Norwich 1-2 Leicester - Post Match Thread

[Carl the Llama]

Just now, filbertway said:

Do you think thats unfair? I'd pretty much agree with that and Im definitrly not the troll sliding into your dms

 

On the subject of marcy marc, does anyone know what that celebration was about haha

Started pretty much every game 15/16, completely unfair and barking mad

[Number 6]

34 minutes ago, ttfn said:

It’s a powerful header into the bottom corner of the net from 10 yards. Unless he was planning to stand at the far post he was never saving that.

 

@filbertway

This is the very reason you don't stand offside in front of the opponent's goalkeeper. Cost his team a certain goal.

[LCCFox96]

Yesterday was all about responding to the horror show at West Ham. Whilst it was ugly and we had to dig deep for it we got the win. We've turned out 3 very patchy performances so far and ground out 2 wins. Key positives for me were Vardy's goal - another tidy finish, Dan Amartey having a great game, and the great atmosphere post match after a hard fought win. Hopefully the latter serves as a big boost for the players.

 

Now we need to use the international break to regroup and go again. With a bit of luck we'll have a better compliment of defenders available to us as well. I'm hoping we get a minimum of Bertrand and Vestergaard or Evans back into the mix. Ricardo's injury not being serious would also be ideal. 

[SouthStandUpperTier]

Was Schmeichel getting anywhere near that header? Probably not. Who knows? Who cares? It's irrelevant. Fact is you are not allowed to obstruct the keeper's view by standing right in front of him in an offside position.

Edited 29 August 2021 by SouthStandUpperTier

[Hoopla10]

2 hours ago, Clever Fox said:

 

The Start to the league looks so far removed from the Charity Shield performance against Man City

It's weird that. I get that ManC had a lot of players out but even a B side ManC are still pretty good. Even Amartey looked like he'd stepped up and I think I even praised him after the match. Fofana and Evans would have rocked us but the rest of the team seem flat and disconnected. 

 

As for the off-side, it's off-side. Simple. It's not like defenders don't step players off-side or hold a line to keep players off. Schmeichel has every right to stand there thinking, do what you want but if this goes in it's off-side. Whether the header was always going in doesn't matter. Like it doesn't matter in any off-side ruling. I don't get what the debate is about. It wasn't even marginal either, it was obvious with the naked eye at the time. 

 

What was far more debatable imo was THEIR pen. 

Edited 29 August 2021 by Hoopla10

[Bats8711]

Lol - guys - it was a pen

[sdb]

1 hour ago, Leeds Fox said:

Common tactic to press heavily for the first 10/15 mins, then turn it on and off during a game. Always triggered by the striker on the instruction of the coach/manager. 
 

You can’t press effectively for 90 mins and if it’s not done right, you can be very easily countered. 

Of course but we didn't appear to turn it off at will, or with any intention of tuning it back on once we'd conceded a hold of the game!!

[Clever Fox]

2 hours ago, Hoopla10 said:

It's weird that. I get that ManC had a lot of players out but even a B side ManC are still pretty good. Even Amartey looked like he'd stepped up and I think I even praised him after the match. Fofana and Evans would have rocked us but the rest of the team seem flat and disconnected. 

 

As for the off-side, it's off-side. Simple. It's not like defenders don't step players off-side or hold a line to keep players off. Schmeichel has every right to stand there thinking, do what you want but if this goes in it's off-side. Whether the header was always going in doesn't matter. Like it doesn't matter in any off-side ruling. I don't get what the debate is about. It wasn't even marginal either, it was obvious with the naked eye at the time. 

 

What was far more debatable imo was THEIR pen. 

I think only for the Offside it would have been a goal as Kasper wasn't coming off his line anyway. Maybe he did use the situation to his advantage.

you win some and lose some, But I know if I was a Norwich fan I'd be pissed off with the decision.

 

What annoys me more is the amount of blatant holding that goes on and the Refs don't do anything.  

[Hoopla10]

15 minutes ago, Clever Fox said:

I think only for the Offside it would have been a goal as Kasper wasn't coming off his line anyway. Maybe he did use the situation to his advantage.

you win some and lose some, But I know if I was a Norwich fan I'd be pissed off with the decision.

 

What annoys me more is the amount of blatant holding that goes on and the Refs don't do anything.  

I don't see why Casper saving it has any relevance. In what other off-side ruling is whether a goal was save-able at all relevant? If I was a Norwich fan I'd be pissed-off with the player standing on Kasper's toes instead of moving away (putting them on-side) because like you say it would have probably been a goal. 

