Development/Youth Squads 2023/2024 Thread - U18/U21

[Lambert09]

 

Not sure if this has been posted but one thing in it, that i found very interesting was that it was his agent that arranged the loan. 

 

I had always thought it was more down to the club asking around for the players for their development than the players themselves pushing for the loans 🤔 
 

No wonder so few players go out… and also that some of the loan club choices are often odd  

[urban.spaceman]

 

[AjcW]

57 minutes ago, urban.spaceman said:

 

This is a role for BAME and Female candidates done in partnership with the Premier League. Fixed term 2 year contract and time is split between the club and premier league training hubs. It's also aimed at letting the candidate work at all levels so from Under 8's all the way to 21's

[urban.spaceman]

27 minutes ago, AjcW said:

This is a role for BAME and Female candidates done in partnership with the Premier League. Fixed term 2 year contract and time is split between the club and premier league training hubs. It's also aimed at letting the candidate work at all levels so from Under 8's all the way to 21's

Someone is in for a nasty shock

[AjcW]

Just now, urban.spaceman said:

Someone is in for a nasty shock

Well technically our U21 etc are still Premier League...

[Ryy]

He’s on his way 🇹🇭 

[niyaminski]

1 minute ago, Ryy said:

He’s

Not heard much about Suphanat Muenta. 
 

Not much on YouTube either.

 

What’s he like?

[Fox on the Rox]

12 hours ago, Lambert09 said:

 

Not sure if this has been posted but one thing in it, that i found very interesting was that it was his agent that arranged the loan. 

 

I had always thought it was more down to the club asking around for the players for their development than the players themselves pushing for the loans 🤔 
 

No wonder so few players go out… and also that some of the loan club choices are often odd  

The fact is the club was without a loan manager at the time last season's loanees were looking for loans, and had been for some time. If agents didn't do it then nobody would.

 

First loans are often just a case of finding a club willing to take the player, especially for teenagers. Last season's loanees should be generating their own interest if their loans were even partially successful. It will be interesting to see whether next season we have a bigger crop of new loans out, now that we have a loan manager who's been in place for some time.

 

Also, be interesting to see whether last season's loanees have got themselves further up the queue for first team minutes compared to youngsters who didn't go on loan.

[Lambert09]

3 minutes ago, Fox on the Rox said:

The fact is the club was without a loan manager at the time last season's loanees were looking for loans, and had been for some time. If agents didn't do it then nobody would.

 

First loans are often just a case of finding a club willing to take the player, especially for teenagers. Last season's loanees should be generating their own interest if their loans were even partially successful. It will be interesting to see whether next season we have a bigger crop of new loans out, now that we have a loan manager who's been in place for some time.

 

Also, be interesting to see whether last season's loanees have got themselves further up the queue for first team minutes compared to youngsters who didn't go on loan.

The question still remains though. Is the loans managers job to find the loans? or simply to look after the players while they are on them and report back on how they are doing. 

 

Previously we had hammond in this capacity. The fact it tends to be former players implies to me, its more likely the latter 

 

 

[filbertway]

1 hour ago, Lambert09 said:

The question still remains though. Is the loans managers job to find the loans? or simply to look after the players while they are on them and report back on how they are doing. 

 

Previously we had hammond in this capacity. The fact it tends to be former players implies to me, its more likely the latter 

 

Was Dean Hammond loans manager? I thought it was Guy Branston till he left.

[Simmo86]

1 hour ago, filbertway said:

Was Dean Hammond loans manager? I thought it was Guy Branston till he left.

Yeah he was for a bit, pretty sure he gave it up because his wife was ill. Something along those lines 

[filbertway]

38 minutes ago, Simmo86 said:

Yeah he was for a bit, pretty sure he gave it up because his wife was ill. Something along those lines 

Yeah just had a google, it looks like Branston took over from him. That rings a bell why he quit.

[Frank Large's Black Book]

3 hours ago, filbertway said:

Was Dean Hammond loans manager?

 

CBA to labour the joke

 

 

 

 

[onekeithweller]

1 hour ago, Frank Large's Black Book said:

 

CBA to labour the joke

 

 

 

 

We can’t afford to hang about, we need to get some of these kids out on loan Tonto.

[Bluearmyfox28]

5 hours ago, filbertway said:

Was Dean Hammond loans manager? I thought it was Guy Branston till he left.

