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Against weaker teams I'm going for 4 1 3 2

Schmeichel

 

Riccy P

Evans

Soy

Thomas

 

Ndidi

 

Lookman

Tielemans

Barnes

 

Kel

Vardy/Daka

 

In possession Ndidi drops into the back 3, playing slightly ahead of the other 2, full backs essentially become wing backs, focus play out wide and create overloads, the spare wing back comes into the middle and becomes a second cm. The 2 strikers and wide man the other side getting into the box ready for crosses/passes. 

 

Out of possession it settles into a standard 4 4 2 shape.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, Dahnsouff said:

Based on personnel, its 3 5 2, no question, a much hated formation, but :dunno:

Means leaving out Barnes and Lookman and I'm not sure we'd carry much attacking threat with this formation. If we had Justin fit as lwb and Ricardo as rwb then we'd probably be OK but I'm not sure Thomas or Bertrand would be strong enough going forward to play wing back in this formation. Also not sure we have enough fit centre backs to regularly play 3 at the back

Posted
5 minutes ago, jayfox26 said:

Means leaving out Barnes and Lookman and I'm not sure we'd carry much attacking threat with this formation. If we had Justin fit as lwb and Ricardo as rwb then we'd probably be OK but I'm not sure Thomas or Bertrand would be strong enough going forward to play wing back in this formation. Also not sure we have enough fit centre backs to regularly play 3 at the back

Its true, and missing Barnes (and hopefully Lookman) would be a dumb idea, but two up top seems like we need it more and more  :dunno:

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3 minutes ago, Stadt said:

Iheanacho has put up genuinely elite numbers on his calendar year, he seems to bring the best out of Vardy too.

 

I don’t think we really lose anything defensively with Iheanacho in for Maddison but we gain far more in an attacking sense. He absolutely has to play at the minute. 
 

His hold up play, goal scoring ability and his creativity are fantastic - he might not always be the most fluent player but he causes problems in a way that Maddison & Perez don’t.

 

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He can sometimes look quite clumsy but his hold up at the right end of the pitch is the best in our squad imo.

Posted (edited)

Maybe being braver with using our subs is the answer...so for example  plan to get nacho on at start of 2nd half...there seems to be an obsession with waiting until 60-70 mins for changes. 

 

I was chuffed to see lookman join and he's already made an impression but I guarantee he won't be that effective all the time..a start here and there..45 or 30 mins here and there will work

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, DanNDH88 said:

Schmeichel 

Ricardo 

Evans 

Vestergaard (Fofana when fit)

Bertrand 

 

Ndidi 

Tielemans

 

Lookman 

Iheanacho

Barnes 

 

Vardy

This for me then just swap out players as required each game to rest them or as subs . 

Timmy/Riccy Thomas/Bertrand Soy dropping in the centre back position  for one of the two . Sourmare, Hall dropping into the centre as required . Then Patston replacing one of Vardy or Nacho . Maddison needs to get his act together and playing him in to form doesn’t seem to be working so try the other option and bench him . Perez and Kevin simple subs 

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Posted

Hate to be the boring one but it genuinely depends on the opposition. 
 

Against burnley Barnes and lookman can comfortably both play with 2 strikers. 
 

Against man city you’re asking for trouble 

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Posted (edited)

Based on current availability  Either a 4 2 3 1 or 4 4 1 1 

 

                Kasper

Ricardo, Evans, Cags, Castange (JJ when back)

  Perez*, Youri, Ndidi, Barnes

                 Nacho

                 Vardy

*Lookman if he proves to be effective on the right

4 3 3 against teams where we need an extra man in midfield

                  Kasper

Ricardo, Evans, Cags, Castange (JJ when back)

                    Ndidi

            Youri      Soumare
        Nacho Vardy  Barnes

 

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Posted

My question is why on earth do we have to be so rigid especially if we have the players to change systems. Rogers has to be better by now with changing a formation in a game if he sees the opportunity surely. In training they could work on this which I hope they do. If its practiced relentlessly the players will know what to do. Heck Pep and Tickle tinker all the time this is why they are so dangerous. When we get JJ back and then Fofana eventually we should be able to

be so attack minded that it won't matter that much what defensive shape we have. Most teams we will be able to choke the life out of. Until that day...

