AjcW Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 Just now, Lambert09 said: i know we are supposed to be happy with this because ‘he was good at everton’ but was he? or was that just tarkowski… the stats are disgusting. He’s been bought on reputation and it’s as simple as that. we aren’t running how we should be Not to be a stat hater… but you’re always going to get one CB in a team standing out over another, and a lot of that can be down to what the coach has asked them to do. I’d be interested to see Tarks too. Let’s be honest no one playing under Dyche is going to be good in that middle section (progressive) are they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 29 June 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 29 June 2023 Announce new signings on July 1st in a new accounting year for us, yet bank the £40m for Maddison in the previous year to keep the wolf from the door? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 13 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: i know we are supposed to be happy with this because ‘he was good at everton’ but was he? or was that just tarkowski… the stats are disgusting. He’s been bought on reputation and it’s as simple as that. we aren’t running how we should be earilie reminding me of the sven era dyche knows defenders i don’t think everton would have kept him if they went down Played in a 4 at Everton and I believe one of the reasons wolves let him go originally was due to their new manager wanting to play a back 4 instead of a 5? - could be wrong with this but @TheBear may be able to confirm, ill happily be proved wrong. Can we get his stats for his time at Wolves playing in a back 3/5 what ever way you want to look at it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 1 minute ago, Ric Flair said: Announce new signings on July 1st in a new accounting year for us, yet bank the £40m for Maddison in the previous year to keep the wolf from the door? Doubt it - the accounts run until 30 June and contracts run from 1 July whether we announce players or not, I’m sure their registrations don’t begin until July 1st so fall into next years accounts anyway (as will madders sale) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFox99 Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 19 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: i know we are supposed to be happy with this because ‘he was good at everton’ but was he? or was that just tarkowski… the stats are disgusting. He’s been bought on reputation and it’s as simple as that. we aren’t running how we should be earilie reminding me of the sven era dyche knows defenders i don’t think everton would have kept him if they went down Not saying Coady is any good but fbref really doesn't tell you everything when it comes to defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 Just now, st albans fox said: Doubt it - the accounts run until 30 June and contracts run from 1 July whether we announce players or not, I’m sure their registrations don’t begin until July 1st so fall into next years accounts anyway (as will madders sale) But if we don't confirm the transfer until July 1st as opposed to 29th June then it's a new financial year it goes in to is it not? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridFox Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 Club are always so slow with these things. Get some positivity in ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 1 minute ago, LFox99 said: Not saying Coady is any good but fbref really doesn't tell you everything when it comes to defenders ??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 1 minute ago, LFox99 said: Not saying Coady is any good but fbref really doesn't tell you everything when it comes to defenders Firefox defensive stats for a team that has to do a lot of backs to the wall defendingbusially show up well compared to teams who can wear dressing gowns and slippers. Coady however has abysmal stats for Everton, but at Wolves he was always very good in that regard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillehamring Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 20 minutes ago, Lambert09 said: i know we are supposed to be happy with this because ‘he was good at everton’ but was he? or was that just tarkowski… the stats are disgusting. He’s been bought on reputation and it’s as simple as that. we aren’t running how we should be earilie reminding me of the sven era dyche knows defenders i don’t think everton would have kept him if they went down Probably not really fair to judge him on his performance that season - it's never easy to play well in an underperforming team, add in to that the fact that he was in a kind of loan-limbo, possibly didn't get a full pre-season, adjusting to a new system, largely playing as a parked bus.... But, from Evertonians i've spoken to, he was THE leader through all of that, even though he had no particular reason to stand out, or even display much loyalty, he was the one most people say stood up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillehamring Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 5 minutes ago, st albans fox said: Doubt it - the accounts run until 30 June and contracts run from 1 July whether we announce players or not, I’m sure their registrations don’t begin until July 1st so fall into next years accounts anyway (as will madders sale) Not an expert but that doesn't seem to make sense - what about if you buy a player in January, would their registration not begin until July? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 3 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: But if we don't confirm the transfer until July 1st as opposed to 29th June then it's a new financial year it goes in to is it not? I don’t think the announcement date is relevant I’m sure that contracts run from 1st July. Maddison is probably still technically our player until tomorrow evening. We’ve agreed the sale and madders has signed the contract. it’s commencement date isn’t mentioned but i assume it’s this Saturday. Even if you could take the £38m into the 22/23 accounts, pushing purchases back to july 1isn’t a big deal because the amounts are spread over length of the deal. coady will be -2.5m on the 23/24 accounts. Winks -1.5m 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st albans fox Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 11 minutes ago, Lillehamring said: Not an expert but that doesn't seem to make sense - what about if you buy a player in January, would their registration not begin until July? No - I think what I’m describing is only relevant