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Posted
13 hours ago, buzzer_b said:

I can see Burnley being well up for this. They will know we are fragile at the back and especially from corners, which I think they will take advantage of. They are quite a big side in comparison to us and will know that our defence is easily bullied.

 

With regards to Maddison, he is the key for us. If he has a good game, then the team usually does well. I would also like to see Daka start this one with Barnes and Lookman on the wings to try using their pace to get behind the defence. 

No we aren't.  The side that starts against Leicester will probably have only 3 outfield players of 6 foot tall or more, and one of those is Dwight McNeil who doesn't use his height.  (If Rodriguez and Cork keep their places ahead of Cork and Westwood, which I suspect they won't, that will be 5 six-footers.  But Weghorst is the only one above 6 foot 1.)  It's a common myth that Burnley are big (just as it is a myth that they are a dirty side), and myths is what they certainly are.

 

We work corners like a big side.  Don't doubt that.

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3 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said:

No we aren't.  The side that starts against Leicester will probably have only 3 outfield players of 6 foot tall or more, and one of those is Dwight McNeil who doesn't use his height.  (If Rodriguez and Cork keep their places ahead of Cork and Westwood, which I suspect they won't, that will be 5 six-footers.  But Weghorst is the only one above 6 foot 1.)  It's a common myth that Burnley are big (just as it is a myth that they are a dirty side), and myths is what they certainly are.

 

We work corners like a big side.  Don't doubt that.

Ok but I could imagine Burnley being a dominant team when it comes to corners? I just can see Leicester’s defence getting bullied once again from a set-piece.

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30 minutes ago, buzzer_b said:

Ok but I could imagine Burnley being a dominant team when it comes to corners? I just can see Leicester’s defence getting bullied once again from a set-piece.

We're definitely good at corners.  But it's because we're better at heading, not because we're bigger.  Ben Mee's not even six feet tall, possibly the smallest centre half in the PL, but that doesn't stop him winning headers.

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Posted
12 hours ago, majaco said:

I would be surprised if Burnley don't score a couple.  

 

Our full.backs are okay.   We probably need to play Amartey and Soyuncu again and have the work rate of KDH and Ndidi ahead of them.  We cannot afford to start with Barnes and Lookman.  

....no reason why we cannot play 4-3-3 for this!!!

                  Kasper

Albrighton   Amartey  Soyuncu   Thomas

                           Wilf

     Maddison                        KDH

        Lookman   Daka     Barnes

We can beat Burnley, just need to protect the backline enough.

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The next two matches are our exciting 3rd and 4th 6 pointer relegation games this season. Lose these and we will be right in amongst it battling for that vacant 3rd relegation slot and I'd expect Rodgers would be out on his ear.

Posted
2 hours ago, dsr-burnley said:

Ben Mee's not even six feet tall, possibly the smallest centre half in the PL, but that doesn't stop him winning headers.

 

The last couple of seasons, and especially this one, I have noticed Mee looking like the star of that central defense, with more and more indifferent play from Tarkowski.

 

1.  Am I off base?  I admit that I (like most neutrals) don't watch many Burnley games.

2.  If I'm not off base, do you think Tarkowski is just pissed off at not being granted a move, and/or playing his "B" game to keep himself whole until he gets one?  Or is he a tad over-rated at this point?

 

Just asking for a friend  :rolleyes:

 

 

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Can see their big CF bullying our defence tbh.

Tough game but Burnley aren’t much good really. If we play our best, we’ll win

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Posted
2 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....no reason why we cannot play 4-3-3 for this!!!

                  Kasper

Albrighton   Amartey  Soyuncu   Thomas

                           Wilf

     Maddison                        KDH

        Lookman   Daka     Barnes

We can beat Burnley, just need to protect the backline enough.

Isn’t Vardy back in contention?

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7 hours ago, sacreblueits442 said:

....no reason why we cannot play 4-3-3 for this!!!

                  Kasper

Albrighton   Amartey  Soyuncu   Thomas

                           Wilf

     Maddison                        KDH

        Lookman   Daka     Barnes

We can beat Burnley, just need to protect the backline enough.

....Albrighton at RB ahead of Ricardo and no Youri!!!

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Posted
8 hours ago, dsr-burnley said:

No we aren't.  The side that starts against Leicester will probably have only 3 outfield players of 6 foot tall or more, and one of those is Dwight McNeil who doesn't use his height.  (If Rodriguez and Cork keep their places ahead of Cork and Westwood, which I suspect they won't, that will be 5 six-footers.  But Weghorst is the only one above 6 foot 1.)  It's a common myth that Burnley are big (just as it is a myth that they are a dirty side), and myths is what they certainly are.

 

We work corners like a big side.  Don't doubt that.

Entirely agree. I've seen Burnley play controlled, patient build up football many a time. Particularly when managing a game. 

 

 clichés that do ring true for Burnley imo is the time wasting ( I consider that a dark art amd kinda admire it) and the underrated skill of being garbage at times but still shithousing a goal (staying in games when being overrun is a talent, one which we certainly dont have)

 

 

 

 

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Posted
7 hours ago, dsr-burnley said:

We're definitely good at corners.  But it's because we're better at heading, not because we're bigger.  Ben Mee's not even six feet tall, possibly the smallest centre half in the PL, but that doesn't stop him winning headers.

