King Power capacity

[AjcW]

Genuinely the most remarkably polite I've seen us be to an other teams fan starting a thread  

 

Where's the 'well we're not in ****ing league one are we fella' etc... pussies.

 

[Finnegan]

1 hour ago, Black cats fan said:

I'm a Sunderland fan and have been keeping an eye on the development of your stadium 

 

Is your fanbase big enough to sustain 40,000 long term? I ask this because we expanded the Stadium of light to 48,000, which we can fill if we're top 8 but obviously that's not been the case. A lot of our fans wishes it stayed at 42,000 because it means a lot less empty seats.

 

Is there a huge demand for tickets? Would you sell out if you became an average bottom half side in the future for example? 

 

Best of luck for the season

 

 

The waiting list for season tickets isn't far off twice as long as the number of seats we're expanding by. 

 

I don't think 42 is a danger to be honest. We'll fill it as long as we're in the top flight, whether we're top 6 or not. 

 

Unimaginative travelling fans have been turning up to the KP singing "where were you when you were shit" since halfway through 15/16 with absolutely no sense of irony given when they visited the year before we were rock bottom and the place was still full. 

 

We wouldn't fill it if we get relegated but then nobody does to be honest and I'm not sure letting that dictate your decision making is conducive to growth. 

[Babylon]

1 hour ago, Black cats fan said:

I'm a Sunderland fan and have been keeping an eye on the development of your stadium 

 

Is your fanbase big enough to sustain 40,000 long term? I ask this because we expanded the Stadium of light to 48,000, which we can fill if we're top 8 but obviously that's not been the case. A lot of our fans wishes it stayed at 42,000 because it means a lot less empty seats.

 

Is there a huge demand for tickets? Would you sell out if you became an average bottom half side in the future for example? 

 

Best of luck for the season

 

Half the games I think you are nailed on to sell out. A cold Monday night in January against Burnley probably won’t see it sell out.

[Buce]

1 hour ago, Pliskin said:

Considering we’re the only football team within a 30mile ish radius, yes we will fill it comfortably. 
 

Plus everyone other Midlands team bar Villa are dog, so I’m finding a lot of kids wanting to support Leicester now, I’ve got family who are forest fans, but are now going to Leicester games due to their kids wanting to be Leicester fans. 

 

In terms of sustainability, if you go down naturally the attendances will drop, we’ve been there before, down to the depths of league one. 
 

But in short the answer is yes, we could probably comfortably fill a 50 or 60k stadium. 

 

I think you're looking for the Sordid Family Secrets thread...

[ClaphamFox]

39 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

In answer to the original question. 40K is sustainable whilst we remain in the Premiership and who knows what the future holds.

 

The city of Leicester and the county of Leicestershire has a population just under 700K, however, it's not until relegation that support dwindles away you only have to see that the last time we were in the Championship and, God forbid, League 1.

 

We had very good support in League One and the Championship. Not sure what your point is...?

[Spudulike]

39 minutes ago, David Hankey said:

In answer to the original question. 40K is sustainable whilst we remain in the Premiership and who knows what the future holds.

 

The city of Leicester and the county of Leicestershire has a population just under 700K, however, it's not until relegation that support dwindles away you only have to see that the last time we were in the Championship and, God forbid, League 1.

 

Even in the Championship our support numbers were reasonably decent where, iirc, we averaged around 23,000 to 26,000 and even in League 1 it was over 20,000.

[Spudulike]

Not sure why Burnley are being used as a measure for attracting support. I think that most go to see Leicester City play, don't they? I really don't care who the opposition is, I want to see as many matches that I can in this golden era. Youngsters going now will be able to tell their Grand children that they saw Vardy and Kasper play live even if it was only against Burnley. 

[Babylon]

5 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Not sure why Burnley are being used as a measure for attracting support. I think that most go to see Leicester City play, don't they? I really don't care who the opposition is, I want to see as many matches that I can in this golden era. Youngsters going now will be able to tell their Grand children that they saw Vardy and Kasper play live even if it was only against Burnley. 

If you had a ground with 100,000 capacity, what game attracts more. a) Leicester v Burnley or b) Leicester v Man U.

 

Any answer other than B is wrong and obviously hasn't paid much attention to past events where bigger games attracted more people. 

[Paninistickers]

14 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

Even in the Championship our support numbers were reasonably decent where, iirc, we averaged around 23,000 to 26,000 and even in League 1 it was over 20,000.

Fans like to see - and be associated with - winning football. Simple as. 

 

I'd say we have 20k hardcore who'll go whatever (30 years ago it was just 12k hardcore)  / 20k who do 3 or 4 games a season / another 20k who do 3/4 games a year but would drop us like a hot stone if we were crap.

