MPH Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 On 28/07/2023 at 16:15, Simmo86 said: Baggies fans aren’t bothered. Steer clear Some Leicester fans were not bothered about Barnes leaving. I have given up using other fans as a bench mark for how good a player is. Unless they rave about him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fosse93 Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 I actually think he'd be alright. Would want another winger in as well though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFox Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 1 hour ago, messerschmitt said: This is how we ended up with Bertrand, Vestergaard and Perez. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sankey93 Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 Jesus some of you are going to lose your mind if we pay 7million 😂 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
An Sionnach Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 1 minute ago, FoxesWalk said: Thinking about Perez in isolation it’s hard to say he is pound for pound one of our worst ever transfers, but when you think about the opportunity cost of not spending that on a proper winger, it may well have been, if we had selected an actual left footed winger instead that went on to output Barnes-level numbers. That said, I still think his defensive contribution was undervalued, and I don’t think it’s total coincidence that we started to fall apart defensively when he was dropped and we had nobody defending from the front. Maddison, Barnes and an aging Vardy do very little in that regard. We have tried a number of left footed wingers , they have all been underwhelming. There appears to be selective amnesia on here about that. Why are they so underwhelming ? because there is a vanishingly small number who are actually any good. One season wonders are everywhere of course and all over You Tube. Two years down the line they have fallen flat on their faces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gerard Posted 1 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 1 August 2023 1 hour ago, South Shire Fox said: Whats he ever done to justify a 4/5 million move to us? Whole point of a clear out was to get rid of deadwood, not fill it with more bums Too many "give him a chance" types in our fanbase. I've seen these signings too many times, poorly rated by the fans of the club that see him play and we cling on to the hope that it will be different here. Ward, Ghezzal, Vestergaard, etc. When was the last time we were really happy to get someone out the door for a good fee, Musa? This club never learns, sounds like more deadwood to re[lace the deadwood who just left. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliFOXnia Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 1 minute ago, Sankey93 said: There’s a player in there imo. Lad just needs a fresh start with new faces. We will see he’s still a WBA player and only a small rumour so who knows. Ain’t West Brom absolutely Bob Bint n’all? 5million quid is some cheek. If they want rid and need the cash they can have 2 at an absolute push. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 Just now, Sankey93 said: Jesus some of you are going to lose your mind if we pay 7million 😂 So should you be, do you seriously believe we should be paying anything like that when we're struggling to offload Praet for a similar amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DezFox Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 1 minute ago, Fosse93 said: I actually think he'd be alright. Would want another winger in as well though. No point getting a winger in for the sake of it! This is the exact reason we are in this mess, overpaying for crocked dross we can never shift. So far this transfer window there has not been transfer where the selling team has thought we have got a good deal, it needs to stop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 Just now, DezFox said: No point getting a winger in for the sake of it! This is the exact reason we are in this mess, overpaying for crocked dross we can never shift. So far this transfer window there has not been transfer where the selling team has thought we have got a good deal, it needs to stop! I'm not exactly sure I unerstand that but if you're saying what I think you are how do you know what Wolves, Man City, Montpellier thought about the deals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sankey93 Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 1 minute ago, hackneyfox said: So should you be, do you seriously believe we should be paying anything like that when we're struggling to offload Praet for a similar amount? I don’t care about transfer fees tbh. I’d keep praet aswell especially in this league the lad should rip it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCJ Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 I'm OK with it. I think there's a player there and we desperately need wingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Flair Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 For that fee we can take a chance on a progressive younger player from an inferior league, what we used to do and what the likes of Brighton and Brentford do and have replaced us as clubs able to keep adding value to their squad. South America for example would get us a player of vast potential. I wouldn't mind Diangana comes with huge question marks on fitness and ability at this level.hes had one decent season 4 years ago. Every bit as much of a risk as someone like Kwame Poku who's seemingly progressing through the leagues. