Criggers Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 We’ve been burned with last year of contract players just this very past season. He doesn’t owe us any loyalty and even Everton might be appealing to him. Whether we think he’s good enough or would tear up the Championship or not is kinda irrelevant if he wants to stay in the PL. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post smudger63 Posted 23 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 23 July 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, LinekersLugs said: Southampton away last season was one of the worst efforts I have ever seen from a footballer; I don’t ever remember his being excellent 🤦♂️ How about the season when he finally had a run in the side and finished our top scorer, while at the same time being instrumental in getting us to the Cup Final. The start of the following season Nacho could have been excused for thinking that finishing the clubs top scorer the previous season would warrant starting the next season, but once again he was reduced to being used as a bit part player. In my opinion, keep Nacho and he easily gets 20 plus goals and assists combined, and we are going to need that if we have any chance of getting promoted, especially given that we've just lost a barrell load of goals and assists with the sale of Maddison and Barnes. To bring someone in to get the kind of numbers that I believe Nacho will bring is going to cost more than the poultry 10 million that we are reportedly thinking of doing business for, not to mention the money it will bring if we keep him and his goals and assists help to get us back up. With one year on his contract remaining, then yes its a gamble, because he could walk away for nothing next season, but for the sake of the 10 million that has been reportedly offered this season, its a gamble worth taking. Edited 23 July 2023 by smudger63 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 Starts today, so doesn't look likely to be off anywhere soon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number 6 Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 People talk like he never got a chance; when he found himself as a starter he often produced awful displays. I think someone described him on here as a chaos merchant and that is a great description. Can be useful if you're scrapping or potentially very useful if you're struggling to break down a low block, but he won't find himself as the main man in Enzo's system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wolfox Posted 23 July 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 23 July 2023 We need some @Finnegan stats pronto to close this discussion down He’d be one the very best players to hit the Championship 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxin_Mad Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 8 hours ago, Sly said: I think if you replaced Daka with “Vardy”, this could have been a post on here 10 years ago. Daka isn't 1/200th of the player Vardy was and is. Vardy had something. Daka I've seen absolutely nothing but hope I'm wrong. If he was the striker we rely on we have problems unless the coaching staff can make a big difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 46 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said: Daka isn't 1/200th of the player Vardy was and is. Vardy had something. Daka I've seen absolutely nothing but hope I'm wrong. If he was the striker we rely on we have problems unless the coaching staff can make a big difference. People did say the same about Vardy. Don’t get me wrong though, I’m 50/50 on Daka. Vardy always had the aggression. His technique is also underrated. I’m not sure Daka has it. A bit like Musa really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cropstonfox Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 51 minutes ago, Foxin_Mad said: Daka isn't 1/200th of the player Vardy was and is. Vardy had something. Daka I've seen absolutely nothing but hope I'm wrong. If he was the striker we rely on we have problems unless the coaching staff can make a big difference. Elvis Hammond was twice the player Daka Is! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichfox Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 2 hours ago, Jimbo said: Starts today, so doesn't look likely to be off anywhere soon I heard he didn't start today... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergen fox Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 We should look to sell daka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxesWalk Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 So much for the idea of him going to Fulham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxyJim1987 Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 Wow 😮😮 Raul is a top replacement for Mitrovic at that price. Maybe not quite the same after his head injury but for that price he's a great buy. Still doesn't mean Kels won't be a target for someone like Fulham. I can see a few players like him starting the season with us and then being sold late in the window when bids come in that we can't turn down. Praet, Kelechi, Castagne, Faes, Iversen, Ndidi, Soumare, any or all of those could still be sold before the end of August. I can see more loans being done by us later on to replace outgoings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambert09 Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 Would Maresca be starting him over daka if he was likely to leave? I have a sneaky feeling we are just realising that nobody will come to the table with a reasonable fee for him. 8m is not worth cashing in imo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 66 Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 £8-10m is what he is worth with a year left on his contract. Would have been treble that with 2-3 years left. Not the man to take us in to the new era. Take the money and look to buy Piroe and an upcoming youngster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markko Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 12 minutes ago, Fox 66 said: £8-10m is what he is worth with a year left on his contract. Would have been treble that with 2-3 years left. Not the man to take us in to the new era. Take the money and look to buy Piroe and an upcoming youngster. Piroe would be 15 million and an upcoming youngster may be another 5. Where is the money coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danno Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 