Popular Post Ric Flair Posted 26 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 26 July 2023 3 minutes ago, bmt said: Poch talking about Conor Gallagher - "The players that are here on the tour are in our plan." Not necessarily true. They've taken more than 25 players and will make more signings between now and the end of August so I guarantee you some players currently on their tour will leave. Journo's seem to think this is still happening. 5
bmt Posted 26 July 2023 Posted 26 July 2023 15 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: Not necessarily true. They've taken more than 25 players and will make more signings between now and the end of August so I guarantee you some players currently on their tour will leave. Journo's seem to think this is still happening. Fingers crossed!
Bluearmyfox28 Posted 26 July 2023 Posted 26 July 2023 2 hours ago, Ric Flair said: Not necessarily true. They've taken more than 25 players and will make more signings between now and the end of August so I guarantee you some players currently on their tour will leave. Journo's seem to think this is still happening. Exactly, they are all in their plans until they get replacements. Like Enzo says got to take it a day at a time and work with what you have got.
Brenfox Posted 26 July 2023 Posted 26 July 2023 We desperately need midfielders. I think Wilf & Bouba will be off & despite reports I don't see Enzo fancying Hamza. 1
weller54 Posted 26 July 2023 Posted 26 July 2023 17 minutes ago, Brenfox said: We desperately need midfielders. I think Wilf & Bouba will be off & despite reports I don't see Enzo fancying Hamza. Oh I don't know... Enzo must be jealous of his hair? 1
Wortho Posted 26 July 2023 Posted 26 July 2023 We are so short of creative and wingers at the moment. It is really serious that this addressed, otherwise we will start badly and won't recover. 1
ClaphamFox Posted 26 July 2023 Posted 26 July 2023 Just now, Wortho said: We are so short of creative and wingers at the moment. It is really serious that this addressed, otherwise we will start badly and won't recover. Our squad at the end of August will likely be very different to the one at the beginning of August. It’s far from ideal, but all teams are in the same boat. To say we ‘won’t recover’ if we don’t have a great start is a bit silly - every season in the Championship, teams put together runs of form that push them up the table from nowhere. It happens all the time.
Popular Post Babylon Posted 26 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 26 July 2023 5 minutes ago, Wortho said: We are so short of creative and wingers at the moment. It is really serious that this addressed, otherwise we will start badly and won't recover. Like Forest when they got promoted? It's a marathon not a sprint. We would all prefer a good start, but we've had huge upheaval. It's likely to take time no matter what players we have in. 9
Popular Post LCFCCKEANO Posted 26 July 2023 Popular Post Posted 26 July 2023 13 minutes ago, Wortho said: We are so short of creative and wingers at the moment. It is really serious that this addressed, otherwise we will start badly and won't recover. Burnley won one of their first five last year 6 1
Rigga Posted 26 July 2023 Posted 26 July 2023 It just wouldn’t be us to be really organised with a settled squad going into the new season would it 😂 it’s going to be a real rollercoaster early season with last years dead wood still in our ranks.. There’s no will to win with some of them. you can’t teach that…if it’s not in them…we’re fooked!
Wortho Posted 26 July 2023 Posted 26 July 2023 30 minutes ago, ClaphamFox said: Our squad at the end of August will likely be very different to the one at the beginning of August. It’s far from ideal, but all teams are in the same boat. To say we ‘won’t recover’ if we don’t have a great start is a bit silly - every season in the Championship, teams put together runs of form that push them up the table from nowhere. It happens all the time. Yeah I accept that. But you are presuming that we will come good, which I sincerely hope we do and get promoted. I suppose we always have some drama going on, let's hope it is not mid-table mediocrity.
Lillehamring Posted 26 July 2023 Posted 26 July 2023 10 hours ago, Rigga said: It just wouldn’t be us to be really organised with a settled squad going into the new season would it 😂 it’s going to be a real rollercoaster early season with last years dead wood still in our ranks.. There’s no will to win with some of them. you can’t teach that…if it’s not in them…we’re fooked! This is purely speculation - you have no idea why certain players played they way they did last year - to assume that it is simply a lack of 'will to win' is unfair. Many of our under performing players are gone, some were new to the club and haven't been given a chance to show what they can do in a positive team set up, others have had good form in the past and may rediscover that in this new version of the club.
AKCJ Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 20 hours ago, Babylon said: Like Forest when they got promoted? It's a marathon not a sprint. We would all prefer a good start, but we've had huge upheaval. It's likely to take time no matter what players we have in. 20 hours ago, LCFCCKEANO said: Burnley won one of their first five last year I think the difference between us and Burnley/Forest et al is that if we don't start relatively quickly (top 6 after 10 games or so) then I think fans will be on the club's back again. It'll be toxic like it was last season. I think the club needs to keep the fans onside this year if we're to be successful.
