Does Vardy stay for another season?

[CountesthorpeFox1]

3 minutes ago, Paninistickers said:

I'm not wishing to dig you out pal, but where the hell are sheff weds getting 150k a week from to pay his wages? 

 

Some of the ideas on here are cloud cuckoo land: 'release him' 'retire' 'move him on'.... apologies to be so rude bit it shows a complete lack of knowledge of how the business works

 

 

No worries for digging me out, it’s a forum after all. 
 

if you see earlier in my post you’ll see I said he’s not going anywhere because he won’t terminate he’s contract, fully aware that nobody will be able to afford his (surely 70k wages after wage cut?). I only mentioned Wednesday as he’s a fan and was giving an example of how he’d still be a decent player, just not for us in terms of style if we want to go up. You see if I say anything negative about the GOAT I have to compensate it with something positive to justify it in my own tiny little mind. 
 

I should have worded it better as I see your point, I’m not naive enough to think he won’t be in our squad come opening days due to logistics more than anything. 

[Daggers]

For the love of everything good - let the man go with a shred of dignity. 
 

20 goals next season? And I thought I could shovel drugs away. Pure fvcking madness 😂

 

A swan song season in China, Japan, the Middle East or Murica. Let him go. He’s been a giant but his time has well and truly gone. 

[Sly]

We had people quoting they’d be happy in the Championship, as it “allows us to rebuild”. Keeping Vardy is exactly the opposite of that. 
 

It’s been apparently for some time that he isn’t the same player he once one. Time and injuries do that to you.

 

The reality is, unless Top is bank rolling us out of this mess personally and is going to stick a couple of fingers up to FFP, then he needs to either lower the wage significantly or be moved on. 
 

Football is brutal at the top level. However, it could get toxic if he stays, is sitting on £100k a week, we’re struggling elsewhere and he’s performing worse than Elvis Hammond. 

[trooky]

10 hours ago, Tuna said:

He hasn't even got any badges?

 

He isn't going to just cancel his contract is he?

and we're not going to pay him a £140k per week to sit on the bench either

[stripeyfox]

As with all these things, the devil is in the (contract) details.

 

The notion that we can "renegotiate" his contract and knock his wages down by 40% or whatever is ridiculous

 

If he has a relegation clause, that will be triggered. If not, then the club will have to pay him what they agreed until the end of his contract. Why should he take a wage cut if it hasn't been pre agreed?

 

[jv1]

Anyone saying we should get rid needs a serious head wobble - and I mean serious - he loves our club - he is our club - and he will absolutely tear it up in the championship- his wages will come down and he will get on with it - I saw major signs of the vardy we know and love in those last games where he started and got a run of games - it’s impossible at 37 to come off the bench and be sharp - especially for such an explosive player - I’d have him playing every game possible as a talisman next season - wouldn’t rule out giving him the armband either - he stuck with us when he could of gone many times - our turn to stick with him - Jesus do we really think we get a better forward than vardy in the championship- that’s laughable - he will be unreal - 20 plus incoming - go out with a bang Jamie boy 

[Fridgechef]

Player/youth Coach

[justfoxes]

I can see him retire but stay at City as a striker coach, but if he decides he has one more season in himself then there’s no way he’ll be able to play twice a week the GOAT should be used as an impact sub from about 60min reason why we need to keep Daka & Nacho to find the net over the longer season of 46 games.

 

Daka will come good in this league he can be scoring for fun his pace will tear at defences, so long as we can have a player with him who can feed him his through balls to break the defence then I can see him doing really well.

[OnlyOneCity]

In response to Heathrow Fox’s comment about knowing youngsters who think Vardy is crap, that says more about their lack of football knowledge than Vardy’s current ability. I think he’ll be effective in the Championship and will bring into play, old fashioned gamesmanship against those players who think they can best him.

[Nod.E]

I'm not making an argument either way when I ask this, but do we have any hard numbers that would support the idea that his legs have gone?

 

I think we can all see with our own eyes that he doesn't have the same blistering pace he had a few years ago, but that was the case last year as well and he managed a better minutes per goal than in our league winning season.

 

We saw against Leeds and Everton that he still has sufficient pace to beat the last man. If anything his defiencies this season appeared to be a combination of poor finishing and not seeing much of the ball, which when you look at the analysis of our patterns of play as a team isn't surprising. We basically played next to no football in the opposition half for much of the season.

 

I'm on the fence really. Bottom line is he had a poor season, but part of me thinks it could be as much down to confidence, our football as a team and perhaps not being 100% mentally there with everything else going on in his life. We have to remember he had a niggling injury for a decent period as well.

 

Happy to be proven wrong otherwise if there is data to support the idea that his legs have gone, but I would like to think that when playing to his strengths and with a few early goals and with the carrot of ending his career with a promotion, he could chip in with a healthy return?

 

As others have said, if we had a choice in the matter we'd probably make the saving on his wages. But the likelihood is he won't get that money elsewhere. Maybe a team in the MLS comes in and offers him similar to slightly lower wages on a two year contract and he takes that.

[funkyrobot]

I think it’s fair to say we saw far less running off the ball from Vards and a lot of pointing and directing to others this season. I hope it’s a Rodgers thing but it looked like he’d lost the explosive pace and his energy to move around the pitch including the channels that used to bamboozle his defender.

[Elvis hammond]

9 hours ago, Sly said:

We had people quoting they’d be happy in the Championship, as it “allows us to rebuild”. Keeping Vardy is exactly the opposite of that. 
 

It’s been apparently for some time that he isn’t the same player he once one. Time and injuries do that to you.

 

The reality is, unless Top is bank rolling us out of this mess personally and is going to stick a couple of fingers up to FFP, then he needs to either lower the wage significantly or be moved on. 
 