52 minutes ago, FoxyJim1987 said: Wow 😮😮 Raul is a top replacement for Mitrovic at that price. Maybe not quite the same after his head injury but for that price he's a great buy. Still doesn't mean Kels won't be a target for someone like Fulham. I can see a few players like him starting the season with us and then being sold late in the window when bids come in that we can't turn down. Praet, Kelechi, Castagne, Faes, Iversen, Ndidi, Soumare, any or all of those could still be sold before the end of August. I can see more loans being done by us later on to replace outgoings. Jimenez is awful these days, hasn’t been anywhere near as good since the head injury 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyK Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 1 hour ago, FoxesWalk said: So much for the idea of him going to Fulham I thought Daniel Podence was a decent player. How come he's leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 66 Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 13 minutes ago, markko said: Piroe would be 15 million and an upcoming youngster may be another 5. Where is the money coming from? We’ve just brought in £80m in sales. Reduced wage bill by millions, hopefully many more deadwood to leave and have parachute payments. Now is the time for the refresh that we need. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest glasgowfox Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 39 minutes ago, Fox 66 said: We’ve just brought in £80m in sales. Reduced wage bill by millions, hopefully many more deadwood to leave and have parachute payments. Now is the time for the refresh that we need. I may be wrong but we will not get parachute payments as they were used as security over a loan, at least that's my understanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicesterlad1989 Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 53 minutes ago, Fox 66 said: We’ve just brought in £80m in sales. Reduced wage bill by millions, hopefully many more deadwood to leave and have parachute payments. Now is the time for the refresh that we need. Getting rid of the deadwood seems to be the problem though. I certainly wouldn't class Iheanacho as part of that list, however if Maresca has no intentions of using him then we should cash in. He's been very much a bit part player since he's been here but I'd disagree with your statement further up. When he's had his chances, he's performed. For every Southampton away there was a Leeds away or Spurs at home. Unlike Daka and Vardy, he's great with his back to goal. Yes at times his touch is poor and he misses chances but he provides a perfect link to other players and has the confidence to take a shot at goal, which last season both Daka and Vardy didn't seem to do. Ultimately I think he needs a team to be setup around how he plays and an arm round him from a manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fox 66 Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 15 minutes ago, leicesterlad1989 said: Getting rid of the deadwood seems to be the problem though. I certainly wouldn't class Iheanacho as part of that list, however if Maresca has no intentions of using him then we should cash in. He's been very much a bit part player since he's been here but I'd disagree with your statement further up. When he's had his chances, he's performed. For every Southampton away there was a Leeds away or Spurs at home. Unlike Daka and Vardy, he's great with his back to goal. Yes at times his touch is poor and he misses chances but he provides a perfect link to other players and has the confidence to take a shot at goal, which last season both Daka and Vardy didn't seem to do. Ultimately I think he needs a team to be setup around how he plays and an arm round him from a manager. He’s not one of the deadwood I’m referring to. Unfortunately, he’s a back up striker and will be for at least half of premiership teams. He had a purple patch in covid times but you can see from his poor touch and decision making that we should just take what we can for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leicesterlad1989 Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 19 minutes ago, Fox 66 said: He’s not one of the deadwood I’m referring to. Unfortunately, he’s a back up striker and will be for at least half of premiership teams. He had a purple patch in covid times but you can see from his poor touch and decision making that we should just take what we can for him. We aren't a Premier League team next season so at this level he'd excel, for me. But if he isn't going to play, then I'd agree, sell. Purple patch coincided with the fact he was given an extended run in the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoveValleyFox Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 1 hour ago, glasgowfox said: I may be wrong but we will not get parachute payments as they were used as security over a loan, at least that's my understanding. Are you suggesting that there might be a flaw in KPFC's business model? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 14 minutes ago, leicesterlad1989 said: We aren't a Premier League team next season so at this level he'd excel, for me. But if he isn't going to play, then I'd agree, sell. Purple patch coincided with the fact he was given an extended run in the team. People will always play the "Covid" card when referring to his purple patch, those who are just convinced he isn't very good. Fact is since he joined, that's his only real run as a starter in the 1st team, but he scored 12 goals in 10 games because "it was behind closed doors" Kel is massively underrated by many but in my opinion he's been used poorly. He's not a lone a striker, he's not a poacher. Rodgers would often refer to him as being a different type of striker to Vardy, which of course he is, and would tell us that he plays well with his back to goal, he doesn't because his 1st touch is about as good as Heskey's. What he is, is more intelligent on the pitch than we give him credit for and if he is to stay, and start, with 2 wide forwards and 2 running in behind (if Enzo's tactics mirror Pep's early signs suggest they might) I'm confident he gets 20+ goals this season 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trugerkem Posted 23 July 2023 Share Posted 23 July 2023 On 22/07/2023 at 14:05, Happy Fox said: Iheanacho’s second touch is usually a tackle 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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