Rudkin

[accessory]

17 hours ago, Legend_in_blue said:

Complete lack of respect being shown to RVN.  His managerial record has been shocking, but no matter how shocking it's been, the way he is being treated shows a complete lack of intelligence and respect from those above.

The fact he's STILL on our payroll, despite all the dross produced in the last six months, suggests he's actually been shown too much respect.

 

But the egos of Aiyawatt and Rudkin stop them from admitting they messed up badly with his appointment.

[Raj]

RVN hasnt even had a discussion with the hierarchy since we got relegated.

You would have thought we would have got a new manager in places as soon as the R was confirmed.

We really are s shit shower, no wonder staff are leaving the club

[FoxinNotts]

Get this ***** out

[joachim1965]

Any proper club would have sat down with the manager after relegation and discussed the next step, the course of action to take the club forward.

That would either be telling Ruud his services were no longer required, or, if he was to be continuing, letting him know what transfer kitty is available to him so he can start to rebuild his squad. 

It really is basic stuff.

[UniFox21]

2 hours ago, Raj said:

RVN hasnt even had a discussion with the hierarchy since we got relegated.

You would have thought we would have got a new manager in places as soon as the R was confirmed.

We really are s shit shower, no wonder staff are leaving the club

I don't know how much of this I actually believe. Wouldn't shock me if there was limbo over position, but also wouldn't be shocked that everyone knew the outcomes and were waiting for financial reasons

[Collymore]

Don’t blame it on the owners,
Don’t blame it on the players,
Don’t blame it on the gaffer —
Blame it on the Rudkin!

[MrLuke]

Every day he's still in the job the more gobsmacked I am. As many people have said before, senior management like a DoF role in any other industry would've seen him moved on long ago.

[Raj]

48 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

48 minutes ago, UniFox21 said:

I don't know how much of this I actually believe. Wouldn't shock me if there was limbo over position, but also wouldn't be shocked that everyone knew the outcomes and were waiting for financial reasons

 

Dont be suprised by how I kept this tool is👍🏾

Edited 1 June 2025 by Raj

[Fazzer 7]

I regard Rudkin with utter derision. 

[The_77]

Are people finally seeing that he’s just the conduit/representative/“yes man” of the owner? This RvN debacle is a perfect example of that. When Top doesn’t make a decision, nothing gets done and nobody is allowed to act. 
 

Just changing Rudkin doesn’t change the club. This is the owner’s club and he’s running it as he pleases. 

[Donwebbio]

I think it helps not see Rudkin as Director of Football because he isn't and never has been. He is an Executive Assistant to the Chairman and a general administrator. He is a Smithers character who has followed a slipstream to a generous salary and a comfortable position of power and influence.

 

So we have a CEO with no experience of football and a glorified administrator. Villa on the other hand have the following working for the owner:

 

Sporting Director 

Technical Director 

MD of Professional Football 

 

[sylofox]

2 hours ago, The_77 said:

Are people finally seeing that he’s just the conduit/representative/“yes man” of the owner? This RvN debacle is a perfect example of that. When Top doesn’t make a decision, nothing gets done and nobody is allowed to act. 
 

Just changing Rudkin doesn’t change the club. This is the owner’s club and he’s running it as he pleases. 

I've said for a long time Rudkin is not at fault for everything he's blamed for.

 

Fairly certain the finances are not his fault. He's being told what he can offer.

I was told he wanted Rodgers gone way before he was sacked.

 

I still want the waste of space gone.

[Dan]

3 hours ago, The_77 said:

Are people finally seeing that he’s just the conduit/representative/“yes man” of the owner? This RvN debacle is a perfect example of that. When Top doesn’t make a decision, nothing gets done and nobody is allowed to act. 
 

Just changing Rudkin doesn’t change the club. This is the owner’s club and he’s running it as he pleases. 

Correct. In some ways, I think Rudkin getting the chop would actually hurt us because it would take the heat off, fool people that things are good again when in fact they aren't. Further plunged into the mire.

[Chelmofox]

25 minutes ago, sylofox said:

I've said for a long time Rudkin is not at fault for everything he's blamed for.

 

Fairly certain the finances are not his fault. He's being told what he can offer.

I was told he wanted Rodgers gone way before he was sacked.

 

I still want the waste of space gone.