 

Yeah holding is annoying but again the problem imo is subjectivity because a certain amount of holding should be fine. These are large strong men they should be able to deal with it to a certain extent. It's when it becomes grappling or clearly pinning a player with no intention of playing the ball or even knowing where the ball is where it becomes blatantly a problem. 

Edited 29 August 2021 by Hoopla10

[filbertway]

The worrying thing about the offside goal is that we one again gave someone a free header about 12 yards out.

 

Had we done the usual thing of dragging everyone into the box? If so its even more laughable 

[purpleronnie]

11 minutes ago, filbertway said:

The worrying thing about the offside goal is that we one again gave someone a free header about 12 yards out.

 

Had we done the usual thing of dragging everyone into the box? If so its even more laughable 

VAR is our best defender against set pieces.

[Corky]

3 hours ago, filbertway said:

As a leicester fan you must know that isn't true

 

Cantwell doesn't help himself by not moving. It's clear he was there to distract or restrict Schmeichel coming off his line (yes, usual stuff about it never happening etc) so he was running the risk of being offside when our players stepped out plus it looked an obvious tactic.

 

Goalkeepers will usually get those decisions, especially if it was flagged by the linesman originally and then VAR had to work out why it should be overturned.

[Spudulike]

The Norwich view 

 

Interesting the highlighting of this happening before... 

 

[filbertway]

46 minutes ago, Corky said:

Cantwell doesn't help himself by not moving. It's clear he was there to distract or restrict Schmeichel coming off his line (yes, usual stuff about it never happening etc) so he was running the risk of being offside when our players stepped out plus it looked an obvious tactic.

 

Goalkeepers will usually get those decisions, especially if it was flagged by the linesman originally and then VAR had to work out why it should be overturned.

By the rules hes absolutely offside. Much with the Perez red, i think the rules need to allow for the application of common sense

Edited 29 August 2021 by filbertway

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

The Norwich view 

 

Interesting the highlighting of this happening before... 

 

Norwich fans using the image I’ve attached as justification just further reinforces he’s interrupting Schmeichel’s attempt 

[BoyJones]

5 hours ago, filbertway said:

As a leicester fan you must know that isn't true

 

It doesn’t really matter though, offside is offside as Chelsea found out in the Cup Final. 

[OhYesNdidi]

We’ve gone from a back four of;

 

Bertrand - Soyuncu - Fofana - Ricardo

 

which is one of those best in the league and was probably well drilled into their positions, pressing as my guess was with that back 4 it would allow us to be super aggressive and press high with the pace at the back. With all the injuries I’ve not got a clue what’s going on, whole team / shapes gone to the cleaners and looks like we’re making it up as we go along now  such a shame because that back 4 is a back 4 good enough for too 4 imo. 

[filbertway]

3 hours ago, Cardiff_Fox said:

Norwich fans using the image I’ve attached as justification just further reinforces he’s interrupting Schmeichel’s attempt 

that bottom image is so embarassing. 10 men in the 6 yard box marking thing air whilst they have 4 people free to head the ball.

 

 

 

 

[filbertway]

3 hours ago, BoyJones said:

It doesn’t really matter though, offside is offside as Chelsea found out in the Cup Final. 

Sure it doesn't, pretty boring if we just state facts and have no opinions or alternative ideas though.

[Hoopla10]

16 hours ago, filbertway said:

By the rules hes absolutely offside. Much with the Perez red, i think the rules need to allow for the application of common sense

You're  advocating for more interpretation? Who's common sense? Yours? Mine? It's a pretty clear rule and makes sense so I'm not sure why you don't consider it common sense. Honesty I have a much bigger problem with an opposing player being actively in an off-side position but out of the keeper's direct eye-line not being flagged off-side if the ball is passed to a second player who is on-side (if that makes sense). That player is still "in-play" and somebody the keeper has to be aware of without knowing whether they're off or on. 

[Cheesemaker22]

Apart from having an accident in his pants over Vardy's finish, Gary Birtles didn't say a single positive thing about either team all game. 

[TMELcfc]

14 hours ago, filbertway said:

that bottom image is so embarassing. 10 men in the 6 yard box marking thing air whilst they have 4 people free to head the ball.

 

 

 

 

We need a set piece coach 

[dynamark]

Set peices is all about decision making before the action starts ,Very little time to react as a ball is on its way.Position of the group and determination by the individual.And I cannot spell pieces

[Domsdad]

31 minutes ago, lcfceaves said:

We need a set piece coach 

I don’t get “zonal marking”. Zones don’t score goals players do.

[Hoopla10]

1 hour ago, lcfceaves said:

We need a set piece coach 

Yep, at both ends of the pitch.