Ian S Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 5 minutes ago, AKCJ said: I think the difference between us and Burnley/Forest et al is that if we don't start relatively quickly (top 6 after 10 games or so) then I think fans will be on the club's back again. It'll be toxic like it was last season. I think the club needs to keep the fans onside this year if we're to be successful. Genuine question, do you go to the games, where was this toxic culture you refer to last season, for the vast majority of time it was quite the opposite which was part of the problem. 3
Simmo86 Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 (edited) 22 hours ago, AKCJ said: I think the difference between us and Burnley/Forest et al is that if we don't start relatively quickly (top 6 after 10 games or so) then I think fans will be on the club's back again. It'll be toxic like it was last season. I think the club needs to keep the fans onside this year if we're to be successful. TBH it was the complete opposite, it should've been toxic but it wasn't. Edited 28 July 2023 by Simmo86 4
AKCJ Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 18 minutes ago, Ian S said: Genuine question, do you go to the games, where was this toxic culture you refer to last season, for the vast majority of time it was quite the opposite which was part of the problem. Yeah, went to about 25 League games last season.
sacreblueits442 Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 18 minutes ago, AKCJ said: Yeah, went to about 25 League games last season. ...serious question, did you feel any unease in the crowd when you went!!! There may have been pockets of dessent that you may have witnessed but it was not noticeable throughout our supporters who attended games. FT was somewhat a toxic environment and has calmed down with the change of manager, style of play and with player acquisition, but the underlying problems are still there, at the head of the club. You still feel that there is an undercurrent of frustration, that leaves the possibility of a return to those wretched months last season.
st albans fox Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 10 hours ago, FrankieADZ said: starting for chelsea tonight Poch will give him every chance to prove himself in case they don’t get their targets in. Can’t see him going anywhere until late in the window
AKCJ Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 14 minutes ago, sacreblueits442 said: ...serious question, did you feel any unease in the crowd when you went!!! There may have been pockets of dessent that you may have witnessed but it was not noticeable throughout our supporters who attended games. FT was somewhat a toxic environment and has calmed down with the change of manager, style of play and with player acquisition, but the underlying problems are still there, at the head of the club. You still feel that there is an undercurrent of frustration, that leaves the possibility of a return to those wretched months last season. Seen Leiceater fans scrapping with Leicester fan, constant booing/slagging off of Leicester players and barely any support for the team. You're welcome to think that's all normal but it was the most toxic season I've seen at the club in a good 15 years or so. Wasn't at all enjoyable. 1
LCFCCKEANO Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 1 hour ago, AKCJ said: I think the difference between us and Burnley/Forest et al is that if we don't start relatively quickly (top 6 after 10 games or so) then I think fans will be on the club's back again. It'll be toxic like it was last season. I think the club needs to keep the fans onside this year if we're to be successful. Do think you are dead on with this, hopefully our lot can keep their heads after the inevitable slightly slower start in a completely new system
LCFCCKEANO Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 1 hour ago, Ian S said: Genuine question, do you go to the games, where was this toxic culture you refer to last season, for the vast majority of time it was quite the opposite which was part of the problem. Can say from where I sit it got to a point where after five minutes you’d have lads stood up screaming abuse, it was most definitely toxic in areas of the Kop
Jimbo Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 1 minute ago, LCFCCKEANO said: Can say from where I sit it got to a point where after five minutes you’d have lads stood up screaming abuse, it was most definitely toxic in areas of the Kop Can back this up sat in G2 and witnessing some of the scenes in the Kop there was definitely an uneasy feeling. Booing, pure hatred coming from some fans and it was staring to spread. Without that run before the world cup and subsequently the world cup break, if we'd carried on our season how we started it and finished it, that toxic feeling would have spread a lot more than it did
sacreblueits442 Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 4 minutes ago, LCFCCKEANO said: Can say from where I sit it got to a point where after five minutes you’d have lads stood up screaming abuse, it was most definitely toxic in areas of the Kop ...yet there were no palpable dissent towards the board or the manager!!! The media did not pick it up, and certainly the majority of supporters did not have a sense that there was any dissatisfaction throughout the games. If there was a moment where the whole of the ground should have made itself heard, it was then. The effect was a manager who stayed too long, because no pressure was being brought to bear on him from above. 1
Ian S Posted 27 July 2023 Posted 27 July 2023 15 minutes ago, LCFCCKEANO said: Can say from where I sit it got to a point where after five minutes you’d have lads stood up screaming abuse, it was most definitely toxic in areas of the Kop Well it certainly did not transmit around the ground, small pockets of dissent does not make it a toxic atmosphere which it definitely wasn’t, even the matches where there were banners in the UFS area there was very little uptake anywhere else in the ground. A few hundred out of 29k or so just isn’t toxic. If it had of been just maybe our idiot of a manager would have gone sooner. 1
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