Martin O'Neill

[SpacedX]

26 minutes ago, Collymore said:

This thread is all wasted energy.

On Foxes Talk? Surely not. 

[Fox92]

5 minutes ago, Deeg67 said:

I'm curious what realistic option the folks shltting on the idea of MON would like to see.  Because if you don't have one, what you're really saying is our chances would be better sticking with Stadler and Waldorf.  Which is a valid opinion, but let's be clear about the choices are.

He hasn't managed in the PL for a decade

He last managed Forest, four years ago, and got sacked

 

I'm no big fan of the other options but they are more encouraging to me than O'Neill. Unless it's Marsch, he can just sod off.

Edited 6 April 2023 by Fox92

[Guest Lako42]

16 pages of pure wibble

[MrSpaM]

I'm all for this until the end of the season tbh, we need a psychopath in that dressing room

[tickler28]

MON when asked if he's coming back to manage Leicester "We're a million miles away from agreeing terms...a million miles" If you know....you know 😉

[Vindaloo FOX]

1 minute ago, tickler28 said:

MON when asked if he's coming back to manage Leicester "We're a million miles away from agreeing terms...a million miles" If you know....you know 😉

When did he say this?

[tickler28]

1 minute ago, Vindaloo FOX said:

When did he say this?

Freaking years ago when he last managed us in a post match interview when asked if Leicester are going to Wembley in the cup

[Pliskin]

19 minutes ago, Lako42 said:

16 pages of pure wibble

We’ve had 18 months of pure wibble, what’s a few more??

[Mr Weller 2]

14 hours ago, dylanlegend said:

Pearson and his team built the squad and togetherness which ended in us winning the league. Multiple players from that squad have confirmed this since.  
 

Prime Pearson was beating Man United 5-2 prime MON was beating Sunderland 5-2.

It’s almost impossible to disprove assertions like this. There is no evidence to support them but because he never got the chance to prove it we can never know for sure. What we do know is that in his last season we were bottom of the league for all but the last few games whereas under MON we were always top half and won two major trophies.

[cityfanlee23]

There is only one scenario in which I would want MON, and that’s if the other names being thrown about have agreed to join in summer, or flat out rejected us and we have no other options. I’d take him over Stowell and Sadler but that’s it. 
 

The game has moved on but MONs football hasn’t from what I’ve seen in his last couple of jobs. 

[sacreblueits442]

3 hours ago, suffolk fox said:

In the first half the way Villa were allowed to bring the ball forward at will whilst all of our players stood off and watched was bloody criminal.  Play like that against Man City and it will be at least five before half time.

.. I  suspect that it will have to be against Man. City!!!

  A deep block with Vardy, Barnes and Tete to hit them on the break.

 

[sacreblueits442]

3 hours ago, HankMarvin said:

Shakespeare has been sacked from every role he has had since 

Leicester 

Everton 

Watford 

Villa 

Norwich.

 

Even when the Manager has been sacked, no club kept him on like we did.

Why is there so much clamour for his return. There is only a small number of the current squad he would know anyway.

 

If Pearson come back I could half understand it as they had a great working relationship, but to suggest him coming back with Managers he has never worked with? No thanks 

 

Or with Dean Smith for that matter 

... he is a good coach,  we lost an asset when we sacked him as a manager!!!

  Managers and their coach mostly always leave together, him not being kept on means very little. I suppose the big worry for a club who has kept him on would be the possibility that he looks to join his previous manager- colleague at their new club.

[Sunbury Fox]

11 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said:

.. I  suspect that it will have to be against Man. City!!!

  A deep block with Vardy, Barnes and Tete to hit them on the break.

 

Daka, not Vardy. Vardy doesn't even show for through balls any more. 

[dylanlegend]

29 minutes ago, Mr Weller 2 said:

It’s almost impossible to disprove assertions like this. There is no evidence to support them but because he never got the chance to prove it we can never know for sure. What we do know is that in his last season we were bottom of the league for all but the last few games whereas under MON we were always top half and won two major trophies.

We also know that we were actually playing well all season and never lose a game by more than 1-2 goals max. I don’t think we’d have won the league with Pearson but he left us on a 10 match winning run with a youthful and promising squad.
 

With MoN the team fell apart practically as soon as he left - they were also quite an ageing squad. 
 

We need a re-build and I would have full confidence in NP and his management team to do that, more than anyone else we’ve been linked with 

[RowlattsFox]

I mean if the other option is to keep Sadler and Stowell in charge I would take adding O'Neill, even if its just an advisory position. 

[AKCJ]

2 hours ago, wokinghamfox said:

And the reasons for thinking is?