 

Roughly the same numbers as a multitude of other  clubs; Sunderland, sheff weds, Middlesbrough, forest etc

[Le Renard]

It will sell out, but I think the expansion is aimed at some people like me, who've moved abroad, live the other end of the UK or just become a fan from a far, so when they come and visit the UK and Leicester they would like to go to a game.  At the moment it is nigh on impossible to get a ticket!  Mind you, I'm not one of those fans who'll go to the club shop and get decked out in all the kit for them and their family....which I think the club are trying to target.

Edited 27 September 2021 by Le Renard

[Spudulike]

5 minutes ago, Babylon said:

If you had a ground with 100,000 capacity, what game attracts more. a) Leicester v Burnley or b) Leicester v Man U.

 

Any answer other than B is wrong and obviously hasn't paid much attention to past events where bigger games attracted more people. 

We're not expanding to 100,000 as far as I know. How many more tickets will the club sell when we play ManU next than we did against Burnley? Same applies when the capacity is up to 40,000.

[CosbehFox]

1 hour ago, Osavo said:

I'm not sure it's actually about selling out every week to be honest. There will be games that are less attractive to walk ups and will have empty seats, that's just a fact. The point is that, with clubs in close proximity to us struggling for some time now, we have a real opportunity to firmly establish ourselves as the biggest club in the East Midlands and a stadium expansion is probably required to do that. 

 

As others have pointed out, kids from traditional Forest/Derby support bases are now keen to support Leicester because of our success. That's great, but we'll lose that support if we can't get them in on a regular basis to watch us play. Kids are fickle and will eventually gravitate towards the club where they can get tickets regularly to watch - we need that extra space to provide that.

 

Additionally, we might not have shifted 8k more tickets on Saturday, but not all of that extra 8k will be single match tickets. The demand is surely there for an extra 3-4k season tickets, which an expansion will give us. Suddenly then you're not leaving too many seats to fill. 

Exactly my opinion - in our position I firmly believe it's better to have capacity than none at all. 

 

First question is can we sell 40k for the big games, then can we sell 40k for say 10 league games and slowly put surely you make it work. 

 

Too many people in this country get fixated with empty seats - it's better to have a crowd of 34k than it is 32.5k 

[Babylon]

11 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

We're not expanding to 100,000 as far as I know. How many more tickets will the club sell when we play ManU next than we did against Burnley? Same applies when the capacity is up to 40,000.

There is currently pent up demand, once that demand gets satisfied and people are able to be more choosy about games they go to, people are going to be more inclined to go against Manchester United than they are Burnley. It's just a fact, same as people before more inclined to go on a Saturday than a Monday, or on a sunny summer day than a cold winter night. 

[davieG]

The big thing that the club can't satisfy at the moment is people that can't commit to going regularly and cannot justify a ST or Membership, this will include those that find they have a free Saturday call their mates and say fancy a trip down to the City, this used to be a regular thing when it was pay on the gate, I'm sure this accounts for a decent number of missing fans something that is now impossible.

 

There needs to be a decent surplus of tickets that can be taken up on the day and to be well known, preferably together. So I don't see a problem with a bit of over capacity as it provides flexibility.

[Ian S]

2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Considering we’re the only football team within a 30mile ish radius, yes we will fill it comfortably. 
 

Plus everyone other Midlands team bar Villa are dog, so I’m finding a lot of kids wanting to support Leicester now, I’ve got family who are forest fans, but are now going to Leicester games due to their kids wanting to be Leicester fans. 

 

In terms of sustainability, if you go down naturally the attendances will drop, we’ve been there before, down to the depths of league one. 
 

But in short the answer is yes, we could probably comfortably fill a 50 or 60k stadium. 

Comfortably fill 50k, 60k stadium? Not a chance.

 

 

[Pliskin]

11 minutes ago, Ian S said:

Comfortably fill 50k, 60k stadium? Not a chance.

 

 

Of course we would…. Even if they aren’t Leicester fans, and if the prices were right we would fill a stadium of that size. There are plenty of families who’s kids can’t go to the football due to the price. If only the prices were fairer for families who probably couldn’t afford to go, the stadium would have more people in it. 

[Dan]

2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

Considering we’re the only football team within a 30mile ish radius, yes we will fill it comfortably. 
 

Plus everyone other Midlands team bar Villa are dog, so I’m finding a lot of kids wanting to support Leicester now, I’ve got family who are forest fans, but are now going to Leicester games due to their kids wanting to be Leicester fans. 

