 

Perhaps Neres is a worthwhile risk.   Perhaps it is down to the strength of character in our dressing room.    Players who have been problematic in the past have not stopped us doing well   Mahrez caused problems after the title win.  Slimani did not derail us.  Gray is said to have had mardies;. If so, it was contained.  On the flip side, other potential problems have integrated well and are part of what seems to be a good group.

 

So maybe Neres is with the punt.

 

Our right wing problem is a bind 

The solution could be Neres 

If he signed I wouldn't mind 

He must be better than Perez.

 

 

 

 

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15 minutes ago, An Sionnach said:

Certainly we have dealt with more injuries than the Royal Infirmary over the last year so in that way he fits right in. In other ways he is the exact opposite of a Rodgers player.

I’m not so sure, on the pitch, under Ten Haag when they were most successful they played some high intensity high pressing stuff. Neres was a key part of that side. That version of Neres would do very well here. 

 

Off the pitch he is definitely a questionable personality however... 

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Spent some time watching his videos and he seems like the ultimate showman! 

 

Not sure how he'd do supporting Ricky with any defensive duties or any other of Brendan's rigid elements! 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Collymore said:

Spent some time watching his videos and he seems like the ultimate showman! 

 

Not sure how he'd do supporting Ricky with any defensive duties or any other of Brendan's rigid elements! 

 

 

 

I thought rhe same but have you watched last years highlights? Seems to have matured in terms of his end product. Less fancy tricks, more killer balls.

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21 minutes ago, Collymore said:

Spent some time watching his videos and he seems like the ultimate showman! 

 

Not sure how he'd do supporting Ricky with any defensive duties or any other of Brendan's rigid elements! 

 

 

 

He has surprisingly good defensive stats for a flair player, and this is him disrupted a bit by injuries in the past year. One thing to note is the massive discrepancy  between xA and actual assists, which is you aren’t familiar means he has elite level creative output but his team mates are absolutely awful at converting the chances he creates. His passes have a high probability of creating goals, but they aren’t finished off at Ajax in the past year for whatever reason. But it shows he is doing the right things, it’s his teammates that aren’t. 

 

He doesn’t take many shots, but those he does take must be very close in to the goal because he has high xG, so he’s not going to be lashing shots from outside the box like Maddison does. When he has chances they are high quality. But that is a function of the team he plays in, he is probably popping up at the back post and getting chances in the 6 yard box (speculating). 
 

To be honest, his stats are quite a lot better than I was expecting. 
 

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1 hour ago, majaco said:

For the problematic RW berth, we need to take a risk.

 

Risks can go wrong: Prince Rashid, Gray, Diabate.

 

Spending 30,000,000 should be a safe bet.  hello, Ayoze!

 

Perhaps Neres is a worthwhile risk.   Perhaps it is down to the strength of character in our dressing room.    Players who have been problematic in the past have not stopped us doing well   Mahrez caused problems after the title win.  Slimani did not derail us.  Gray is said to have had mardies;. If so, it was contained.  On the flip side, other potential problems have integrated well and are part of what seems to be a good group.

 

So maybe Neres is with the punt.

 

Our right wing problem is a bind 

The solution could be Neres 

If he signed I wouldn't mind 

He must be better than Perez.

 

 

 

 

Not sure players like Gray that cost 3.75m and was at the club 4 years could be classed as a risk or Diabate at 1.75m.

 

 

Posted
1 minute ago, FoxesWalk said:

He has surprisingly good defensive stats for a flair player, and this is him disrupted a bit by injuries in the past year:

 

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I don't know much about these xA/xG stats, but doesn't the fact he has 0 assists per 90 and xA of 0.44/90 mean he doesn't assist as much as he is expected to?

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2 minutes ago, Merchant_Banker said:

I don't know much about these xA/xG stats, but doesn't the fact he has 0 assists per 90 and xA of 0.44/90 mean he doesn't assist as much as he is expected to?

Yeah I just edited my post with an explanation :) basically he created lots of chances but his team mates didn’t convert them

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The more I read about him, the more I think 'do we really want him anyway?' We don't need Balitelli type attitudes disrupting the dresses room. One of the things we pride ourselves on is our togetherness and not having those type of egos.

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11 minutes ago, Walshy5 said:

The more I read about him, the more I think 'do we really want him anyway?' We don't need Balitelli type attitudes disrupting the dresses room. One of the things we pride ourselves on is our togetherness and not having those type of egos.

Team dynamics are complex, as I’m sure you know. Having someone in there to shake things up a bit might not be a bad thing. There is a thought at the back of my mind, watching the WHU game, that makes me wonder if it’s all just a little cosy right now? 🤷

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