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On 06/12/2025 at 22:58, coolhandfox said:

How did they do with Dennis Wise? 

Apparently the coward Wise ran and hid in his room having locked the door after the cowardly Davidson incident, as Elliott wanted to punch his lights out and was smashing on his door.

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Clearly believes in his head that the club was doomed when Enzo left and everything that's happened since is someone else's fault. 

 

We have so many players who won't accept any accountability for the relegation. I bet if you asked Harry Winks and Wout Faes they'd both say they're levels above the championship and all that's gone on has been because of bad recruitment and poor managerial choices. 

 

One bad egg you can deal with, but the amount we have would cause any club serious issues. This is all self inflicted again though. I don't blame the club for signing Winks. I actually think it was the right decision. The finger needs pointing at the wages though. If they don't give him such a ludicrous contract then they have the chance to offload him. Another one where they've ensured we will see him go on a free. 

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On 06/08/2023 at 20:26, blueharmie said:

Honestly an upgraded teliemans.

Some corkers on the early pages of this thread

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Listen, he's a good player when used in the correct system. 
What he doesn't have is pace.
He ain't the best in a two man sitting role. He don't have the energy to cover the ground required of that role.

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On 11/12/2025 at 23:44, dmayne7 said:

That's probably even more stupid then if he took photos of it and let them get onto the the internet. Either way, it's a complete pattern of unprofessional behaviour at a time when it can be ill-afforded. 

 

Yes, lots of them are probably morons but not all of them seem to get caught up, let alone with his hit rate in the past 12 months. This all comes back to the fact he's twice been dropped for his crap attitude and the performances have certainly backed that up

Hang on, you just declared that he did something, got proved wrong and have decided that somehow makes your point stronger?

 

I do think he has an issue but the sign thing has always been wrong

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12 hours ago, FoxinNotts said:

Listen, he's a good player when used in the correct system. 
What he doesn't have is pace.
He ain't the best in a two man sitting role. He don't have the energy to cover the ground required of that role.

Surely a two man sitting role covers his lack of pace ?  Doesn’t a single pivot exposes him more ?

 

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4 hours ago, st albans fox said:

Surely a two man sitting role covers his lack of pace ?  Doesn’t a single pivot exposes him more ?

 

Yeah, it does. I was thinking more about 'the box' formation that Maresca used to make play. He was only good in that!

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5 hours ago, Gamble92 said:

I've even transfer listed him on FM. That's how angry I am

You show him! Mardy little pr1ck. On FM I never sign any players who have 'selfish' as one of their traits. Refuse to have bell ends in my squad 🤣

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On 12/12/2025 at 17:30, FoxinNotts said:

Listen, he's a good player when used in the correct system. 
What he doesn't have is pace.
He ain't the best in a two man sitting role. He don't have the energy to cover the ground required of that role.


 

I would say his man problem appears to be his attitude and the fact he doesn’t seem to want to be here. We’ve seen it countless times - players who don’t want to be here have a massive dip in form and commitment that makes them unplayable..

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1 hour ago, oundlefox said:

Since Winks got torpedoed out of the squad we’ve beaten Derby, should have beaten Bristol City and beat Ipswich. Scored 8 goals and picked up 7 points. Winks is fine in a winning team on a roll and all things rosy. But AWOL when you need to dig in, roll your sleeves up and dig in. Last 3 games have proved we don’t need him 

I must admit I was wrong about Winks. I thought he was one of the players we’d really rely on at this level. 
 

I still think he has qualities, but it’s clear he thinks he’s bigger than the club. Two managers have now dropped him from the squad so he’s obviously a toxic presence. 
 

I didn’t think I’d be championing James, Skipp and BDCR as the starting midfield 3 at the start of the season but, absolutely, there shouldn’t now be a route for Winks back into the side. 
 

Get rid of him if we can but, the problem is, I can’t see the clubs Winks wants coming in for him unless a really desperate PL club takes a punt. With the right attitude he could have put himself in the shop window. Now I think he’ll just stink the place out until the end of the season 

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On 12/12/2025 at 22:25, Tuna said:

Some corkers on the early pages of this thread

To be fair he looked a very good player in a winning team when we signed him. Many were wondering why he was with us in the Championship and not in the Premier League. 
 

Now we most definitely know 

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On 13/12/2025 at 01:26, Gamble92 said:

 

One bad egg you can deal with, but the amount we have would cause any club serious issues. This is all self inflicted again though. I don't blame the club for signing Winks. I actually think it was the right decision. The finger needs pointing at the wages though. If they don't give him such a ludicrous contract then they have the chance to offload him. Another one where they've ensured we will see him go on a free. 

This point keeps coming up - we have paid too much to too many on contracts that are too long. But if we hadn’t stretched to those players’ demands, fans would be turning on the board/owner saying we need more backing. If we’d lost out on, say, Winks because we didn’t want to pay him enough or Skipp because we didn’t want to pay the transfer fee, then at the time it looks like we’ve lost out on a decent player who could do a job for us. There’s always an element of the unknown with transfers, but you can’t put escape clauses in or contracts become worthless to the player. 