Football is brutal at the top level. However, it could get toxic if he stays, is sitting on £100k a week, we’re struggling elsewhere and he’s performing worse than Elvis Hammond. 

Did somebody mention me

[Fazzer 7]

Not on his current wage. 

[The Year Of The Fox]

2 hours ago, Nod.E said:

I'm not making an argument either way when I ask this, but do we have any hard numbers that would support the idea that his legs have gone?

 

I think we can all see with our own eyes that he doesn't have the same blistering pace he had a few years ago, but that was the case last year as well and he managed a better minutes per goal than in our league winning season.

 

We saw against Leeds and Everton that he still has sufficient pace to beat the last man. If anything his defiencies this season appeared to be a combination of poor finishing and not seeing much of the ball, which when you look at the analysis of our patterns of play as a team isn't surprising. We basically played next to no football in the opposition half for much of the season.

 

I'm on the fence really. Bottom line is he had a poor season, but part of me thinks it could be as much down to confidence, our football as a team and perhaps not being 100% mentally there with everything else going on in his life. We have to remember he had a niggling injury for a decent period as well.

 

Happy to be proven wrong otherwise if there is data to support the idea that his legs have gone, but I would like to think that when playing to his strengths and with a few early goals and with the carrot of ending his career with a promotion, he could chip in with a healthy return?

 

As others have said, if we had a choice in the matter we'd probably make the saving on his wages. But the likelihood is he won't get that money elsewhere. Maybe a team in the MLS comes in and offers him similar to slightly lower wages on a two year contract and he takes that.

Pretty sure I read that pre season last year, he was 2mph (might’ve been kmph) slower than his peak

 

Barely, ‘losing his legs’ is it? 

Edited 5 June 2023 by The Year Of The Fox

[John rayner]

On 04/06/2023 at 00:41, MPH said:

 

I hope he does. I don’t like to see top players drop down the divisions and struggle even more. He scored 3 goals last season . We can’t pay someone 140k a week to repeat that in the championship.

JV is a legend ,I think he will stay and get us back in the prem ,loyal to the club as well ,he turned down arsenal to stay with the foxes 

[mad biker]

11 minutes ago, John rayner said:

JV is a legend ,I think he will stay and get us back in the prem ,loyal to the club as well ,he turned down arsenal to stay with the foxes 

You are correct John he is staying to help us get straight back up !

[Tom12345]

Does Vardy stay for another season? Yes please for sure. As we all learned, mentality and spirit is most important of all. Kasper and Morgan left a big hole in that regard, and if we want to keep some of the spirit that we had from the title winning season and what we had built in the last decade (which we have just dropped), we need to keep as many of the old guard with the right mentality and spirit as possible: Vardy, Albrighton and Evans (even if they are injured often). Hopefully we can have Kasper back.

 

Some of you think it is easy to just let them go and replace them with players from elsewhere because it is logical. I don’t agree. If we want to bounce right back, our best chance is to retain as many of the key first team players as possible -  the older players are ironically easier to keep than the likes of Maddison. I like to see Barnes stay though - this is his boyhood club afterall.

[MPH]

48 minutes ago, John rayner said:

JV is a legend ,I think he will stay and get us back in the prem ,loyal to the club as well ,he turned down arsenal to stay with the foxes 

loyal to the club? Maybe, but I’m sure he turned down. Arsenal because he felt it was the best thing for his career and family. 
 

140k p/w for someone who’s legs have gone and only scored 3 goals last season is more ‘ loyalty’ than we can afford, me thinks. We won’t terminate his contract but we can’t afford to kee him just for loyalty’s sake…

Edited 5 June 2023 by MPH

[brownfox]

NO, as much as I’m great fan of Vardy, it’s time to move on. The team needs to use this phase as a transition phase and with Vardy in the squad we have to adapt our to play to suit him. The team won’t gamble on anyone else or any youngsters as they will constantly be compared to him. I want to see a younger squad this year, what’s the point of having this training ground if we are not bringing young players through.

[RonnieTodger]

He’d be holding us back by staying. He’s on huge money and won’t get the goals that Mitrovic did for Fulham. 

[Muzzy_no7]

If he scores and plays he is currently earning almost as much by himself in a week than the entire first team squads at the likes of Millwall, Preston and Blackburn. 
 

 

[PaulW]

On 04/06/2023 at 02:07, filbertway said:

Of course he does. The only club he will get away with robbing money from for a 3rd year on the trot

 

I wish we knew how to part ways at the right time

As a Club. and as supporters, we all owe him big time.

[VLC86]

23 minutes ago, RonnieTodger said:

He’d be holding us back by staying. He’s on huge money and won’t get the goals that Mitrovic did for Fulham. 

I don’t really agree with this other than the money part. If he agrees a huge pay cut then he absolutely needs to stay, Daka is the one needing to move on.

[filbertway]

2 minutes ago, PaulW said:

As a Club. and as supporters, we all owe him big time.

I reckon the 20-30 odd million he will have earned in salary and bonuses probably covers it.

 

Not sure why people feel we need to waste our budget in the here and now as a thank you, like players have been playing for us for free and doing it out of the good of their heart. 

 

He'll go down as an all time great and a legend of the club, he's earned a massive amount of money in doing it and earned every penny of it. It doesn't change the fact that we're now paying premium money on a player no longer fit for purpose or worth that amount.

 

I can at least understand fans looking at it from an emotional point of view, but our directors and owner should be able to take a much more pragmatic view. We seem to think we're some kind of old/injured footballer sanctuary at times.

[RonnieTodger]

11 minutes ago, Costock_Fox said:

I don’t really agree with this other than the money part. If he agrees a huge pay cut then he absolutely needs to stay, Daka is the one needing to move on.

I just can’t imagine a manager being brave enough to bench him in the championship.