in that period from when the window opens (mid June) until July 1. I can see some issues though. There were internationals still being played after the window opened. Is anyone aware of a player actually signing for a new club after 14 June when the window opened and then playing an international game afterwards? If so I can see possible insurance issues in case of injury. (this doesn’t apply to out of contract players who we know are contracted to end June ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClaphamFox Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 On a bright cold day in April when the clocks strike thirteen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickyblueeyes Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 LCFC Twitter isn’t announcing anyone new. They’re still too busy thanking Maddison for the 14th time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weller54 Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 16 minutes ago, Mickyblueeyes said: LCFC Twitter isn’t announcing anyone new. They’re still too busy thanking Maddison for the 14th time. Thanking him for what.... Fvcking up (and trying to be a show pony) the penalty against Everton that would have saved our PL status? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fox_favourite Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 So sweepstake - when is this going to be announced? 10am tomorrow I'm going for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACF Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 1 hour ago, Ric Flair said: Announce new signings on July 1st in a new accounting year for us, yet bank the £40m for Maddison in the previous year to keep the wolf from the door? Makes sense, I was thinking it was more about not using an FBS shirt in any announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoyleFox Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 4 minutes ago, ACF said: Makes sense, I was thinking it was more about not using an FBS shirt in any announcement. Grab a plain training top out of the shop. Didn't we announce Vardy and just give him a LCFC hoodie as we were between sponsors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxesfan98 Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 I think we should bear in mind that any stats for Coady for the last few seasons will be for the prem which we are no longer in. Of course they won't look as good last season when Everton were shite and for most of the season didn't play a system that suits him or left him on the bench. Feels like people are still thinking we're in the prem and expecting us to sign Fofana level players when in reality the team is crying out for leadership, experience and quality which this guy has a lot of. Sure, £8.5m is a lot but it's not like we're going to be strapped for cash and if we go straight back up it'll be worth it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicolo Barella Posted 29 June 2023 Share Posted 29 June 2023 14 hours ago, Pliskin said: The idea is you defend as a unit. If we defend properly this won’t be an issue. Huth was a slow bastard, and Morgan wasn’t much quicker…. And we won the league with that pair. 16 hours ago, jonny_wright said: We won the league with Morgan and Huth- and we are now in the championship…. Other clubs will be looking at our back 4 saying wow! That in the championship is unreal Sure I understand that obviously, but I also don't think Maresca is going to set us up for a cheeky compact 4-4-2 that's quick in the transition. It all depends on tactics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACF Posted 30 June 2023 Share Posted 30 June 2023 2 hours ago, FoyleFox said: Grab a plain training top out of the shop. Didn't we announce Vardy and just give him a LCFC hoodie as we were between sponsors? I don’t disagree with you - but I’m a marketing man. No better way to announce a new sponsor, or no sponsor at all, than with positive new signings. Otherwise they announce it separately and it will get the interest a new sponsor announcement will get, absolutely **** all. Image of Winks and Coady holding new shirt sponsor on Sky Sports News is the best way to start the sponsorship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudio Fannieri Posted 30 June 2023 Share Posted 30 June 2023 I think the announcements will be today, Friday feeling and all that, also chance to build up the excitement and momentum in readiness for kit launch and pre-season, as preparation for new season gets fully under way from next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pliskin Posted 30 June 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 30 June 2023 One thing that’s worth noting with Coady. Is his professionalism. He is a very prim and proper guy, looks after himself, doesn’t drink and takes the game seriously. He will raise the standards of the dressing room, which I think it’s fair to say has been lacking since Kaspers departure. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honeybradger Posted 30 June 2023 Share Posted 30 June 2023 7 hours ago, foxesfan98 said: I think we should bear in mind that any stats for Coady for the last few seasons will be for the prem which we are no longer in. Of course they won't look as good last season when Everton were shite and for most of the season didn't play a system that suits him or left him on the bench. Feels like people are still thinking we're in the prem and expecting us to sign Fofana level players when in reality the team is crying out for leadership, experience and quality which this guy has a lot of. Sure, £8.5m is a lot but it's not like we're going to be strapped for cash and if we go straight back up it'll be worth it. 'People need to realise we're no longer in the prem, we're in the championship' is the new 'we were in league one once'. You would have hoped Perspective FC would have died off after we got relegated behind the likes of Bournemouth, Nottingham Forrest and Everton last season but sadly there will always be a section of our fanbase who think they have significantly more insight than the other 90% of the fanbase and will belittle anyone that questions anything to do with the club. People are allowed to question whether a player who couldnt make the starting XI for a poor Everton side who finished one point above us last year will be any good for the team outside of his dressing room presence. He may turn out as a good signing for us but it's not wrong to question these things just because we're in a lower league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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