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1 hour ago, LCFCCKEANO said:

Just a bad guy, simple as, extremely talented bad guy but a bad guy. A YouTuber who has since been legitimately arrested for sexual assault called him out for being the ‘worst person he’d had to deal with for a video’for what it’s worth. The tldr is an accused sexual predator thinks he is a bad guy so I would probably consider the thought that he might be a *****

Well that’s some interesting logic >_<

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It's quite interesting that after going down in 2023 and we started to rid ourselves of the 'bad eggs' we started getting in good guys again. The first two to arrive - Winks and Coady.

 

Funny how it works. Pearson's judge of character was the main thing behind our rise and our total neglect for this is one of the main reasons for our decline. Clearly, as suspected, nothing had been learnt after that relegation whatsoever. Short-term signings, both bad value.

 

Well, if nothing else it's another win without him. I hated this idea we were 'desperate' for him. That sort of desperation is so utterly tinpot, spineless, weak. It's a step away from that shenanigans at least. He should be out the door 1st January.

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33 minutes ago, Dan said:

It's quite interesting that after going down in 2023 and we started to rid ourselves of the 'bad eggs' we started getting in good guys again. The first two to arrive - Winks and Coady.

 

Funny how it works. Pearson's judge of character was the main thing behind our rise and our total neglect for this is one of the main reasons for our decline. Clearly, as suspected, nothing had been learnt after that relegation whatsoever. Short-term signings, both bad value.

 

Well, if nothing else it's another win without him. I hated this idea we were 'desperate' for him. That sort of desperation is so utterly tinpot, spineless, weak. It's a step away from that shenanigans at least. He should be out the door 1st January.

This is exactly why I say the summer window under Maresca was so massively overrated. He gets such a free pass from so many. Mostly they offered on the pitch but not always value for money and importantly, not of the right mentality.

 

Coady - poor in every aspect. 

Winks - added on the pitch for a short time but awful attitude and massively overpaid on fee and wages

 

Cannon - at least we made some money on him but he didn’t really offer much. I think there’s a decent player in there though.

 

Hermansen - was a good signing obviously and we made a tidy profit. Still didn’t resolve the mentality issue in this squad though as he doesn’t seem like a winner. 
 

Fatawu - very good signing again. But still flashes of a weak mentality from him at times. 

 

Mavididi - similar. Can’t say the fee wasn’t fair and you’d assume wages were reasonable (whereas we all know Coady and Winks have been overpaid). But not the toughest mentality.

 

I just think we’d have been better using the funds available that summer on alternatives for Coady and Winks really. The others were good signings. But Winks and Coady were supposed to be the senior signings and leaders and were awful. 

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The Enzo system enabled Winks to control the pace of the game,  he continually received the ball from the keeper, defenders and was always available to for the pass back to then start the switch from right to left or vice versa. He probably touched the ball 75-100 times a game in Enzo’s system, largely playing 5-10 yard passes barely breaking lines but alongside Vestergaard the two were integral to us retaining possession and drawing out teams who set up in a low block.
 

As soon as Enzo left and we changed to anything that was higher intensity and looked to move the ball forward more efficiently then he largely becomes ineffective and his weakness are more exposed, even in the Enzo system he lacked physicality and athleticism, this was targeted more and more in the 2nd half of the season when teams would press him more and also hit us on the counter, he was a poor defensive shield, this has been magnified even more since Enzo left and this season given his clear lack of commitment has exposed his weaknesses even more this season. 
 

The energy and intensity shown by Skipp and James whilst also showing they can play with intensity and move the ball effectively and efficiently, shows Winks for what he is, a largely ineffective defensive midfielder who’s main attribute is the ability to recieve the ball from the keeper and defenders in tight positions and play little 5 and ten yard bump passes and the occasional ball that breaks the first line of the press. Besides that he offers little more to us at this stage as he has clearly checked out. 

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10 minutes ago, LCFCJohn said:

This is exactly why I say the summer window under Maresca was so massively overrated. He gets such a free pass from so many. Mostly they offered on the pitch but not always value for money and importantly, not of the right mentality.

 

Coady - poor in every aspect. 

Winks - added on the pitch for a short time but awful attitude and massively overpaid on fee and wages

 

Cannon - at least we made some money on him but he didn’t really offer much. I think there’s a decent player in there though.

 

Hermansen - was a good signing obviously and we made a tidy profit. Still didn’t resolve the mentality issue in this squad though as he doesn’t seem like a winner. 
 

Fatawu - very good signing again. But still flashes of a weak mentality from him at times. 

 

Mavididi - similar. Can’t say the fee wasn’t fair and you’d assume wages were reasonable (whereas we all know Coady and Winks have been overpaid). But not the toughest mentality.

 

I just think we’d have been better using the funds available that summer on alternatives for Coady and Winks really. The others were good signings. But Winks and Coady were supposed to be the senior signings and leaders and were awful. 

50% of signings successful then, that’s actually a very good window.

 

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