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 1 hour ago, messerschmitt said: This is how we ended up with Bertrand, Vestergaard and Perez. When you buy crap without doing your due diligence then you get hit several times. You get hit with the fee You can't get rid because the teams that would have them can't afford them They invariably move on a free It's why I didn't mind the Soumare signing because he underperformed but we were still offered 80% of what we paid for him last season if not this. What I don't like is signing players that we're the only club in the world who would want and pay that for the player. This club is a joke. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosbehFox Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 It’s a hard no for the money being spoken about. You’ll get a winger from one of the second tier of European leagues for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lcfc82 Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 He’s not done much in the last couple of seasons at West Brom. I’m surprised there’s so much interest in him, especially at the figure being mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strokes Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Ric Flair said: For that fee we can take a chance on a progressive younger player from an inferior league, what we used to do and what the likes of Brighton and Brentford do and have replaced us as clubs able to keep adding value to their squad. South America for example would get us a player of vast potential. I wouldn't mind Diangana comes with huge question marks on fitness and ability at this level.hes had one decent season 4 years ago. Every bit as much of a risk as someone like Kwame Poku who's seemingly progressing through the leagues. I thought Poku was more a 8/10? Edited 1 August 2023 by Strokes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 1 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 1 August 2023 15 minutes ago, FoxesWalk said: Thinking about Perez in isolation it’s hard to say he is pound for pound one of our worst ever transfers, but when you think about the opportunity cost of not spending that on a proper winger, it may well have been, if we had selected an actual left footed winger instead that went on to output Barnes-level numbers. That said, I still think his defensive contribution was undervalued, and I don’t think it’s total coincidence that we started to fall apart defensively when he was dropped and we had nobody defending from the front. Maddison, Barnes and an aging Vardy do very little in that regard. I'd say it's important to make a distinction between a footballer and their transfer. I think you can make a very strong argument for Ayoze Perez being the worst transfer in our history, that doesn't make him by default our worst ever player. Ironically, I actually think that him being such a terrible transfer is a major reason that he was quite significantly under-rated as a player by Leicester fans. He played a fairly important role in a strong team that should have finished in the Champions League places twice. He enabled Ricardo, in particular, but also Tielemans and Vardy to all do a lot of their best work for us. But he was an absolutely diabolical signing for £30m. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan. Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 Some people on this forum are deluded. We are a sinking ship and we need solid signings to stabilise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 34 minutes ago, Sankey93 said: Bertrand was way past it when he joined! and vestergaard **** me no words for him. perez was a decent player for us especially first few years. Perez was a terrible buy. Never improved us and was the worst player in the first XI. Then he became a squad player. The we couldn't sell him. Then he left for a free. In what way can anyone describe Perez as a "decent buy"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudulike Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 Can't we just stick with Sharky? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wasyls Pec Deck Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 Yes to all those who say Perez was shit. I can count the amount of good games he had on one hand, and one do them was a 15-20 min cameo in Eindhoven. I’d steer clear of Diagana. He doesn’t make the Grade(y) for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 8 minutes ago, Sankey93 said: I don’t care about transfer fees tbh. I’d keep praet aswell especially in this league the lad should rip it up. Transfer fees don't come directly out of our pocket but paying over inflated prices and salaries has put us in the position we are, it helped lead to relegation and means that we currently can't offload a few players and get in replacements. If you can't see that ...... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finnegan Posted 1 August 2023 Popular Post Share Posted 1 August 2023 3 minutes ago, nathan. said: Some people on this forum are deluded. We are a sinking ship and we need solid signings to stabilise. Deluded is thinking Grady Diangana for £7m is the sort of signing that "stabilises" us. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hackneyfox Posted 1 August 2023 Share Posted 1 August 2023 3 minutes ago, Gerard said: Perez was a terrible buy. Never improved us and was the worst player in the first XI. Then he became a squad player. The we couldn't sell him. Then he left for a free. In what way can anyone describe Perez as a "decent buy"? He helped win us an FA Cup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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