Means he is completely ineffectual. If i was in a position where i couldn't do my job properly, I would seek different employment. Especially if those decisions above me meant tmost around me despise me.

[Dr The Singh]

36 minutes ago, sylofox said:

I've said for a long time Rudkin is not at fault for everything he's blamed for.

 

Fairly certain the finances are not his fault. He's being told what he can offer.

I was told he wanted Rodgers gone way before he was sacked.

 

I still want the waste of space gone.

Not everything, but enough for him to die on his sword for sure.

[Soar Fox]

37 minutes ago, Chelmofox said:

Means he is completely ineffectual. If i was in a position where i couldn't do my job properly, I would seek different employment. Especially if those decisions above me meant tmost around me despise me.

Probably just comes down to money. I doubt he would get a job anywhere else that pays even close to what he must get here. 

[The_77]

3 hours ago, Chelmofox said:

Means he is completely ineffectual. If i was in a position where i couldn't do my job properly, I would seek different employment. Especially if those decisions above me meant tmost around me despise me.

This is the exact position and role he set out to attain. 

[Blue.Fox84]

6 hours ago, sylofox said:

I've said for a long time Rudkin is not at fault for everything he's blamed for.

 

Fairly certain the finances are not his fault. He's being told what he can offer.

I was told he wanted Rodgers gone way before he was sacked.

 

I still want the waste of space gone.

Very true! Rudkin has come through the club and do believe he wants the best for the club - whether he’s the right man for the job is one thing but ultimately I think there is multiple people who are at fault in all of this.

 

Unfortunately for him, like how it can be for a first team manager, if the team isn’t performing someone gets put on the chopping board whether it’s directly their fault or not. I think a lot of fans just want to see that there’s been some sort of action/change taken and with his name and position probably most well-known, he either needs to force bigger decisions within the club to be seen to be making an impact or unfortunately be the man that gets pushed over-board 

[AKCJ]

21 hours ago, Collymore said:

Don’t blame it on the owners,
Don’t blame it on the players,
Don’t blame it on the gaffer —
Blame it on the Rudkin!

You can and absolutely should blame the owners.

[Tommy G]

22 hours ago, Soar Fox said:

Probably just comes down to money. I doubt he would get a job anywhere else that pays even close to what he must get here. 

Correct, but in his shoes it would be suicide to put in your notice. If he hangs on, he could negotiate (or his legal rep) a good settlement if/when Top decides to ''remove'' him.

[pmcla26]

On 01/06/2025 at 17:38, sylofox said:

I've said for a long time Rudkin is not at fault for everything he's blamed for.

 

Fairly certain the finances are not his fault. He's being told what he can offer.

I was told he wanted Rodgers gone way before he was sacked.

 

I still want the waste of space gone.

Yep, he's only DoF by name. He's more of a general manager off the pitch. 

 

Sacking Rudkin wouldn't solve anything, employing people with a football strategy around him while he can be allowed to focus on the good things he does with the day-to-day running at Seagrave and the academy would be better. Maresca told Top this and he hasn't done anything about it. 

Edited 2 June 2025 by pmcla26

[l444ry]

Doesn’t employment law give a person due compensation from the day he’s told he’s gonna be released/sacked? Would make logical sense to do it to suit PSR?

[filbertway]

42 minutes ago, l444ry said:

Doesn’t employment law give a person due compensation from the day he’s told he’s gonna be released/sacked? Would make logical sense to do it to suit PSR?

From what I can gather, there's no issue with telling someone what date they will be sacked. As long as the contract is terminated on that date.

 

I would say it's far more troublesome to alienate and not talk to your employee, especially at such a key time.

[VLC86]

3 hours ago, filbertway said:

From what I can gather, there's no issue with telling someone what date they will be sacked. As long as the contract is terminated on that date.

 

I would say it's far more troublesome to alienate and not talk to your employee, especially at such a key time.

Technically RVN will be on annual leave, I’m sure employment law doesn’t expect a business to continue conversations during that time.

 

its a shambolic way to run a football club, but it won’t breach any laws.

[OntarioFox]

Rudkin is a shocking DoF who should have been sacked at the same time Rodgers was, and has overseen a truly embarrassing on-field decline, while being the one responsible for our disgusting wage and transfer structure.

Top is a useless owner running the club into the ground, and failing to take the "tough decisions" required to correct our terminal course to financial and sporting oblivion.

Both can be true at once.