This is absolutely correct and a lesson to be remembered. I’d say one of the most remarkable successes of Burnley in recent times is their organisation particularly. We had that in 2015/16 and need to rediscover that. They also play for each other and have a clear identity. It will be interesting your opinion on ourselves.

Posted
12 hours ago, Harpenden Fox said:

An attempt to make myself feel more positive. We should have beaten both West Ham and Wolves. In both games we were dominant for long periods, and they are two of the better teams in the league.

 

Even with our ropy defence we have the potential to be a very good team. A team very capable of beating Burnley if we are disciplined, clinical and bang up for it.

 

 

Have i convinced you? Have I convinced me?

You'd convinced me until I got to the bit in bold.

Posted
8 hours ago, dsr-burnley said:

We're definitely good at corners.  But it's because we're better at heading, not because we're bigger.  Ben Mee's not even six feet tall, possibly the smallest centre half in the PL, but that doesn't stop him winning headers.

The biggest defenders, I think, are Crystal Palace and Brighton. Massive. 

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15 minutes ago, Spudulike said:

The biggest defenders, I think, are Crystal Palace and Brighton. Massive. 

Tarkowski is 6'1" but is as strong as a horse. No one out muscles him. We had that with Huth and for a centre back that is a vital attribute.

Posted
1 hour ago, Sunbury Fox said:

....Albrighton at RB ahead of Ricardo and no Youri!!!

Think Youri is a waste of player at the moment. That midfield looks spot on for me. Youri and Maddison are too lightweight together for me and of the two, Maddison is in far better form. 

 

I would however have Ricardo in and possibly a front 3 of Barnes, Iheanacho and Daka. Lookman offers little on the right for me and seems far more comfortable and effective on the left. On the right he's merely Rodger's new Perez plaything 🤣

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                        Kasper

Ricardo   Amartey  Soyuncu   Thomas

                           Wilf

         Soumare                KDH

                        Maddison   

                  Kelechi    Daka    

 

 

There's no point playing with one isolated striker, especially against this lot.  
Let's go and ****ing have them.

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Posted
51 minutes ago, volpeazzurro said:

Think Youri is a waste of player at the moment. That midfield looks spot on for me. Youri and Maddison are too lightweight together for me and of the two, Maddison is in far better form. 

 

I would however have Ricardo in and possibly a front 3 of Barnes, Iheanacho and Daka. Lookman offers little on the right for me and seems far more comfortable and effective on the left. On the right he's merely Rodger's new Perez plaything 🤣

Youri and Maddison are too lightweight? They've been part of one of the best midfields in the league over the last few years prior to this season. They also produce over 20 goals a season between them. 

Posted
7 hours ago, KingsX said:

 

The last couple of seasons, and especially this one, I have noticed Mee looking like the star of that central defense, with more and more indifferent play from Tarkowski.

 

1.  Am I off base?  I admit that I (like most neutrals) don't watch many Burnley games.

2.  If I'm not off base, do you think Tarkowski is just pissed off at not being granted a move, and/or playing his "B" game to keep himself whole until he gets one?  Or is he a tad over-rated at this point?

 

Just asking for a friend  :rolleyes:

 

 

Not off base, but i think you're putting it a bit stronger than reality.  For whatever reason, Tarkowski hasn't been quite as consistent as we would like.  Though for the last few weeks, he's ben outstanding.

 

Ben Mee is special though.  Played his 350th league game for Burnley at weekend.  In a way I'm glad his passing is suspect at best, because otherwise he wouldn't have played so long at Burnley.

 

Early days he made this headed clearance at Reading.  He's never lost a step from that attitude.  

 

 

 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Ric Flair said:

Youri and Maddison are too lightweight? They've been part of one of the best midfields in the league over the last few years prior to this season. They also produce over 20 goals a season between them. 

We have conceded over 90 goals since the beginning of last season and that is a failure in midfield as much as in defense.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

The biggest defenders, I think, are Crystal Palace and Brighton. Massive. 

Brighton sold 6'7" Dan Burn to Newcastle recently. 

 

This probably lowered their average height and increased Newcastle's. 

Posted
10 minutes ago, dsr-burnley said:

Not off base, but i think you're putting it a bit stronger than reality.  For whatever reason, Tarkowski hasn't been quite as consistent as we would like.  Though for the last few weeks, he's ben outstanding.

 

Ben Mee is special though.  Played his 350th league game for Burnley at weekend.  In a way I'm glad his passing is suspect at best, because otherwise he wouldn't have played so long at Burnley.

 

Early days he made this headed clearance at Reading.  He's never lost a step from that attitude.  

 

 

 

Criminal that he's never played for England. Also a bit of a hero here for one of the best 'take the ball and the man' challenges you'll see, on Adel Taarabt

Posted
1 hour ago, Spudulike said:

The biggest defenders, I think, are Crystal Palace and Brighton. Massive. 

And yet Palace have a poor set piece defensive record like us.

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