Posted
4 hours ago, turlo said:

Based on current availability  Either a 4 2 3 1 or 4 4 1 1 

 

                Kasper

Ricardo, Evans, Cags, Castange (JJ when back)

  Perez*, Youri, Ndidi, Barnes

                 Nacho

                 Vardy

*Lookman if he proves to be effective on the right

4 3 3 against teams where we need an extra man in midfield

                  Kasper

Ricardo, Evans, Cags, Castange (JJ when back)

                    Ndidi

            Youri      Soumare
        Nacho Vardy  Barnes

 

....I believe Lookman is better on the right...!!!

Not sure why Perez is brought back into formations, although that maybe the way Rodgers goes, and playing Nacho wide right  upfront will not work, we just cannot keep shoehorning players we want to see in a team.

Posted (edited)

2 things concern me about the OP's question.

 

1. I don't know and I don't think anyone does

 

2. Whatever it is, it's not as strong as it has been for the last 2 years

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Posted
38 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....I believe Lookman is better on the right...!!!

Not sure why Perez is brought back into formations, although that maybe the way Rodgers goes, and playing Nacho wide right  upfront will not work, we just cannot keep shoehorning players we want to see in a team.

That's why I put a * next to Perez as we don't have a stand out performer on the right, although 4 1 4 1/ 4 2 3 1 suits 10 out of 11 "best 11" and has seen our best form and football under Rodgers in his 2.5 years here. Lookman could be an improvement but we don't have a lot to go off at the moment when his history has mainly been playing off the left. An in form Maddison would be ahead of Nacho in the 10 role but he's so badly out of form, it's time for Rodgers to drop him

With our squad balance and certain players out of form, whichever formation he's goes with at the moment will see 1 or 2 positions as a weak link. 

Posted

I've come to think a 4-3-3 with Barnes, Vardy, and Iheanacho across the front line, Tielemans, Soumare, and Wilf in the middle is the best given what we have.  

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When we say best team selection are we talking right now? Or when everyone is fit available and on form?

When on form Maddison is one of the first names on the team sheet, right now on current form, he probably isn’t in the XI.

Lookman based on the last 2 games should be starting, Iheanacho deserves to be starting too.

We have a deep squad now, and the days of one best starting 11 are long gone.

You have to take into account the opposition, levels of fitness, form, who needs a break and games we have up and coming. 
 

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Posted (edited)
27 minutes ago, Nicolo Barella said:

I don't think Tielemans/Ndidi is strong enough to support a front 4 of Barnes, Iheanacho, Vardy, Lookman - I'd be interested to see Ndidi/Soumare

I'd love to see that as a front four but against stronger opponents I think it'd leave us seriously vulnerable in midfield.  That's why I like a front 3 of Barnes, Kel and Vardy with Soumare joining the two normies in MF.  That gives you Lookman, Daka, and Maddison as bench options to change it up.

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24 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

I'd love to see that as a front four but against stronger opponents I think it'd leave us seriously vulnerable in midfield.  That's why I like a front 3 of Barnes, Kel and Vardy with Soumare joining the two normies in MF.  That gives you Lookman, Daka, and Maddison as bench options to change it up.

I don't disagree with the midfield vulnerability, but I'm not sure how a front three of Vardy/Iheanacho/Barnes would work either. Think that might leave our flanks quite vulnerable. Perhaps Ricardo replacing Lookman against stronger opponents? I don't know, I'm no expert.

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32 minutes ago, Nicolo Barella said:

I don't disagree with the midfield vulnerability, but I'm not sure how a front three of Vardy/Iheanacho/Barnes would work either. Think that might leave our flanks quite vulnerable. Perhaps Ricardo replacing Lookman against stronger opponents? I don't know, I'm no expert.

I think both Barnes and Kelechi track back and help defensively more than Maddison does.

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