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Posted
3 minutes ago, stu said:

Reporters saying we need to sell to comply, whilst that may be true surely it doesn’t mean we have to sell now?
 

It just means we have to sell before the end of the financial period in June 26, no?

Yes but if you sell now you save on the wages over the course of the next 10 months 

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Im a bit confused why we would need to sell to comply for the next accounting period.

 

Everything we are selling now falls into the 3 year period from 23/24?

 

We lost 19m that year...I assume the 2 years in 3 in the championship means allowable losses are dramatically reduced something about 65-70m? So if we are still having to sell to comply we must of been way over last season?

Posted
16 minutes ago, stu said:

Reporters saying we need to sell to comply, whilst that may be true surely it doesn’t mean we have to sell now?
 

It just means we have to sell before the end of the financial period in June 26, no?

We have to submit our management accounts to the league early next year.  If they show a problem then we can’t point to potential June sales to put things right. Not allowed in this regard.   So if we really do need to sell in this accounting period, we’d undoubtedly come under league sanctions before seasons end. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, st albans fox said:

We have to submit our management accounts to the league early next year.  If they show a problem then we can’t point to potential June sales to put things right. Not allowed in this regard.   So if we really do need to sell in this accounting period, we’d undoubtedly come under league sanctions before seasons end. 

We can but it would just lead to a possible transfer embargo when we submit it in early 2026 which would presumably be lifted if we did then sell the required players to comply with PSR by the end of June.

Posted
15 minutes ago, TommyK said:

This PSR has a lot to answer for. Never have football forums been so focused on money, contracts, sells and all the other non football related stuff. 

I hate what it’s done to the game, but we also have handled it worse than anyone I can think in the English professional leagues  

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Posted
1 hour ago, stu said:

Reporters saying we need to sell to comply, whilst that may be true surely it doesn’t mean we have to sell now?
 

It just means we have to sell before the end of the financial period in June 26, no?

It’s probably also to do with wanting to prove that we’ve learned our lesson and are now complying ahead of our hearing for the 23/24 charge. 

Posted
11 hours ago, Scotch said:

They want £15m for him. Not a chance. 

 

9 hours ago, FrankieADZ said:

think it would be a loan more than anything else

You’d imagine any deal we chase will be loan with an obligation to buy.  Probably the right way to go about it as well but might explain some of our delay as clubs may want to see what our deduction would be before agreeing to that 

Posted
1 minute ago, Lambert09 said:

 

You’d imagine any deal we chase will be loan with an obligation to buy.  Probably the right way to go about it as well but might explain some of our delay as clubs may want to see what our deduction would be before agreeing to that 

That makes sense. I don't see this one happening in particular though, some decent teams chasing him. 

Posted
29 minutes ago, MGLCFC said:

It's doing exactly the opposite of what its intentions were for and has ended up ruining the game.

With the ridiculous wages and transfer fees we have been handing out to underperforming players we 100% need to be on the barrel end of PSR.

 

Rather this than Rudkin being given free reign renewing the contracts of the likes of Ward, Coady, Choudhury, Ayew Winks when it comes round to it.

Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Rather this than Rudkin being given free reign renewing the contracts of the likes of Ward, Coady, Choudhury, Ayew Winks when it comes round to it.

But therein lies the problem at our club. However, when the big boys appear to get away with all kind of fiddles, PSR has created a playing field that is even more favourable to the elite.

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Posted
18 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said:

It’s probably also to do with wanting to prove that we’ve learned our lesson and are now complying ahead of our hearing for the 23/24 charge. 

Whilst that may be correct, surely the panel will only be considering what situation was at the time, rather than the situation is now.

 

I find the suggested plan of that we are not doing any business now to try and prove we are trying to comply foolish when it directly harms our chances of getting promoted at the first time of asking.

Posted
5 minutes ago, MGLCFC said:

But therein lies the problem at our club. However, when the big boys appear to get away with all kind of fiddles, PSR has created a playing field that is even more favourable to the elite.

In recent years we've had West Ham, Newcastle, Crystal Palace winning trophies. Aston Villa, Newcastle in the champions league. Brighton, Bournemouth Brentford in the Prem.

 

The period with the biggest gap between the top and the bottom was 2004-2015 where there were 11 years where only the sky 6 finished in the top 4. Now it feels fairly even matched. To be honest I kind of like the likes of Chelsea and Man United throwing round money, when we were benefiting from it at least. It means you can attract players that clubs like ours otherwise couldnt because they see a pathway to the top.

Posted
2 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

In recent years we've had West Ham, Newcastle, Crystal Palace winning trophies. Aston Villa, Newcastle in the champions league. Brighton, Bournemouth Brentford in the Prem.

 

The period with the biggest gap between the top and the bottom was 2004-2015 where there were 11 years where only the sky 6 finished in the top 4. Now it feels fairly even matched. To be honest I kind of like the likes of Chelsea and Man United throwing round money, when we were benefiting from it at least. It means you can attract players that clubs like ours otherwise couldnt because they see a pathway to the top.

:ph34r:anyone else?

Posted
3 hours ago, JimJams said:

Player loan swap! Soumare for Igamane!

 

 

 

Martin probably likes Winks...

He’d have to stay over then though, no chance, who’s gonna tuck the baby in?

Posted
57 minutes ago, Levi Port said:

I hate what it’s done to the game, but we also have handled it worse than anyone I can think in the English professional leagues  

Not to give the mess in charge of running the show too much credit, but we've handled it worse than anybody because what we were trying to do (break into the "big 6") was exactly what PSR was designed to stop. The only way to do that now is to spend 30 years becoming a hugely profitable commercial enterprise like Spurs have. And they've only managed it because they're based in London, signed and sold Bale and Modric and produced Kane at the right time. 

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Posted
23 minutes ago, Craig said:

:ph34r:anyone else?

Well yh the FA cup win goes without saying but it's not a good example for what im trying to say when we were breaching PSR at the time and have ended up where we are.

Posted (edited)
12 minutes ago, honeybradger said:

Well yh the FA cup win goes without saying but it's not a good example for what im trying to say when we were breaching PSR at the time and have ended up where we are.

We weren't failing PSR at that time, despite the losses. 

 

What went wrong was after that day... where we failed to secure top 4, and then failed to sell Youri (presumably because of his goal) as per our usual model. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, TommyK said:

This PSR has a lot to answer for. Never have football forums been so focused on money, contracts, sells and all the other non football related stuff. 

Players now have basically 2 valuations - the amount the club value the player at, and then the PSR book value 

Posted
2 hours ago, TommyK said:

This PSR has a lot to answer for. Never have football forums been so focused on money, contracts, sells and all the other non football related stuff. 

Yeah but look on the bright side, now clubs in the EFL aren't going bankrupt! Right...?

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