I remember Guy telling me at the time (about two years ago) of all the academy players in the system at the time, that the club were keen to make Iversen their future No.1 and he was the best kid coming through the ranks. Planned out well  

[Foxes_Trust]

Robert Huth is our current loans manager

[CosbehFox]

Gary Brazil is on the market - well respected academy boss whose done very well with Forest 

[moore_94]

2 minutes ago, CosbehFox said:

Gary Brazil is on the market - well respected academy boss whose done very well with Forest 

Hopefully the club do look to make changes at academy level

 

Things looked to be going in the right direction when we brought in Paul McGuinness, but it has now been 9 months since he had to leave and there has seemingly been nothing on him being replaced

[Fox on the Rox]

On 26/06/2023 at 16:55, Lambert09 said:

The question still remains though. Is the loans managers job to find the loans? or simply to look after the players while they are on them and report back on how they are doing. 

 

Previously we had hammond in this capacity. The fact it tends to be former players implies to me, its more likely the latter 

 

 

I think the expectation of agents is that it's the loans manager's job to find loans, or at least be active in that area. However, the reality has been that agents have had to step in and do it, at least for first loans where clubs are not falling over themselves to take inexperienced young players.

[ALC Fox]

Just a thought I've had:

 

Do the transfer windows hinder the development of young players?

 

If players could move freely throughout the season, then bad loans could be ended early and new ones found more easily.

 

This could also provide the possibility of several short-term loans where a players goes out for a month, comes back and is assessed further before going back out on loan again, whether to the same club or elsewhere. This could happen several times a season to allow young players and parent clubs to stay in contact more closely and for loan clubs and parent clubs to collaborate more in how a player is used. It could also allow youngsters to gain more experience of men's football earlier in their development, with the knowledge that they're not going to be stuck somewhere for a while season and the academy won't be able to step in and help them.

 

There will be several downsides to this, especially as squads will be more in flux and those lower down the pyramid will be vulnerable to having their best players bought at any time.

 

Perhaps a good halfway house could be that loans from any academy at any level to any team, whether Premier League, Football League or non-league, are allowed throughout the season.

[moore_94]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/leicester-ready-turn-ex-arsenal-30337314

 

New Leicester boss Enzo Maresca is set to hand teen sensation Amani Richards the chance to transfer his explosive under-18 form to the first team next season.

 

The 18-year-old joined the Foxes from Arsenal ’s academy 19 months ago. Not only has impressed behind the scenes with his output and his attitude, he was named Leicester ’s Academy Player of the Year last month, having been the top scorer at any level at the club.

 

He managed more than 20 goals and assists and - with just a year left on his contract - has attracted interest from Newcastle, West Ham and Brentford.

 

But Richards is understood to be determined to make a breakthrough at the King Power. He has already returned from his summer break early to implement a training regime that he hopes will leave him in shape for Maresca’s pre-season plans.

 

In turn Maresca, a teenage midfielder himself during a spell at West Brom between 1998 and 2000, is keen to develop young players having previously been under-23s boss under Pep Guardiola at Manchester City.

[Ric Flair]

10 minutes ago, moore_94 said:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/leicester-ready-turn-ex-arsenal-30337314

 

New Leicester boss Enzo Maresca is set to hand teen sensation Amani Richards the chance to transfer his explosive under-18 form to the first team next season.

 

The 18-year-old joined the Foxes from Arsenal ’s academy 19 months ago. Not only has impressed behind the scenes with his output and his attitude, he was named Leicester ’s Academy Player of the Year last month, having been the top scorer at any level at the club.

 

He managed more than 20 goals and assists and - with just a year left on his contract - has attracted interest from Newcastle, West Ham and Brentford.

 

But Richards is understood to be determined to make a breakthrough at the King Power. He has already returned from his summer break early to implement a training regime that he hopes will leave him in shape for Maresca’s pre-season plans.

 

In turn Maresca, a teenage midfielder himself during a spell at West Brom between 1998 and 2000, is keen to develop young players having previously been under-23s boss under Pep Guardiola at Manchester City.

I noticed how relentless he's been in the last few weeks training in the off season, I even complimented him on it on Instagram whilst pissed up the other day. Let's hope he gets a chance and takes it, we need to tie him down on a new deal.

[TommyK]

I didn't realize he had beend that good. 

[Ric Flair]

Quote staggering how good he's been and yet largely ignored by the U21s who preferred to play 5ft 6 wingers up front instead. Did it the year before when Popov was taking the piss in the U18s too.

[deep blue]

2 hours ago, Ric Flair said:

I noticed how relentless he's been in the last few weeks training in the off season, I even complimented him on it on Instagram whilst pissed up the other day. Let's hope he gets a chance and takes it, we need to tie him down on a new deal.

I like the sound of his self-imposed extra training.  Chilwell did something similar a few years back and it brought him on tremendously.  It shows a really determined character.  I also like his choosing us over potential Prem offers, if the report is to be believed, too.

 

Given the decline in our fitness last season, our short preseason, and the demands of a gruelling season in the Championship in prospect, it is good news to hear of someone willing to get a head start.  Hope he makes an impact.