 

In terms of sustainability, if you go down naturally the attendances will drop, we’ve been there before, down to the depths of league one. 
 

But in short the answer is yes, we could probably comfortably fill a 50 or 60k stadium. 

Not a chance at the minute. I think there'd be the odd game we could pull in 50k but we certainly wouldn't consistently yet.

 

I do think the lack of space does lead to problems of its own though. If we expanded and had properly advertised this I think we can push 40k when it happens, although do think there'll be the odd game where it's less. Brighton on a Tuesday night for example.

 

We'd have to stay consistently qualifying for Europe (including CL), make it genuinely affordable for matchday tickets (season tickets are reasonable but match by match aren't) and hope nobody else local became good (think we're quite safe in this department) to boost the numbers significantly.

[Pliskin]

1 minute ago, Dan LCFC said:

Not a chance at the minute. I think there'd be the odd game we could pull in 50k but we certainly wouldn't consistently yet.

 

I do think the lack of space does lead to problems of its own though. If we expanded and had properly advertised this I think we can push 40k when it happens, although do think there'll be the odd game where it's less. Brighton on a Tuesday night for example.

 

We'd have to stay consistently qualifying for Europe (including CL), make it genuinely affordable for matchday tickets (season tickets are reasonable but match by match aren't) and hope nobody else local became good (think we're quite safe in this department) to boost the numbers significantly.

I think we could provided the club made ticket tariffs more affordable. 
 

For example, make it as simple as the top 5 rows for example the tickets are a tenner each.  And any remaining tickets on the day a tenner each. You’ll get bums on seats if it is affordable. There are plenty of families that won’t be able to afford to go, but probably would if a day out at the footy cost around £40 for a family rather than £100 odd. Even if it isn’t Leicester fans going. Probably consistency may be an issue, but I’m certain that if you price it right and give plenty of notice you’ll sell the tickets. 

[Dan]

2 hours ago, Focks said:

There must be many fans like me who used to go to a few games and now don't due to the demand being so high that its not worth the effort of trying not being a member or season ticket holder.

 

If a thousand tickets or so were available on match day I could go when I was down in the area and so would friends, friends of friends and family members that simply don't go anymore.

 

Also feel that many more away tickets could be sold (Burnley aside) if they were given a larger area

This sums up how bad the marketing must be, I'm sure you'd have been able to get one for both Wolves & Burnley this season (can't say the same for Man City but possibly that too).

[ealingfox]

We don't even sell out now...

[davieG]

4 minutes ago, Dan LCFC said:

This sums up how bad the marketing must be, I'm sure you'd have been able to get one for both Wolves & Burnley this season (can't say the same for Man City but possibly that too).

 

1 minute ago, ealingfox said:

We don't even sell out now...

Aren't they mostly single seats? Not many people like to sit on their own as part of the experience is sharing it with someone.

[Strokes]

1 hour ago, AjcW said:

Genuinely the most remarkably polite I've seen us be to an other teams fan starting a thread  

 

Where's the 'well we're not in ****ing league one are we fella' etc... pussies.

 

I just missed this thread until now.

 

No wonder you can’t fill it playing in a farmers league you prat.

[Edingleyfox]

I think 40,000 is ideal. I don't think we need any more seats this is the right balance. I doubt we could fill 45-50000 except against the top 6 clubs but I might be wrong. As a youngster in the early 70s we had 42,000 capacity at Filbert Street with a lot of standing areas but we only hit that level very occasionally. Of course the club has grown tremendously in stature since that time but I still think 40K is pretty much right.

[Yes]

32 minutes ago, ealingfox said:

We don't even sell out now...

Don’t we? There might be the odd one left at times but recently we’ve had more tickets that usual because of Napoli and Burnley not bringing enough fans and yet we’ve still managed to sell the majority of the excess tickets at short notice, we’re joint top for filling our stadium in the league.

[rachhere]

I still think there's a lot of work needed in helping non-attending fans understand how to get tickets. I just saw pop up in my Facebook memories a post where I was asking for someone to help me out with tickets as in my head I thought it was impossible to do so as a non-season ticket holder. Also whenever I tried to get online I could never select two tickets together and just gave up thinking it was because I didn't have membership or whatever. I know now that it's because you have to allocate a different ticket to a different person, but it's super confusing the first time you use it and I have had to talk quite a few people through it since. Anyhow, the main point is I am sure there are plenty of people who just assume Leicester games aren't for them as they always hear about how games are sold out. Looking at it now it feels stupid as there's always so much on social media advising there's tickets available for the cup matches, etc, but if I missed all that back when I wasn't as well connected, then I imagine there's a load of people in a similar position.