• His strengths lie in man management. He doesn't have time to get to know the players on a personal level.
• His recent managerial appointments have been failures. Most at a lower level.
• His last Premier League game was over a decade ago following a run of 8 games without a win.
• He prefers a 3-5-2 which doesn't accommodate our top scorer.

The positive is that the fans love him and it won't be quite as toxic when he takes us down.

 

We need a proper tactician with up-to-date knowledge of top level football to come in and steer the team to safety.  Reality is that there isn't really one available. The only one I can think of would be Benitez and he's supposedly a slow starter and we don't have time to get results going.

 

We have Bournemouth, Man City, Wolves and Leeds in our next 4 games. We need minimum 7 points from those 4 if we want to have a chance. Not only that we need to avoid being spanked by Man City because goal difference is the only thing going for us right now.

 

[Fox92]

15 hours ago, dylanlegend said:

Pearson and his team built the squad and togetherness which ended in us winning the league. Multiple players from that squad have confirmed this since.  
 

Prime Pearson was beating Man United 5-2 prime MON was beating Sunderland 5-2.

No comparison because the squads are so different.

 

O'Neill was playing against Man Utd when they were Champions of England and Champions of Europe. We wouldn't have beat them 5-3 then. Same with Arsenal back then too.

When O'Neill lost 2-6 to Man Utd their team included; Irwin, Stam, Keane, Giggs, Yorke, Cole.

 

As much as I love Nige, O'Neill was consistent over four seasons. Top 10 finishes and three League Cup finals. It's non comparison.

Edited 6 April 2023 by Fox92

[Jobyfox]

It’s impossible to compare MON’s achievements with those from different eras. Time has moved on and the whole environment has changed. That, however, is, in a nutshell, the issue with trying to rewind the clock 

[Footballwipe]

Everyone is sick and tired of the football media these days doing stupid things like "combined XI," "Is X or Y better" and "What's the best support in football" to whip up arguments and drive content.

 

Then football fans go and do it themselves with the utterly pointless MON v Pearson debate. Both were of their time and both were an ENORMOUS net positive for this club, leaving legacies, memories and teams who we will never forget. There's absolutely no need or no point in trying to compare them on who was better. Can we not just appreciate what both of them gave to this club across their spells without the need to ask who was better? Lordy

[HybridFox]

2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

I’m warming to the idea of Harry Soutter being sent upfront for the last ten….. could you imagine the absolute melt down on super Sunday when Soutter flicks one on for Kalechi to tear into the top corner in the 90’th?

The scrappy goals are honestly the most mad celebrations. Just bundle it in and there will be absolute bedlam 

[KP Fox]

1 hour ago, Vindaloo FOX said:

When did he say this?

Summer of 2000

[KP Fox]

2 hours ago, Pliskin said:

I’m warming to the idea of Harry Soutter being sent upfront for the last ten….. could you imagine the absolute melt down on super Sunday when Soutter flicks one on for Kalechi to tear into the top corner in the 90’th?

The most probable outcome would be that Harry would have an open goal and head it onto the woodwork

[bovril]

15 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

Everyone is sick and tired of the football media these days doing stupid things like "combined XI," "Is X or Y better" and "What's the best support in football" to whip up arguments and drive content.

 

Then football fans go and do it themselves with the utterly pointless MON v Pearson debate. Both were of their time and both were an ENORMOUS net positive for this club, leaving legacies, memories and teams who we will never forget. There's absolutely no need or no point in trying to compare them on who was better. Can we not just appreciate what both of them gave to this club across their spells without the need to ask who was better? Lordy

Might be pointless but ranking players and managers is always enjoyable. Northern European male football fans are mostly on the spectrum and spend hours doing this. 

[dylanlegend]

13 minutes ago, Footballwipe said:

Everyone is sick and tired of the football media these days doing stupid things like "combined XI," "Is X or Y better" and "What's the best support in football" to whip up arguments and drive content.

 

Then football fans go and do it themselves with the utterly pointless MON v Pearson debate. Both were of their time and both were an ENORMOUS net positive for this club, leaving legacies, memories and teams who we will never forget. There's absolutely no need or no point in trying to compare them on who was better. Can we not just appreciate what both of them gave to this club across their spells without the need to ask who was better? Lordy

Your are of course correct. Both excellent managers for us. If the question is however at this particular moment in time would we prefer MoN or NP, I just don’t see MoN being the man for the job. MoN is not known for being in relegation fights

 

I mean if we are after a temporary manager to get us out the s*it surely we go for a specialist in this like Big Sam, someone with a proven track record of coming it and beating the drop. 

[bovril]

Ranieri is the 'greatest', NP may be the most important, but for me MON will always be the best. 1 promotion and 3 cup finals in four and a half years is incredible.